Carm.org claims Catholics are not Christian

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estesbob said:
So what if he had a different opinion.? So what if he had a Roman Catholic funeral Do you think a Roman Catholic for funrral is an affirmation of everything a person has done in their life
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The allegation was that he was excommunicated. Generally, if a Roman Catholic priest is officially excommunicated, would he be given a Roman Catholic funeral?
 
Tomdstone said:
The allegation was that he was excommunicated. Generally, if a Roman Catholic priest is officially excommunicated, would he be given a Roman Catholic funeral?
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If his family wants it, yes. I had a teacher in College who was murdered; he was involved in something illegal - he was definitely not in good standing with the Church - he’d been practicing some form of Buddhism for years - but he had a Catholic funeral at the parish nearest to the spot where he died because his family wanted it.
 
estesbob said:
If he as back in good standing, yes
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I see the evidence that he was the strongest advocate of legal abortions in the US Congress. I don’t see the evidence that he was ever officially excommunicated.
 
Tomdstone said:
I see the evidence that he was the strongest advocate of legal abortions in the US Congress. I don’t see the evidence that he was ever officially excommunicated.
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What does this possibly have to do with the title of this thread?
Move on or post a new thread.

Mary.
 
Although I’m late to this thread, I’d still like to add something. There are bullies in every facet of life and that includes the area of spirituality. If the general opinion here [on Catholic Answers] accurately describes the community of carm.org, you’d be better off ignoring carm.org. The one thing that bullies hate is a lack of attention. They cannot stand it when you show that they haven’t gotten under your skin.

I get flak from the secular population for being a muslim. From the muslims, I get it for being a sufi. I get a double dose. We are profound beings and one of the greatest choices we can make is to choose not to care. Choose to walk away even while they hurl insults at you. Know what you are and be comfortable with it and know that your enemies will be held accountable for their bullying on Judgment Day.
 
Tomdstone said:
I see the evidence that he was the strongest advocate of legal abortions in the US Congress. I don’t see the evidence that he was ever officially excommunicated.
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Promoting or procuring abortion takes an automatic excommunication; nothing official is required.

And as the lady said, let’s get back on topic.
 
jmcrae said:
Promoting or procuring abortion takes an automatic excommunication; nothing official is required.

And as the lady said, let’s get back on topic.
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excommunication latae sententiae, if appropriate.

Now, to the topic.
 
heart4home said:
Not all but many of the people who spend time on the CARM Roman Catholic Forums have left the Catholic Church.
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Many who have left The Church were sacramentalized, but not catechized. Neither did they ever have a personal relationship with Christ as Catholic’s are called to do.

So after they leave they become catechized in error, and believe that they have found something new, unheard of their Catholic faith:
  • That we are saved by Grace
  • That our salvation is from Christ alone
Then they believe things unheard of in Christianity for the first 1,500 years:
  • That baptism is only symbolic of one’s faith
  • That baptism should be delayed to the age of reason
  • That the Eucharistic meal is symbolic only…truly not the Resurrected body and blood of Christ.
  • That there are only 66 books in the bible
When one ask’s them for citations from the early Church on the belief’s above before the year 1,500, answers get vague quickly. When one cites the early Church belief’s in support of the Catholic position on all these subjects, the early writings are dismissed as forgeries (all of what St. Ignatius of Antioch said was written several hundred years later).

Your right though, ex-Catholic’s and others on CARM included tend toward frustration. The intellect get’s clouded and the will doesn’t move to find the truth.
 
simspt said:
the same way i negotiate with my 1 year old, very patiently…knowing in advance not to expect too much…
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You’re right. There is an intellectual and spiritual “dwarfing” that occurs when one associates with these types of groups.
 
Porknpie said:
Many who have left The Church were sacramentalized, but not catechized. Neither did they ever have a personal relationship with Christ as Catholic’s are called to do.

So after they leave they become catechized in error, and believe that they have found something new, unheard of their Catholic faith:
  • That we are saved by Grace
  • That our salvation is from Christ alone
Then they believe things unheard of in Christianity for the first 1,500 years:
  • That baptism is only symbolic of one’s faith
  • That baptism should be delayed to the age of reason
  • That the Eucharistic meal is symbolic only…truly not the Resurrected body and blood of Christ.
  • That there are only 66 books in the bible
When one ask’s them for citations from the early Church on the belief’s above before the year 1,500, answers get vague quickly. When one cites the early Church belief’s in support of the Catholic position on all these subjects, the early writings are dismissed as forgeries (all of what St. Ignatius of Antioch said was written several hundred years later).

Your right though, ex-Catholic’s and others on CARM included tend toward frustration. The intellect get’s clouded and the will doesn’t move to find the truth.
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Amen!
 
I wouldn’t waste your time visiting that horrible site. I did once and was like walking into hell. They are rude and are a waste of time. Prayer is a better option for them than listening to their insults (we are from the church of satan and we pray to him)
 
Amen again I say to you…

Drac is right as well…after I was suspended, and didn’t really have any intention of staying on there anyway…never went back.

Likewise they cannot define why they of all Protestant groups is the true Christianity as well.
 
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