Catechesis and Evangelism in your parishes?

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Maybe get each Confirmation candidate a copy of the Catechism of the Catholic Church? We got Bibles in CCD, but I wish I could’ve gotten a copy of the catechism. It’s best to have all that in one book that I can put on the shelf of coffee table than use all the leaflets and booklets that get mixed up and lost, just like the manner our faith was presented in them.
 
Matt16_18 said:
* What are your parishes doing about Adult Catechesis?*

In our parish, nothing.

At St. Columbkille parish in Omaha. We have an awsome adult formation group called DFACTS (Dialoge and Feast Abundantly on Catholic Theology and Scripture). The group has dynamic leadership (especially in our priest), and there’s a lot of preparation from both our priest and core team members, but what they bring to the table each month is delicious.
They focus on one topic for each meeting, such as the Papacy, a particular sacrament, or a Marian doctrine. They will also “tease out” the upcoming Sunday mass readings, and how they apply to the topic for that evening. It’s very moving to hear those scripture readings again when Sunday comes around…reflecting on everything that was shared that previous friday night.
No one walks away hungry on DFACT’s friday nights, moreover no body wants to leave when the meeting is suppose to end.
If your parish doesn’t have something like this, then it would be worth it to seek it out in another parish. Or, if you have the time to do it well, find others in your own parish who want to do it with you. The format would be up to you.
 
St. Benedicts, Richmond, Virginia (the other diocese in Virginia)…
Thursday night after the 5:30 pm Mass - Catechism Class, about 15 regular members - Class instructor, Fr. Kauffmann.

THursday morning Bible Study Class - about 10 regular members.

Sunday morning between the 8:30 am and 11 am Mass - a bible study - Class instructor - 10 to 15 members, Fr. Kauffmann and often lay members.

Sunday afternoon speaker series at 3 pm. Speakers, both from in town and out of town. - 25 to 50 participants in attendance.

Just getting started - Catholic For A Reason group - using the book, Catholic for a Reason and the bible…53 people signed up for this. Facilitator is a lay member of the Church.

Sunday bulletin contains inserts of articles Father feels may be helpful and interesting in our faith journey.

Homilies subjects include current conditions of the world today and references are provided on all outside documentation used - this provides us all with additional reading material if we so desire…

Needless to say; our family is enjoying every bit of this…

C.
 
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Personally I would see more value in this sort of “outreach” than in the various ministries (youth, young adult, etc.) that most parishes in this area have - sponsoring feel-good activities like movies and mini-golf but not really doing anything of value.
Melman, I see why you are suspended http://forums.catholic-questions.org/images/icons/icon13.gif

The youth ministries do have catechesis, and they do “good works” and the youth and young adults are the Church too.

Besides this should not be an either/or option.

Why don’t you try to feel good yourself?
 
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misterman:
Greetings. This is my fourth post. :whacky:

My parish, St. Peter’s in Libertytown, MD has experienced a lot of success with an adult apologetics course. It runs for a long time - 5 or 6 months. The parish adults seem to love it. We’re in our third year of teaching the course. I’m pretty sure the head of CCD in the parish created the template for the course.

Peace.
I would REALLY like to find out more about this type of course. Can you give more information?
 
I am the adult faith formation coordinator in my parish, which is the largest in our diocese. Recently, I gathered a team of people involved in various ministries that are connected in some fashion to adult faith formation, such as RCIA, Spiritual Life committee, Young Adults, Little Rock Scripture Study (and excellent program, btw!), and Catholic Women. We worked through the leaders guide to Our Hearts Were Burning Within Us. This is the pastoral plan produced by the US bishops, that calls for adult faith formation to be placed at the forefront of all catechetical efforts (including those with children!). I would strongly recommend this type of approach: the task of developing adult catechesis is too large for one person, and by getting other parish leaders to “buy” into the vision they will see its importance.

A key finding that came out of our discussions was conversion precedes catechesis. This is even noted in the General Directory for Catechesis, #62. Until people have had a personal encounter with Jesus Christ as a living Person who loves them, our efforts will have limited effect. Only those whose hearts have been touched by the Lord will hunger to know Him better. Conversion must come first! Only those who turn to Him as their savior will learn from Him as their Lord.

Our parish is going to focus our initial efforts at deeping conversion in our parish. We will seek to bring conversion to those who do not know Jesus as Savior and Lord, and deepen the conversion of those who do.

