Cartoons are bad but bombs are Ok?

[inJESUS]

Hello dear, muslim.

You are a fool (sorry),

don’t worry , but allow me to say you are either fooled by muslims or a liar coz these things ARE in the quran…go search before insulting bro.

these things are not taught in the Qur’an, actually it does address Christains and Jews and says that they are closer to them and that we should live peacefully together

so mohammad is contradicting himself.

. It is biases and misleadings that lead to such things. We have always been an agreser to the Muslims, they have never had a reason to like us, because of our actions. We need to stick out our arms to them not condemn and curse them like you like to do

sure bro sure…go read the quran.

 

[BryPGuy89]

inJESUS:

no please do not be upset , IT’S NOT about muslims but islam (as i always say)…mohammad is an anti-Christ & his religion does not come from the Biblical God even thou he claims otherwise…even if he cried 3 million times that it is from God, his behavior and his teachings reply : LIAR.

They still venerate Jesus and His teachings, but they see Him in a different light then Christians. The Church has said time and again that they do follow the same God of Abraham as us. What are these big issues that make them so evil in your eyes, what teachings are so contradictory to Christianity that you would attack them verbally? (other than Jesus’ divinty) Please.

 

[BryPGuy89]

inJESUS:

the jews did not accept Jesus…they did not accept him like mohammad yet twisted his teachings and lied about him or about his crucifixion…am talking about what came “after” Jesus.
they can claim whatever they want.

what are you talking about? i didnt understand your sentence.

Did mohammad contradict Jesus’ teachings? of course…Moses’ teachings? as well.

enlighten me

They at least accept Jesus as a prophet, but then thinking Him as nothing right? Besides His divinity what has been twisted around, expecially about his crucification?

It isn’t just a claim that they follow the same God of Abraham, it is a Church accepted fact!

I mean that Muslims follow most of the sam e guidelines as Christians but have some points that are very different, more similar then not.

I still want to know what you think they teach that contradicts Jesus’ and Moses’ teachings and practices.

 

[inJESUS]

They still venerate Jesus and His teachings, but they see Him in a different light then Christians.

they venerate Isa but insult Jesus by denying what he did and said…if you call this veneration, it’s because you are muslim

The Church has said time and again that they do follow the same God of Abraham as us. What are these big issues that make them so evil in your eyes,

i did not say muslims are evil .

what teachings are so contradictory to Christianity that you would attack them verbally? (other than Jesus’ divinty) Please.

other than Jesus’ divinity? Jesus’ teachings!!

 

[BryPGuy89]

inJESUS:

the jews did NOT come after Jesus and insulted his crucifixion…

otherwie they’d be Christians

coz am interested in someone who claimed the same role of biblical prophets yet lied and opposed and called good what they called bad…
well at least Luther did not deny Jesus’ crucifixion, resurrection or divinity…and i don’t think his life resembles that of mohammad…as far as i know he did not marry a dozen wife of which one is 9 years, and did not have slaves nor killed unbelievers nor allowed polygamy or tajlil ecc…that is, any one that denies Jesus’ divinity, death and resurrection is a false prophet and Anti-Christ, be it whomever he is.

The Jews were and are still around after Jesus they just decided to completely ignore Him after his crucification.
I’m still waiting for you to tell me what beleifs are so contrary to Christian beleifs.
For one Luther couldn’t own slaves he was a priest and he couldn’t marry, until his break where he broke his vowes with God and married another who broke her vowes with God. He encited the killings of hundreds of thousands of protestant peasants and lead to the biggest seperation from the Church in history, leading millions down the wrong path. He may not be the same as Mohammed, but he still has his negatives.
Most of the world denies Jesus resurection and what not, what makes the Muslims and the faith of Islam so much worse then the 4 billion who completely deny God in general?

 

[BryPGuy89]

Writer:

Doesn’t the Koran teach of the need to kill the infidels, aka anyone who is not a Muslim? If so, isn’t there a degree of hypocrisy in your crying fowl over the issue you raised?

Infidels don’t include Christians and Jews though, just pagans, which God himself started with the Jews.

 

[inJESUS]

1. They do **blaspheme ** who say: “(Allah) is Christ the son of Mary.” But said Christ: “O Children of Israel! worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord.” Whoever joins other gods with Allah,- Allah will forbid him the garden, and the Fire will be his abode. There will for **the unjust ** be no one to help.

