Catholic allowed to attend Christian Bible prayer group?

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Hi all,

(just wondering how the following 3 denominations differ from the True Catholic Church founded by Jesus Christ at the last supper 2017 years ago),

Also, what.are the beliefs and styles of worship of Pentacostals/ Evangelical Christian churches/ Born Again Christians (who focus heavily on using the power charisms of the Holy Spirit)

Do these three still strongly believe catholics (which is the True Faith founded by Our Lord at the Last Supper), do they erroneously believe catholics don’t get to Heaven?
are those three faiths erroneously judgemental of catholics and don’t mix with catholics?

Eg: hypothetically
If a catholic had no local Catholic prayer meetings near them,
If that Catholic person is also a charismatic Catholic, and decides to attend a Pentacostal/ Born Again, or Evangelical prayer meeting weekly, to pray to the Holy Spirit (like the Catholic Charismatic prayer meetings do), is it possible they might find some decent Christian friends at the Christian prayer meeting ?

Or maybe they might have to listen to talks on or receive some judging thoughts/ words against the Catholic Faith,
(Eucharist, Rosary, Saints, Confession, Our Lady)

(unfortunately there are Christians who are anti Catholic,.and who erroneously believe catholics won’t get to Heaven,) while Catholics are the True Faith founded by Jesus Christ 2017 years ago,

Can a Catholic go to other denomination prayer groups/ Bible groups, for the point of praying to the Holy Spirit and making Christian friends?

Would it cause scandal for other catholics to find out that their Catholic friend is attending Christian prayer groups?
(erroneously believing the Catholic is becoming a Christian instead)

(also, I.know.God is.granting the charisms of.the Holy Spirit to.the other.christian faiths,
They might have the Holy Spirit too,
But they do not have Jesus True Presence in.the Eucharistic,.the.Sacrament of Confession, or Our Lady of the Rosary, (all things that are biblical and were practiced by the Early Christians)
 
The main rule of thumb is to never go to mass outside of the Catholic Church and it is a mortal sin (requiring penance/confession) at a Catholic church before receiving holy communion. A deacon once told me that if it is an “event” of sorts that the Catholic Church locally does not offer, you are welcome to try to talk to the priests about starting one. If you are unable, speak to the priest about attending theirs. But, be careful about things like their praying without the sign of the cross (which is invalid), you must use it while praying if joined by them.

Their faiths also may have incredibly different superstitions and they are not in communion with the Pope, nor do they understand Canon Law in the slightest (even if they claim to be former Catholics). Quite obviously if they did, they would not have left for their reason when compared to what the Church says. If they offer you literature, it is wise to turn it down, as it may be biased as to what they believe. It’s nice to make friends of other denominations, and the Pope stated that we are considered “brothers.” However, they are usually far more politically different from us than you can imagine.

They endorse punishment, we endorse forgiveness.

I was going to add: some churches offer different groups that other churches may not offer formally. One example is the Gabriel Project to help out single mothers at Saint Vincent de Paul Church of Austin, Texas. I’d like to see more of that as you might like to see more bible studies. Our Church is great and has all we need, you just have to look around.
 
CatholicSpirit said:
The main rule of thumb is to never go to mass outside of the Catholic Church and it is a mortal sin (requiring penance/confession) at a Catholic church before receiving holy communion. A deacon once told me that if it is an “event” of sorts that the Catholic Church locally does not offer, you are welcome to try to talk to the priests about starting one. If you are unable, speak to the priest about attending theirs. But, be careful about things like their praying without the sign of the cross (which is invalid), you must use it while praying if joined by them.

Their faiths also may have incredibly different superstitions and they are not in communion with the Pope, nor do they understand Canon Law in the slightest (even if they claim to be former Catholics). Quite obviously if they did, they would not have left for their reason when compared to what the Church says. If they offer you literature, it is wise to turn it down, as it may be biased as to what they believe. It’s nice to make friends of other denominations, and the Pope stated that we are considered “brothers.” However, they are usually far more politically different from us than you can imagine.

