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_Believe;4251803]Some things to clarify. Cardinal Hoyos has already prayed the Gregorian Rite, as he calls it. He did so at Westminister Cathedral earlier this year. Not a single Bishop was there in support.
Undetered, he said afterwords, that it is the Pope’s wish that **every parish in the UK would offer the EF. ** Since then, no fewer than 60 priests are training to pray the EF there.
So, there seems a contradiction. He says what he said then, and now he says this. I believe it ties in with the quote from BXVI in France recently, where he said the MP was an act of tolerance.
Before you decide what you believe, I suggest examining the word “tolerance”.
"Toleration and tolerance are terms used in social, cultural and religious contexts to describe attitudes and practices that **prohibit discrimination against those practices or group memberships that may be disapproved of by those in the majority. ** Tolerance prohibits discrimination & though Pope Benedict has publicly said that he has made an act of tolerance…an act to prohibit discrimination against those who believe that the Novus Ordo is a "manufactured process, a fabrication, a banal on-the-spot product”.
Conversely, ‘intolerance’ may be used to refer to the discriminatory practices sought to be prohibited.
In my experience, liberal Catholics are very discriminatory people.
I could site a score of **definite **reasons for considering the Tridentine Mass as more representative of the whole of Catholicism & the liberals here would simply give an answer based on emotion. In this thread, I’ve only been given one reason for preferring the Novus Ordo & that was that it’s said in the vernacular. IMO., the fact that this Mass is easier is not a good enough reason to choose a Liturgy…but, at least, it’s a reason.
Frankly, I think they are tired of the arrogance displayed by some who demand to call the shots now. Emboldened by their interpretation of the MP, these people want all of their concerns regarding the crisis, according to their definition of “the crisis”, dealt with in one decisive “house cleaning”.
Frankly, I think that the Cardinal is just tired! He is 80 years old & currently serves as President of the Pontifical Commission Ecclesia Dei. Ecclesia Dei is totally alive with action & the Cardinal is traveling extensively. Is it any surprise that he is out of patience with the** few** Trads who are complaining, the Bishops who are doing all they can to discriminate against the wishes of Traditional Catholics??
So yes, I can understand Cardinal Hoyos saying what he has said. These** bitter** laity and **some of their clergy **are **making unrealistic and imprudent demands **which indeed seem to fuel further division, all the while remaining **blind **to our H.F’s efforts to acknowledge some of their valid concerns
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Personally, I don’t think you understand Cardinal Hoyos at all.
The Catholic Herald: So would the Pope like to see many ordinary parishes making provision for the Gregorian Rite?
Cardinal Hoyos: All the parishes. Not many – **all **the parishes, because this is a gift of God. He offers these riches, and it is very important for new generations to know the past of the Church. This kind of worship is so noble, so beautiful – the deepest theologians’ way to express our faith. The worship, the music, the architecture, the painting, makes a whole that is a treasure. The Holy Father is willing to offer to all the people this possibility, not only for the few groups who demand it but so that everybody knows this way of celebrating the Eucharist in the Catholic Church.
youngcatholicadults-latestnews.blogspot.com/2008/06/cardinal-hoyos-pope-wan
Cardinal Hoyos finishes by saying that because diocesan bishops are still reluctant to implement the Pope’s request for generous permissions for the traditional rite, Rome is preparing a new ‘juridical guarantee’ of the rights of the traditionalist faithful.
- In an interview with the Italian newspaper, Il Giornale, published 31 May, Cardinal Hoyos confirms that traditionalists are not to be seen as ‘second class’ citizens in the Church.
latin-mass-society.org/2004/hoyospraise.html
A homily preached by Cardinal Hoyos at Westminster on the feast of St. Basil:
Thus it seems particularly appropriate for us to celebrate his memory today in this cathedral, so evocative of Byzantium, with the Pontifical Mass in the extraordinary form of the Roman Rite for Saint Basil is a saint who transcends any narrow “provincialism” and belongs to the entire Church.
The Holy Father tells us that Saint Basil the Great was also “a wise ‘liturgical reformer’”, a bishop who was ready to adapt so that his flock could better integrate the liturgy into their lives
timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article4159619.ece
Their clergy have in essence set up a parallel magisterium, and are, in truth, standing just this side of formal schism
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This remark puts you closer to schism than any remark I’ve heard from “Their” clergy. In fact, should you by an off chance read these links, you’ll see that Romes big problem comes from liberal Bishops.
