Cardinal suspends Pfleger: 'You are not able to pastor a Catholic parish'

[catharina]

More from Cardinal George

from the CBS local news in Chicago:

chicago.cbslocal.com/2011/04/30/st-sabina-services-proceed-without-pfleger-cardinal-defends-priests-suspension/

St. Sabina Services Proceed Without Pfleger; Cardinal Defends Priest’s Suspension
April 30, 2011 9:46 PM

" … In Rome, meanwhile, George was eager to give his side of the story to CBS 2 Chief Correspondent Jay Levine as the Cardinal attended this weekend’s ceremonies to beatify late Pope John Paul II.

Before all the escalating rhetoric, Pfleger might have been able to stay at St. Sabina, the Cardinal said. He said church officials could have determined that the priest’s abilities were best used there on a permanent basis.

“If it became clear that there was no place where his talents could be exercised, except in that milieu, where he’s been effective for so long, well, then, that would be a good move,” George told Levine.

George said publicly releasing his suspension letter to Pfleger was meant to clear up any confusion about why he had taken action.

A Pfleger letter to Cardinal dated March 19 was distributed to St. Sabina parishioners Saturday. In it, the priest proposed putting Leo High School under the wing of St. Sabina but with someone else in charge of the school.

The Cardinal said he hopes to have future discussions with Pfleger. On Friday, he said technically Pfleger is still pastor of St. Sabina.

The Saturday service at St. Sabina’s usually has about 40 attendees. This weekend, more than 100 people showed up, with many sitting in an overflow area. …"

 

[Tigg]

Sometimes the “leaders” in this world are “blind” to the concerns of the poor. Ever hear of Catholic Social Justice Teachings? People are starving to death everyday…

Here is the portion from the article in the OP that I was referring to:

After the protest, Glover (head of the parish council) said he would likely remain in the parish even if Pfleger leaves, as long as Pfleger is treated with respect and Magwaza is allowed to take over, but he said he would probably leave the parish and perhaps the church if Pfleger left and Magwaza was not allowed to become pastor.

He might leave the Catholic Church if the situation is not resolved to his liking? Wow…that is just amazing! And the fact that anyone could defend it.

 

[catharina]

Here is the portion from the article in the OP that I was referring to:

He might leave the Catholic Church if the situation is not resolved to his liking? Wow…that is just amazing! And the fact that anyone could defend it.

Agree.

 

[hxcCatholic413]

Here is the portion from the article in the OP that I was referring to:

He might leave the Catholic Church if the situation is not resolved to his liking? Wow…that is just amazing! And the fact that anyone could defend it.

Fr. Pfleger definitely worded that wrong, but I feel he has a better sense at life than what most of his critics say

NEWSFLASH: life isn’t black and white!

God Bless Fr. Pfleger!

 

[CatholicFireman]

I believe the Cardinal probably made the right decision in this case, but I find the celebration and triumphalism to be offensive and out of place. I see that often on this site – people cheering and clapping when liberal priests are removed from their positions, while the reaction when priests are censured for being more conservative than the Vatican or God forbid for sexual improprieties is much more muted and solemn. Surely we should be sorrowful when any priest chooses to separate himself from the Catholic faith, rather than seeing this as some sort of victory for the church.

It is even more sorrowful when a priest “seperates” himself from from the Catholic faith through his liberal views which are against church teachings and his defiance of his Cardinal with the implied approval of his parish and other Catholics.

Something to chew on (without the “wooohooo”).

NEWSFLASH: I do believe the Magisterium is black and white!

God Bless those who stand up for the faith!

I will, however, pray for Fr. Pfleger.

 

[laszlo]

In this forums is is accepted that moderators censure people breaking the rules.

Either in this case and in the case of the Australian bishop I wonder how can one seriously think that the bishop or pope has less rights over their subjects than a moderator of a forum?

 

[CatholicFireman]

In this forums is is accepted that moderators censure people breaking the rules.

Either in this case and in the case of the Australian bishop I wonder how can one seriously think that the bishop or pope has less rights over their subjects than a moderator of a forum?

Please explain?

 

[estesbob]

Fr. Pfleger definitely worded that wrong, but I feel he has a better sense at life than what most of his critics say

NEWSFLASH: life isn’t black and white!

God Bless Fr. Pfleger!

Actaully where it comes to Church Dogam and doctrine it is.

 

[NewEnglandPriest]

Actaully where it comes to Church Dogam and doctrine it is.

Indeed but dogma isn’t the issue at play here, obedience is.

 

[hxcCatholic413]

It is even more sorrowful when a priest “seperates” himself from from the Catholic faith through his liberal views which are against church teachings and his defiance of his Cardinal with the implied approval of his parish and other Catholics.

Something to chew on (without the “wooohooo”).

NEWSFLASH: I do believe the Magisterium is black and white!

God Bless those who stand up for the faith!

I will, however, pray for Fr. Pfleger.

LIBERAL Views??? Helping the poor is Liberal? Wow Jesus was a hardcore liberal than…

 

[hxcCatholic413]

Actaully where it comes to Church Dogam and doctrine it is.

not so…doesn’t the Church allow married Anglicans who convert to Roman Catholicism to become priests? That definitely isn’t black and white

 

[Corki]

LIBERAL Views??? Helping the poor is Liberal? Wow Jesus was a hardcore liberal than…

As the Cardinal pointed out in his letter, it wasn’t Fathers work with the poor that was in question. The liberal views that are against Church teaching seem to be Father’s disagreement regarding the duty of a priest to obey his Ordinary and his support for women’s ordination.