One way to go about this is to develop faith-sharing as a normal experience in the parish. This can be done in conjunction with the Sunday Gospel. Before any meeting in the parish, we will re-read the Gospel from the previous Sunday and spend a few moments reflecting on how this applies in our lives. It will hopefully help people reflect on how the Gospel ties into their daily lives and concerns. Hopefully, in this way, people will come to a greater realization of the love of Jesus.

Another approach we plan to take is to develop a mini-retreat, like Search or Cursillo, but held at the parish. It might start on Friday night with dinner and Stations, and conclude on Saturday afternoon - will Reconciliation available for those who wish to confess. The focus of the retreat will be on how we answer Jesus’ question: “Who do you say that I am?” We will examine some basic doctrines such as the Trinity, the Incarnation, the Atonement, and life in the Spirit (prayer and the moral life). Again, the hope is to provide people with an opportunity to really connect with their faith in a meaningful way.

Sorry to ramble, but I hope this helps! God bless each of you for your faithfulness, and your desire to bring others to know the Lord!
 
Our parish seems to be doing very little. Just going with the flow.
 
I am becoming more encouraged about the possibilities! Sea Knight, I will look into using the leader’s guide for Our Hearts are Burning Within Us as a catechist development tool. How is it that you are the Adult Faith Formation Coordinator of your parish? Is this a paid position, and did it exist before you held it? Do you have special training or education for this position? We certainly do not have room in our budget for this currently, but it is something I would like to work toward.

Cotton, is the priest who leads your program a parish priest? Also, did the priests develop the homily style themselves or was this at the request of the parishoners?

I have been wondering if an apologetics group would attract people more or less than a standard instruction type program. A book discussion such as Catholic for a Reason sounds like a creative idea. I would love to hear how it works out.

I really appreciate this discussion.

Ellen
 
At our Parish, the CRHP program is a big thing. It is a renewal program that brings groups of people closer together and lights a fire within them to go out and do the Lord’s work. I have noticed other people mention renewal programs on these forums and how beneficial they can be for the parishes.

The thing about renewal programs is that they don’t really catechize the participants. But they, again, light the fire within the participants to go look for ways to be catechized. I agree with the above post that mentioned how important it is for adults to be catechized. Good catechesis for adults empowers the adults to teach the young.

My parish is also looking for ideas for religious education and spiritual formation for adults. Keep the ideas coming. I am taking notes! 👍
 
Dear Ellen,
Seeing the reality of our church today, particularly regarding to the ministry of children and youth, I have the same feelings with you. I have been thinking what would be the future of our Mother Church if her sons (children and youth) seemingly are being abandoned? Yes, probably, It is only my personal feelings and fear but why the children and youth of today have more time particularly on sunday on Play Satation and VidioGame than the sunday Mass?

I think that we need more extra time to dedicate ourselves as church to the children and youth. we need to begin to evangelize from our christian’ children, youth and family…

so, dear friends, do you could you share ideas with me how to face this phenomenon?

injo
I hope this is the right forum for this thread. I have searched as thoroughly as I can, and I have not found this issue specifically addressed.

What are your parishes doing about Adult Catechesis? I mean teaching adults the faith at our stage of life and level of understanding. It seems to me that most Catholics stop increasing our understanding of our faith in childhood, and the rules and theology of that level does not seem to apply often in our adult lives. This makes us vulnerable to evangelism by other faiths or simply boredom and disillusionment, and falling away all together. Thanks to groups like Catholic Answers and the internet, there are many resources available to those of us enthusiastic to learn, but how do we reach those who have not caught this enthusiasm to grow?

Also, how are we reaching out to those who don’t know Christ, both in this country and internationally?

Ellen
 
this thread is 5 years old
why not join the current discussions on this topic instead
 
I’m on our parish council and working on this right now. Bear with me as I meander through this, I’m trying to crystallize this for the parish council. Writing this will help me get my throughts together.
Matthew 11:27 b
No one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and ***anyone to whom the Son wishes to reveal him. ***
The first thing to remember is that God (through Christ) causes spiritual growth. People DON’T cause it. Christ reveals God to people, and God uses those people to show Christ to others. It all comes from God. That is absolutely key. Without it you don’t get past square 1.

