Catholic bishop bars pro-abortion U.S. senator from Communion until he ‘repents’

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“Blessed are they who follow the Law of the Lord.”

I love my friends and my enemies, and yes, God sends the sun and rain on both the Good and the Bad. How could it not be so!

Now please explain to me how the Bishops Love for this Senator is not evident in his rightful duty to bring his sheep back into the fold. I’m sure we can discuss the other ways this could possibly be accomplished. But The Senator’s Bishop is the only one out of the three of us that knows exactly what took place in the days prior to this announcement. I will side with the Bishop because he seems like a fair and just man.
 
Hereiam said:
Get the rest of them…then everyone using contraceptives, then all the adulters and fornicators…parking and seating will no longer be an issue on Ash Wednesday, Palm Sunday, Easter, and Christmas!
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Canon 915 does not allow the minister to ban sinners, but it does require him to refuse communion to all who “obstinately persist in manifest, grave sin.” I’m guessing that most adulterers, fornicators, and those on contraceptives don’t publicize their activities. Thus, even if the priest knew of their behavior, they would be unaffected by this canon. Don’t trivialize the problem here.
 
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I am from the Docese of Springfield in Illinois and he is a just and patient man. He is also a canon lawyer. This and other issues with Senator Durbin are not new. I would just like to add that one would be wary of any news articles that might appear in the Springfield paper reporting this: they may not always be without strong bias.
 
Hereiam said:
Get the rest of them…then everyone using contraceptives, then all the adulters and fornicators…parking and seating will no longer be an issue on Ash Wednesday, Palm Sunday, Easter, and Christmas!
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This comment couldn’t have missed the point more spectacularly if you’d tried.

When someone who is in a position of power and professes to be a practicing Catholic publicly performs actions that are irrefutably outside Catholic teaching, that person needs to be called out on it. It creates scandal for the faithful. We are to be Catholic FIRST, and anything else SECOND.
 
Bp. Paprocki will be discussing this LIVE Tue. on the Morning Air show of Relevant Radio.
 
Tis_Bearself said:
Does this Durbin chap even bother going to church, I wonder?
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This could cause some people to no longer worship in a Catholic church. And Senator Durbin in response has said, "Is that all this Church is about, is one issue? For bishops to announce that they are going to penalize Catholics on certain votes I think is “reaching too far.”

But Paprocki said that he’s talked to Durbin, who told the bishop that he doesn’t approach for communion in Springfield anyway.


https://aleteia.org/blogs/deacon-gr...in-is-not-to-be-admitted-to-holy-communion/2/
 
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If having to follow the Church rules causes people to throw up their hands and not go to Church, then that is a problem between themselves and God. If Durbin goes anyway and sits in the pew at Communion time, then that is a point in his favor.
 
Sy_Noe said:
Does this Durbin chap even bother going to church, I wonder?

This could cause some people to no longer worship in a Catholic church. And Senator Durbin in response has said, "Is that all this Church is about, is one issue? For bishops to announce that they are going to penalize Catholics on certain votes I think is “reaching too far.”
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He used to go weekly. I don’t know about now; we moved away from the parish. I also remember him receiving communion on at least one televised event. This issue is nothing new to him. As for the stated response, isn’t that like saying I believe in all the Catholic Church teaches except… The church is not a “one trick pony”, but a persistent, public opposition to a key belief merits a public response from the bishop.
 
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Tis_Bearself:
Does this Durbin chap even bother going to church, I wonder?
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This could cause some people to no longer worship in a Catholic church. And Senator Durbin in response has said, "Is that all this Church is about, is one issue? For bishops to announce that they are going to penalize Catholics on certain votes I think is “reaching too far.”
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And who’s fault is it that some people will no longer want to worship at a Catholic Church! Senator Durbin’s response is typical of a Luke warm catholic.
 
Tis_Bearself said:
If having to follow the Church rules causes people to throw up their hands and not go to Church, then that is a problem between themselves and God. If Durbin goes anyway and sits in the pew at Communion time, then that is a point in his favor.
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I agree this would at least show some respect to the church and his Love of Christ.
 
Tis_Bearself said:
If having to follow the Church rules causes people to throw up their hands and not go to Church, then that is a problem between themselves and God. If Durbin goes anyway and sits in the pew at Communion time, then that is a point in his favor.
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I have no idea if Senator Durbin goes to Mass anyway in IL or if he goes elsewhere or if he is one of many who have left the pews. But yes I trust God will sort it all out in time. Not only to what Durbin might have to answer to. And I have no doubt God knows Durbin is a legislator living in a society of plural beliefs. But Christ spoke of an easy yoke. So as far as we know, perhaps as well to what others might have to answer to if they caused Catholics to check out of the inn for whatever burden placed upon their backs. I do think there’s a lot to be said for us being more concerned with our own planks whatever they may be.
 
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Sy_Noe said:
This could cause some people to no longer worship in a Catholic church.
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That’s on them.
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And Senator Durbin in response has said, "Is that all this Church is about, is one issue? For bishops to announce that they are going to penalize Catholics on certain votes I think is “reaching too far.”
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That’s because he’s not thinking like a Catholic.
 
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The church is not a “one trick pony”, but a persistent, public opposition to a key belief merits a public response from the bishop.
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Yes I recall Cardinal Wuerl discussing on FOX News about how the faith is a whole package and some pick and choose what they will and others what they will. Whether it be the legality of abortion, or views on immigration, the climate, death penalty or what have you. I’ve even had to correct people on CAF multiple times when they imply that someone is not a Catholic contrary to that key belief as to whom the Catholic Church claims to be a Catholic. The Pope too has said he doesn’t understand counting values on a finger.
 
Very well said. In addition, another problematic opinion is that of following your conscience; it needs to be a well formed conscious.
 
Raxus said:
Do you have any doubt that God thinks the murder of babies is evil?
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No not as you phrase it. But as a human with a finite mind, I am not about to think I know what God thinks about the nuances with regard to a mother’s life, fetal life and so forth. I am certain God knows Sen Durbin is a legislator in a secular society with plural beliefs. But in any case I’m fine with leaving all of this in an all knowing and merciful God’s hands to sort out rather than on the internet. So I am departing from this thread.
 
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