Not that am asking for an apology coz i don’t want it, but i assume it is fair to at least admit that you either were ignorant on this matter or that you lied.

 

[inJESUS]

BryPGuy89:

Infidels don’t include Christians and Jews though, just pagans, which God himself started with the Jews.

infidels=kuffar=unbelievers=blasphemers = Christians who believe Jesus is the Son of God…would you stop it now please?

 

[BryPGuy89]

inJESUS:

muslims say all the ayas about killing are to be read in context…donno about : fight those who do not believe in allah …donno if they disregard it as well from the last message of Allah…

What killings? The terrorist attacks? Those are not of the Islamic faith and their religious leaders don’t condone them.
Christians had the crusades and inquisitions, not including other times we put down heretics and pagan faiths. Plus the jews were founded on killing pagans, the way has to be accessable and if there are millions of sinners in your way then you might not be able to get around them . It is like the reason we have jails to get rid of people who are to dangerous and threatening ti other’s lives that they must be gotten rid of outside of the living populous. To an extent it is necessary to kill or drive out non-beleivers near you, or else you get a world like ours today with murder and sex being the norm and porn and sin are accepted by the majority. Now the beleivers of God have to struggle to keep themselves clean.

 

[inJESUS]

I am a Catholic Christian and follow the teachings of the Church.

yea ok.

I’m sorry you haven’t found Christ, but I hope you do **soon **

! elaboration please? exposing a false teaching means you don’t know Jesus?

Mohammed was but a man and man is flawed.

no, he was a self-proclaimed prophet who insulted Jesus and created a new religion that mislead millions…that is NOT an ordinary man but a big plan by satan.

I still ask why do you target them when the Jews never followed Jesus.

i already explained this to you so i won’t repeat it…

Protestants still are wide and vary, some are completely heretical following false prophets and doing what they call “God’s will”. You target one group out of some bias that is upsetting

free-will…am interested in islam…other heretics are dealt with with other people who are interested in them.

 

[BryPGuy89]

inJESUS:

you fear for my soul ? why so? if i hate a false teaching? should i love false teachings ?

it doesnt matter.

no it is not coz we are talking about islam here.
satan believes in God as well…but his aim is to hinder your salvation by fooling you about Jesus.

yes they are good people…virtually they worship God of Abraham but realistically no,it’s like calling 2 different dishes with the same name just to promote them.

these people did not insult Jesus 600 years AFTER Jesus came…

coz we are talking about islam here.

Again, should i love and tolerate false teachings? did Peter, Paul or Jesus tolerate hypocrisy or false teachings?were they PC ?

Hate is a sin. You should share and teach lovingly to show the wrong the right path.

Satan knows of God, so he must beleive in Him.

Islam an dChristianity are almost identical excluding primarily the bleif in Jesus’s divinty.

Jews continue to “insult” Jesus to this day ever since his arrival. Protestants broke the will of God and have come to deny many things about his teachings they came 1600 years after Him.

As for tolerance Yes Jesus and the Saints tolerated hypocrisy and false teachings! Jesus talked people away from their wrongness, but didn’t condemn anyone and say that they are evil because of it.

 

[inJESUS]

BryPGuy89:

What killings? The terrorist attacks? Those are not of the Islamic faith and their religious leaders don’t condone them.
Christians had the crusades and inquisitions, not including other times we put down heretics and pagan faiths. Plus the jews were founded on killing pagans, the way has to be accessable and if there are millions of sinners in your way then you might not be able to get around them . It is like the reason we have jails to get rid of people who are to dangerous and threatening ti other’s lives that they must be gotten rid of outside of the living populous. To an extent it is necessary to kill or drive out non-beleivers near you, or else you get a world like ours today with murder and sex being the norm and porn and sin are accepted by the majority. Now the beleivers of God have to struggle to keep themselves clean.

show your true colours, muslim bro…is killing forbidden to Christians? do not talk to me about what people do…are we asked to kill? find me one commandmant in quran saying : you shall not killl…on the other hand, you find hundred of killing words…am not saying that muslims SHOULD kill for any reason, but is killing allowed? you bet…

 

[inJESUS]

Hate is a sin. You should share and teach lovingly to show the wrong the right path.

how many times should i repeat that i DO NOT HATE MUSLIMS!!! i hate islam, not muslims…i hate it coz it deprives people from the truth about Jesus.