A vibrant spiritual community needs to develop an attitude of discipleship, meaning that people who are close to Christ need to commit to discipling relationships with other individuals. My personal vision is that every person should commit to a spiritual sharing relationship with at least two people – one teacher, and one student. We need to learn from those who know Christ better than we do, and teach those who don’t know Christ as well as we do.

Scattered throughout your community are people who are more spiritually mature than most. They have an array of gifts. Some are great scripturally, some are prayer warriors, some are highly contemplative, some have special gifts of discernment, some are skilled at perceiving needs in others, and some are teachers. And so on.

A parish needs to identify who those people are, and those people need to spend time together and forge a commitment to a mission of growing the spirituality of the parish. From there come your teachers.

This is important because teachers need to teach from spiritual knowledge, rather than intellectual knowledge. We all know that from our expience with regligion teachers over the years. How can I teach someone to commit to a life in the spirit if I can’t show someone how I’ve done it in my own life?

OK – if you get this far, you’ve got your spiritual army for the parish. These are the people that need to be active in teaching.

Teaching itself can come through many forms. In my experience, there is no substitute for small groups and one-on-one. I personally get far, far, FAR more from these groups than from sitting in some type of seminar, or watching a film. It’s just more valuable to sit with someone who is in the pews on Sunday just like me, and learn how that person lives their spiritual life.

We do that through CRHP, bible study groups, Moms groups, business networking groups, senior clubs, youth groups, young adult groups, etc. Not all groups in the parish, but many. My personal goal is to get members of the spiritual army into every group in the parish and develop an attitude of spiritual sharing. Ultimately all parish groups should funnel people toward exposure to the spiritual army.

Now you have spiritually strong people permeating the parish, and they are committed to growing the spirituality. They live as lights in the parish. We know from John’s gospel that people are either drawn to the light, or they run from it. Those who are drawn to the light are spiritual fish that need to be fed. At the beginning, this needs to occur in one-on-one or small group settings. Why? Because they are taking a huge leap of faith, and they should be welcomed by people who know what they’re doing.

Some fish will grow slowly. Others will be hungry fish, and will be able to develop quickly. The spiritual army will be able to discern the difference, and direct those people to where they can be helped the most. Some of the really hungry fish will ramp up and join the spiritual army, and the cycle repeats.

IMO, this type of approach is necessary because so many people remain at spiritual infancy well into adulthood. ***A spiritual infant needs to meet Christ and start to walk with Him to grow to the point of being ready for more detailed teaching. ***

IMO this type of growth doesn’t happen in seminars or film sessions – it happens in small groups. People need to be helped in their own baby steps toward God. Once they’ve truly met Christ, taken a few steps, and physically seen and experienced the fruits of the spirit through exposure to the spiritually mature in the parish, they become ready for programs. They’ll want to study the bible, the catechism, the sacraments, and the mass in detail.

Does this make sense to anyone?
 
Sir Knight, I just saw your post. Looks like we’re on the same wavelength. I didn’t use the term “conversion” but that’s exactly what I’m talking about.
 
I have done adult catechesis in our parish for many years and we got a small group, always the same members. Then our new priest had time to do that himself. But our parish is just 100 families. I am in a master catechist group in our diocese. We will be helping with an Institute of Religious Studies for CCD teachers. They don’t have to take it but it is strongly encouraged by the diocese. Most adults do not have time or care about learning more about their faith. UNLESS they have a faith experience perhaps by attending a Life in the Spirit Seminar or Koinonia or Cursillo. Something has to happen to jump start their faith, without which they are running on trying to obey the 10 commandments without much help from the Holy Spirit, the Spirit is the key, not just more teaching.
 
Whenever I’ve asked about adult classes it’s always assumed I mean RCIA. But I’d like to find a class or series of classes that touch on the fundamentals of philosophy, theology, Church history, etc. Adult-level Catholic education. I’d think a “Survey of Catholicism” text like a (good) Catholic college or high school might use, would be a good place to start. But I have yet to find such a book.

Personally I would see more value in this sort of “outreach” than in the various ministries (youth, young adult, etc.) that most parishes in this area have - sponsoring feel-good activities like movies and mini-golf but not really doing anything of value.
Hello. On Feb. 10, I and many others will be leading our Spring program called Why Catholic? Although not perfect, I think it is a good overview of the Catholic Faith. We began this past fall with the study of the Liturgy and will pick up again through the Lentan Season. It is a Four year program.
 