They endorse punishment, we endorse forgiveness.
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I hear you friend 🙂

Every.christian writer seems.to be making their own theology up,

And we as catholics have 2000 years of Faith passed down from Jesus, to the Apostles, to The Church Fathers, to the saints, to today’s modern Catholic Church, in The Catechism of the Catholic Church, and Catholic Canon Law,

I thought the Catechism said catholics can attend Christian services at their own discretion (just for praying to God, not as replacement of the Catholic Sunday Mass obligation, and as long as the Catholic never receives the Christian bread (which is a mortal sin for catholics because it acts as a public appearance of not believing the.True Presence of Jesus in the Catholic Eucharist, Transtubstantiation)

Do you know the exact Catechism quote on catholics attending Christian services just for praying? 🙂

Also I agree with you,
Ecumenism is accepted by the Catholic church, fellowshipping with other Christian faiths, but is incredibly dangerous is the Catholic is not strong enough in their own foundation in the Catholic faith, as the Catholic could be erroneously converted into leaving the Catholic Faith founded by Jesus 2017 years ago
 
MaryHelp777 said:
I hear you friend 🙂

Every.christian writer seems.to be making their own theology up,

And we as catholics have 2000 years of Faith passed down from Jesus, to the Apostles, to The Church Fathers, to the saints, to today’s modern Catholic Church, in The Catechism of the Catholic Church, and Catholic Canon Law,

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I thought the Catechism said catholics can attend Christian services at their own discretion (just for praying to God, not as replacement of the Catholic Sunday Mass obligation, and as long as the Catholic never receives the Christian bread (which is a mortal sin for catholics because it acts as a public appearance of not believing the.True Presence of Jesus in the Catholic Eucharistic, Transtubstantiation)

Do you know the exact Catechism quote on catholics attending Christian services just for praying? :)**

Also I agree with you,
Ecumenism is okay with the church, fellowshipping with other Christian faiths, but is incredibly dangerous is the Catholic is not strong enough in their own foundation in the Catholic faith, as the Catholic could be erroneously converted into leaving the Catholic Faith founded by Jesus 2017 years ago
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Been my understanding as well.

You technically can attend this stuff, but it doesn’t fulfill Sunday obligation for Mass and do not take communion if offered as that would be essentially saying you agree with their beliefs.

Also, it’s discouraged from regularly attending this kind of stuff, for obvious reasons.
 
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CatholicSpirit:
I was going to add: some churches offer different groups that other churches may not offer formally. One example is the Gabriel Project to help out single mothers at Saint Vincent de Paul Church of Austin, Texas. I’d like to see more of that as you might like to see more bible studies. Our Church is great and has all we need, you just have to look around.
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True!
I could always, with God’s help, start up my own Catholic prayer group locally (for prayer, Bible reading, or anything like that),

Also, I do like Catholic charismatic prayer groups,( prayer to the Holy Spirit), but most people attending these are the same age as my grandparents,

My nearest Catholic prayer group for youth my age
is 45 minutes away, at a late time in the evening, on one of the days in the week that doesn’t suit me, (but I could try attending and offer up the distance and late time as a sacrifice 🙂
 
It’s a little secret of mine, but you can join confraternities which require prayer. Even if you aren’t in one it’s good to say 15 Hail Mary prayers a day for the Angelic Spiritual Warfare confraternity. I love saying more Hail Mary prayers, it’s better than a lot of other things you can do. The Blessed Virgin Mary is not always popular in other denominations and that’s one thing that makes being Catholic great. My prayers are just in time for the 100th Anniversary of Our Lady of Fatima.
 
CatholicSpirit said:
The main rule of thumb is to never go to mass outside of the Catholic Church and it is a mortal sin (requiring penance/confession) at a Catholic church before receiving holy communion.
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Whether or not it is a mortal sin is not for us to determine. Grave matter is the phrase you’re looking for, I believe.
 
Catholic Scripture Study
cssprogram.net
You can see if there is a local group near you. I attended one for a few lessons starting last fall (they follow the school year). They had an awesome retired priest who lectured, sharing his expertise on the Holy Land and background information. The second lecturer was a young lady who graduated from Steubenville, a Catholic University. Top caliber! Must be a great school.

Now the leader of the small group I was in, not so good. She allowed a whole class session debating the election. I never went back.

I wanted to study scripture. Maybe you can find a good group.
 
it is not a matter of what you are “allowed to do”

you can go where you want to go and do what you want you want to do

it is matter of what product is going to be delivered to you once you get to the “christian prayer group”

imho; unless the title of the group is “catholic prayer group” i’d’ve avoided it

j
 
MaryHelp777 said:
Do these three still strongly believe catholics (which is the True Faith founded by Our Lord at the Last Supper), do they erroneously believe catholics don’t get to Heaven?
are those three faiths erroneously judgemental of catholics and don’t mix with catholics?