 

[catharina]

As the Cardinal pointed out in his letter, it wasn’t Fathers work with the poor that was in question. The liberal views that are against Church teaching seem to be Father’s disagreement regarding the duty of a priest to obey his Ordinary and his support for women’s ordination.

Yep.

 

[CatholicFireman]

As the Cardinal pointed out in his letter, it wasn’t Fathers work with the poor that was in question. The liberal views that are against Church teaching seem to be Father’s disagreement regarding the duty of a priest to obey his Ordinary and his support for women’s ordination.

As Catharina said, “Yep”.

LIBERAL Views??? Helping the poor is Liberal? Wow Jesus was a hardcore liberal than…

We are not talking about Our Lord. We are talking about Fr. Pfleger. Please stay on topic.

 

[hxcCatholic413]

As the Cardinal pointed out in his letter, it wasn’t Fathers work with the poor that was in question. The liberal views that are against Church teaching seem to be Father’s disagreement regarding the duty of a priest to obey his Ordinary and his support for women’s ordination.

doesn’t sound like he did anything wrong

 

[NewEnglandPriest]

The liberal views that are against Church teaching seem to be Father’s disagreement regarding the duty of a priest to obey his Ordinary

Indeed that was the issue but I’d hardly call it a “liberal” view since there’s been many self-proclaimed conservatives that have refused obedience as well…

and his support for women’s ordination.

IIRC, that was never mentioned in the Cardinal’s letter.

 

[Monica02]

I looked around their website, and I’m having a hard time finding their pro-life ministry. Can anyone give us a link to it?

You are right about no indication of it being Catholic. It’s a faith community. No thank you.

Pfleger does need prayer, but no thank you to those that advise no criticism. He’s damaging the Church and the Faith. Someone needs to speak up.

January 23, 2007
Priest pictured with NOW activist

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By Matt C. Abbott

A reader has alerted me to an online photo showing Chicago priest-activist Father Michael Pfleger, who has publicly fawned over pro-abortion U.S. Sen. Barack Obama, in a friendly embrace with National Organization for Women member (and pro-abortion activist) Catherine Caporusso.

The (cropped) photo, which can be seen at the end of this column and is from the codepink4peace.org Web site, was taken at a Chicago rally for awareness of the genocide occurring in Darfur.

The reader said that while there is nothing wrong with Father Pfleger showing concern for the plight of those in Darfur, “one would think that he could have found a less active pro-abort to buddy up with. Are there no pro-life Darfur activists?”

The reader, a pro-life advocate, said the following regarding Caporusso:

“I have seen her several times ‘escorting’ women into the abortion facility. She and her people also try to stop us from distributing literature. She is a true pro-abort activist.”

NOW is the organization that sued veteran pro-life activist Joe Scheidler under the RICO statute — a case which ended up in the U.S. Supreme Court on three occasions.

http://www.renewamerica.com/images/columns/070123abbott.jpg

 

[catharina]

January 23, 2007
Priest pictured with NOW activist

   http://www.renewamerica.com/images/print_email_share.gif

By Matt C. Abbott

A reader has alerted me to an online photo showing Chicago priest-activist Father Michael Pfleger, who has publicly fawned over pro-abortion U.S. Sen. Barack Obama, in a friendly embrace with National Organization for Women member (and pro-abortion activist) Catherine Caporusso.

The (cropped) photo, which can be seen at the end of this column and is from the codepink4peace.org Web site, was taken at a Chicago rally for awareness of the genocide occurring in Darfur.

The reader said that while there is nothing wrong with Father Pfleger showing concern for the plight of those in Darfur, “one would think that he could have found a less active pro-abort to buddy up with. Are there no pro-life Darfur activists?”

The reader, a pro-life advocate, said the following regarding Caporusso:

“I have seen her several times ‘escorting’ women into the abortion facility. She and her people also try to stop us from distributing literature. She is a true pro-abort activist.”

NOW is the organization that sued veteran pro-life activist Joe Scheidler under the RICO statute — a case which ended up in the U.S. Supreme Court on three occasions.

http://www.renewamerica.com/images/columns/070123abbott.jpg

Completely irrelevant, IMO.
Jesus too was seen in public with sinners. Often.

It is Jesus Who warns us: “Let he who is without sin, throw the first stone.”

The issue in place re Fr. Pfleger is his stated/planned disobedience to his bishop.
Let’s not make this thread a free-for-all … or it will be closed.

 

[PaulinVA]

I really don’t see the need for anyone to continue on with this thread.

Read through the news articles about the cardinal and the priest, about the parish and the diocese, and then draw your own conclusions.

If this thread is about disobedience only, then we are certainly beating a dead horse.

 

[Beau_Ouiville]

I really don’t see the need for anyone to continue on with this thread.

Read through the news articles about the cardinal and the priest, about the parish and the diocese, and then draw your own conclusions.

If this thread is about disobedience only, then we are certainly beating a dead horse.

Folks like to score debating points about vestments and music. Particularly if they think the parish is ‘liberal’.