Satan knows of God, so he must beleive in Him.

yes satan believes in God and he wants people in hell thats why he fools people about their salvation.

Islam an dChristianity are almost identical excluding primarily the bleif in Jesus’s divinty.

then lets talk about mohammad teaching vs Jesus teaching shall we? go ahead.

Jews continue to “insult” Jesus to this day ever since his arrival. Protestants broke the will of God and have come to deny many things about his teachings they came 1600 years after Him.

you insult Jesus when you deny his death for you and when you consider him like mohammad.

As for tolerance Yes Jesus and the Saints tolerated hypocrisy and false teachings!

Jesus talked people away from their wrongness, but didn’t condemn anyone and say that they are evil because of it. yea sure…as if you read the Bible…How many times Jesus, Paul, Peter ., John and others rebuked false teachers and called them Anti-Christ or liars or hypocrtits? yea sure,they were pc just like you…God is pc.

 

[inJESUS]

The Jews were and are still around after Jesus they just decided to completely ignore Him after his crucification.

the jews rejected the idea that Jesus is the Messiah…hence they rejected everything about him but did not deny his crucifixion…mohammad on the other hand came 600 years later, claimed Jesus is the messiah yet lied about his true nature or teachings, and went even to deny his death.

I’m still waiting for you to tell me what beleifs are so contrary to Christian beleifs.

oh i see:

Did Jesus allow killing for God? mohammad did
Did Jesus allow polygamy?mohammad did
Did Jesus allow divorce except for adultry? mohammad did
Did Jesus allow that a woman must go marry another man to be able to return to her first husband?mohammad did
Did Jesus allow sex with slaves?mohammad did
Did Jesus teach that you can have sex with married women provided you take them as captives?mohammad did
Did Jesus teach eye for eye? mohammad did
Did Jesus teach about sex/marriage in heaven with houri?mohammad did…enough for now.

For one Luther couldn’t own slaves he was a priest and he couldn’t marry, until his break where he broke his vowes with God and married another who broke her vowes with God. He encited the killings of hundreds of thousands of protestant peasants and lead to the biggest seperation from the Church in history, leading millions down the wrong path. He may not be the same as Mohammed, but he still has his negatives.

who on earth cares about Luther? we are talking Jesus/mohammad.

Most of the world denies Jesus resurection and what not, what makes the Muslims and the faith of Islam so much worse then the 4 billion who completely deny God in general?

am interested in islam.

 

[inJESUS]

They at least accept Jesus as a prophet, but then thinking Him as nothing right? Besides His divinity what has been twisted around, expecially about his crucification?

well mohammad confused the earth out of them coz he simply failed, after 23 years of “revelation”, to state a simple paragraph to explain what on earth happened to one of his “exalted” prophets instead of an absurd mumbo-jumbo that the greatest Holiwood director cannot make sense out of it…what is understood is that Allah performed the biggest trick on humanity for truly, Allah is the biggest deceiver.

I still want to know what you think they teach that contradicts Jesus’ and Moses’ teachings and practices.

i already taked about Jesus…Moses? well there is a thread about this.

 

[Cyber_Knight]

Crikey… inJESUS, are you arguing with a muslim? LOL… its getting more and more about taqiyya Muslims here

 

[fin]

just a thought about the 70 virgins, what about the ladies, aren’t THEy going to get them too?

Peace to everyone!

 

[Cyber_Knight]

fin:

just a thought about the 70 virgins, what about the ladies, aren’t THEy going to get them too?

Peace to everyone!

I believe women also got 72 male virgins, but well… since they are deficient in intelligence so, male would be dominant residence in heaven. praise allah!!

 

[fin]

really, women got 72 male virgins??..hmmmm, that is something…that is, if there WOULD be 72 male virgins left…
Peace!

 

[Cyber_Knight]

really, women got 72 male virgins??..hmmmm, that is something…that is, if there WOULD be 72 male virgins left…
Peace!

oh well… before we heard from muslims, let me represent them here : those stories about 72 virgins are not to be taken literally. thats it.