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Usbek_de_Perse
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Alveolate,pardon me if i sound a little presumptuous… but all these wrangling over the nitty-gritty of cloths - isn’t it a little too legalistic and fixated on forms?
amidst the long replies i quickly scanned, i don’t think i saw any explications of the meanings and purposes of the varied vestments. could i trouble someone to highlight the significances? especially the difference between a cassock and an alb - both in terms of the form (i could never really tell them apart at first glance) and their respective significance. i’ve heard that the stole represents the wisdom and knowledge imparted to the priests as part of their clerical office/ordination. (i don’t think this is differentiated between Christian traditions - but i might be mistaken!)
tucked or untucked - what’s the implication?
crossed or uncrossed - affects the eyes or affects the mind?
cassock and/or alb - a matter of deep, Christocentric tradition or just distracting judgemental legalism?
if the wording is a little harsh, i apologise. i do not mean any offense… but i can’t hold back a sense of incredulity about concerns which do not seem to reach beneath the surface!
You are entirely correct. It is all about relatively minor issues, but sometimes, especially for those of us who don them, these are of more than passing interest. Not everything has to be sullenly serious, don’t you know!
I belong to several Yahoo! groups, including Academic Dress, Ecclevest, and Court Dress. Academic Dress now has about 1,000 members and all they talk about all day long and in multiple messages is gowns and hoods. Ecclevest started mainly because Anglican members talked alot about how to wear academic hoods over surplices in choir dress. It advanced onto most issues of vesting in Western Christendom, including some discussion of John Wesley’s preaching gown. Court Dress (not law courts but royal courts) gets little traffic. One other group, Anglican Music, Liturgy and Controversy also exists because members were talking about things outside the sphere of ecclesiastical vestments. You are welcome to search these out.
The Academic Dress group, the mother of all the others, was started by an English RC brother.