Most adults do not have time or care about learning more about their faith. UNLESS they have a faith experience perhaps by attending a Life in the Spirit Seminar or Koinonia or Cursillo. Something has to happen to jump start their faith, without which they are running on trying to obey the 10 commandments without much help from the Holy Spirit, the Spirit is the key, not just more teaching.
This is my perception as well and is at the heart of this entire issue.

You (meaning we) can find or develop and then offer the best opportunities for spiritual growth, but if Catholics don’t show up, it’s all for naught. We will continue to preach to the choir.

If you love something or someone, you want to find out more about them. If you don’t love them, or if you think you know everything there is to know about them, you couldn’t care less about learning more.

To be honest, many of our fellow Catholics don’t love Jesus and they don’t love the Church. They attend Mass and recieve the Sacraments for a variety of reasons, but not many do it out of love for Christ and his Church.

If we want Catholics to be interested in growing in their Faith, we need to present them the Faith in a time, place and manner that will awaken that love. But if they won’t come to these things we offer, how can they know?

Like it or not, it has to first come **from the pulpit at Mass **as it is the only captive audience venue most adult Catholics are exposed to.

This could probably done in a variety of ways, but I think the best way would be a parish mission where the homilists dedicate several weeks to this very topic: Loving God and His Bride, The Church: What God Has Done for Us, and What Our Response Should Be.

*Then *offer a Bible study or apologetics class and see what the response is.

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I agree with Fidelis that Love, honest to Jesus and testimony of the Faith are basic things for us to grow in our discipleship in Jesus…
For me, the most important and it is an imperative to do for each one of us is always putting Jesus at the center of our life.
and, we need to show always the happiness of being catholics.

For us, in my parish, the adults are more active and more cooperative, but there are many of them also come to church once a year, for example, during Christmas. And, for me, this is our problem now, because i belive that Jesus leaves 99 sheeps and searches for the lost (only 1), so, i think that our task is how to bring back this 1 to the church and more to Jesus.

injo
This is my perception as well and is at the heart of this entire issue.

You (meaning we) can find or develop and then offer the best opportunities for spiritual growth, but if Catholics don’t show up, it’s all for naught. We will continue to preach to the choir.

If you love something or someone, you want to find out more about them. If you don’t love them, or if you think you know everything there is to know about them, you couldn’t care less about learning more.

To be honest, many of our fellow Catholics don’t love Jesus and they don’t love the Church. They attend Mass and recieve the Sacraments for a variety of reasons, but not many do it out of love for Christ and his Church.

If we want Catholics to be interested in growing in their Faith, we need to present them the Faith in a time, place and manner that will awaken that love. But if they won’t come to these things we offer, how can they know?

Like it or not, it has to first come **from the pulpit at Mass **as it is the only captive audience venue most adult Catholics are exposed to.

This could probably done in a variety of ways, but I think the best way would be a parish mission where the homilists dedicate several weeks to this very topic: Loving God and His Bride, The Church: What God Has Done for Us, and What Our Response Should Be.

*Then *offer a Bible study or apologetics class and see what the response is.

.
 
My small parish of 100 families has just begun a Catholic Life Experience Series after more than 25 years with no formal adult Christian Education except for the usual RCIA and Advent and Lenten programs and a yearly parish retreat which was not well attended.

There is a hunger in our parish to learn more about the church, doctrine and spirituality. We are combining these with Scripture. At our first meeting, there were 17 people in attendence. This is a huge number for us! Also there were others who could not attend this meeting but will begin at a later time. There were people there who never show up for our other education programs!

My problem? Where are the men??? I do believe that most of these faith formation programs are geared toward women. Am I right in believing that men approach God differently and thus, need a different type of faith formation? What are your thought about this?
 
If you want to get some adult formation going in your parish, I highly recommend GreatAdventureOnline.com

The stuff there is all taught on DVD, is excellent, and is very easy to implement.
 
My husband told me how to get men to come, they are afraid God will ask them to change or give up something. You could provide food and beer, maybe have a study after watching a ballgame. We have Theology on Tap in our diocese with drinks and free supper and good discussion and that is well attended. Mostly, though, women come and then go home and twist the ear of their husbands to make them come eventually. That was my method, Rog would not come unless I checked it out first and encouraged him. And the group has to be led by a man also, preferably someone in authority. Most of the time a person will come and then invite their friends or relatives. People have to feel safe, they won’t embark into unknown territory easily, few are that adventuresome.
 
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