Eg: hypothetically
If a catholic had no local Catholic prayer meetings near them,
If that Catholic person is also a charismatic Catholic, and decides to attend a Pentacostal/ Born Again, or Evangelical prayer meeting weekly, to pray to the Holy Spirit (like the Catholic Charismatic prayer meetings do), is it possible they might find some decent Christian friends at the Christian prayer meeting ?
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Hello Mary,
There was a period in my life when I attended various evangelical services. I was both a Catholic and LDS. I found it to be very rare that either of these faith systems were even mentioned during their service.
 
OP, the Catholic Church is Christian. As the Creed says, the Church of Christ is “One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic.” You should very much not use the word “Christian” as a synonym for “Protestant.” They may be Christian, but they do not define the term.
 
MaryHelp777 said:
Hi all,

(just wondering how the following 3 denominations differ from the True Catholic Church founded by Jesus Christ at the last supper 2017 years ago),

Also, what.are the beliefs and styles of worship of Pentacostals/ Evangelical Christian churches/ Born Again Christians (who focus heavily on using the power charisms of the Holy Spirit)

Do these three still strongly believe catholics (which is the True Faith founded by Our Lord at the Last Supper), do they erroneously believe catholics don’t get to Heaven?
are those three faiths erroneously judgemental of catholics and don’t mix with catholics?

Eg: hypothetically
If a catholic had no local Catholic prayer meetings near them,
If that Catholic person is also a charismatic Catholic, and decides to attend a Pentacostal/ Born Again, or Evangelical prayer meeting weekly, to pray to the Holy Spirit (like the Catholic Charismatic prayer meetings do), is it possible they might find some decent Christian friends at the Christian prayer meeting ?

Or maybe they might have to listen to talks on or receive some judging thoughts/ words against the Catholic Faith,
(Eucharist, Rosary, Saints, Confession, Our Lady)

(unfortunately there are Christians who are anti Catholic,.and who erroneously believe catholics won’t get to Heaven,) while Catholics are the True Faith founded by Jesus Christ 2017 years ago,

Can a Catholic go to other denomination prayer groups/ Bible groups, for the point of praying to the Holy Spirit and making Christian friends?

Would it cause scandal for other catholics to find out that their Catholic friend is attending Christian prayer groups?
(erroneously believing the Catholic is becoming a Christian instead)

(also, I.know.God is.granting the charisms of.the Holy Spirit to.the other.christian faiths,
They might have the Holy Spirit too,
But they do not have Jesus True Presence in.the Eucharistic,.the.Sacrament of Confession, or Our Lady of the Rosary, (all things that are biblical and were practiced by the Early Christians)
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Where exactly do you see the rosary in the Bible?
 
MaryHelp777 said:
Hi all,

(just wondering how the following 3 denominations differ from the True Catholic Church founded by Jesus Christ at the last supper 2017 years ago),

Also, what.are the beliefs and styles of worship of Pentacostals/ Evangelical Christian churches/ Born Again Christians (who focus heavily on using the power charisms of the Holy Spirit)
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There is no visible difference between pentecostal evangelical and born again, they might claim there is but I just freely travelled through them without any shift in anything.

But I can tell you having been essentially those 3 for 18 years, but now 3 years Catholic (thank God), that there is remarkably little the same between those 3 and Catholic.

For a start I have had to ban them from my house, because they would come around to my house enjoy my hospitality but then curse my Faith, friends don’t do that. I have also heard a repeated thing, that is that they are Christian, and no one else is.

For myself I just think they have mixed Christianity with 1960s californian hippie philosophy, and cut off all roots.
 
CatholicSpirit said:
The main rule of thumb is to never go to mass outside of the Catholic Church and it is a mortal sin (requiring penance/confession) at a Catholic church before receiving holy communion. A deacon once told me that if it is an “event” of sorts that the Catholic Church locally does not offer, you are welcome to try to talk to the priests about starting one. If you are unable, speak to the priest about attending theirs. But, be careful about things like their praying without the sign of the cross (which is invalid), you must use it while praying if joined by them.

Their faiths also may have incredibly different superstitions and they are not in communion with the Pope, nor do they understand Canon Law in the slightest (even if they claim to be former Catholics). Quite obviously if they did, they would not have left for their reason when compared to what the Church says. If they offer you literature, it is wise to turn it down, as it may be biased as to what they believe. It’s nice to make friends of other denominations, and the Pope stated that we are considered “brothers.” However, they are usually far more politically different from us than you can imagine.

They endorse punishment, we endorse forgiveness.

I was going to add: some churches offer different groups that other churches may not offer formally. One example is the Gabriel Project to help out single mothers at Saint Vincent de Paul Church of Austin, Texas. I’d like to see more of that as you might like to see more bible studies. Our Church is great and has all we need, you just have to look around.
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Please show me in Church teaching where praying without the SOC is invalid. If that is so, I pray invalid prayers all day long, as do most of us here, because I talk to God all day long and do not make the SOC each time. Please do not make such assertions without backing them up. That is a rather large assertion, and also, the prayers of our Protestant brothers and sisters are NOT invalid. God hears them as much as He hears us. Saying this is just as bad as what we hear SOME of them claim about Catholics.
 
MaryHelp777 said:
Eg: hypothetically
If a catholic had no local Catholic prayer meetings near them,
If that Catholic person is also a charismatic Catholic, and decides to attend a Pentacostal/ Born Again, or Evangelical prayer meeting weekly, to pray to the Holy Spirit (like the Catholic Charismatic prayer meetings do), is it possible they might find some decent Christian friends at the Christian prayer meeting ?
…

Or maybe they might have to listen to talks on or receive some judging thoughts/ words against the Catholic Faith,
(Eucharist, Rosary, Saints, Confession, Our Lady)
…

Would it cause scandal for other catholics to find out that their Catholic friend is attending Christian prayer groups?
(erroneously believing the Catholic is becoming a Christian instead)
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You probably would meet some very decent folks at non Catholic prayer meetings. The problem is that they will be missing out on and necessarily oppose some truth. The degree to which this is a problem depends on your own knowledge of the faith and your ability to stand firm against error. Various Protestants disagree amongst themselves about lots of points of doctrine but what they are very often unified on is strong opposition to the Catholic Church and some very core teachings.

A Catholic is already a Christian. Some Protestants would say Catholics aren’t Christian. I am not sure if I am misunderstanding but the way you wrote this makes it sound like you’ve allowed that kind of rhetoric to seep into your mind. If so I’d be very concerned about the risk you as a Catholic face in attending non Catholic events.
CatholicSpirit said:
But, be careful about things like their praying without the sign of the cross (which is invalid), you must use it while praying if joined by them.
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The sign of the cross is not necessary to make prayer valid. If so then cripples couldn’t pray. The Baltimore Catechism says: ‘Prayer is the lifting up of our minds and hearts to God, to adore Him, to thank Him for His benefits, to ask His forgiveness, and to beg of Him all the graces we need whether for soul or body.’ Prayer is accomplished through our heart and mind. It can be accompanied by a physical act but that isn’t necessary.
 
brian_custer said:
it is not a matter of what you are “allowed to do”

you can go where you want to go and do what you want to do
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Who are you, The Mamas and the Papas?

Heh. 🙂 But seriously, we should be careful not to overgeneralize. There do exist groups that are specifically for Baptists, or specifically for Pentecostals, or specifically for Presbyterians, or specifically for Lutherans, or specifically for Eastern Orthodox, or even specifically for Roman Catholics.
 
CB_Catholic said:
Please show me in Church teaching where praying without the SOC is invalid. If that is so, I pray invalid prayers all day long, as do most of us here, because I talk to God all day long and do not make the SOC each time. Please do not make such assertions without backing them up. That is a rather large assertion, and also, the prayers of our Protestant brothers and sisters are NOT invalid. God hears them as much as He hears us. Saying this is just as bad as what we hear SOME of them claim about Catholics.
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exnihilo said:
The sign of the cross is not necessary to make prayer valid. If so then cripples couldn’t pray. The Baltimore Catechism says: ‘Prayer is the lifting up of our minds and hearts to God, to adore Him, to thank Him for His benefits, to ask His forgiveness, and to beg of Him all the graces we need whether for soul or body.’ Prayer is accomplished through our heart and mind. It can be accompanied by a physical act but that isn’t necessary.
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I was wondering when this would show up. Thank you!
 
MichaelP3 said:
I was wondering when this would show up. Thank you!
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Hold for a moment please; am I understanding that it is now an issue whether or not it is possible to pray validly without making the sign of the cross?
 
It’s better not to go. Your opinion will not be respected.

I was non-denominational the first half of my life and even as a kid I recognized how they seemed to make things up and bend scripture. It all seemed contrived.

Look up 2 Timothy 4: 3,4.
 
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