Catholic bishop resigns, admits he has 2 kids

[nickybr38]

For that matter, she may well be a complete victim. Look at the various bigamy instances of men having multiple familes in different cities.

Wait… did he say he’s married to her? Sorry, maybe I misread but I didn’t think he’d married her necessarily.

 

[Godfollower]

Godfollower;8781583:

nickybr38;8781517:

No mention of the woman because she isn’t the one who took vows.

For that matter, she may well be a complete victim. Look at the various bigamy instances of men having multiple familes in different cities.
Wait… did he say he’s married to her? Sorry, maybe I misread but I didn’t think he’d married her necessarily.

No, there’s utter silence on that score. I was citing the bigamy cases as an example of wives and children who had no idea daddy was cheating. I’m not saying that’s the case here; I have no idea whether the mother of his children is married to him or not, or whether she knows he’s a bishop or not. I’m just saying that it’s a good idea not to denigrate her because we know nothing about her.

And, of course, the children are completely innocent.

 

[Brendan]

Can anyone who is from his area and knows this Bishop provide us some insight on his character?

He was current president of Pax Christi

 

[Julia_Mae]

Here is the official statement from Archbishop Gomez

la-archdiocese.org/org/media/Press%20Releases/2012-01-04-Zavala.pdf

I think it is important to note that the archdiocese will look after the welfare of the mother and children.

Since Bishop Zavala is 60 years old, perhaps he will simply retire to a life of privacy.

With his wife and children. Where he will write a book about his double life soon to be made into a film while the people of his former Archdiocese pay to put his kids through college.

Or, did you think he would walk away from every single responsibility he has?

 

[Brendan]

With his wife and children.

Unless he had recieved a papal dispensation, (which I highly doubt), or he married prior to diaconal ordination; the woman in question would not be his wife.

 

[unafraid]

You are reading too much into it and being dramatic. The Bishop did a graze sin. Period.

Marian apparitions. . . . . Really?

How about some practical solutions here.

Firstly, when you minimize the Bishop’s transgressions as being some sort of isolated case of “grave sin”, to be viewed as apart from all others, you are being naive in the extreme. The Church in Ireland is on the verge of collapse; the Roman Catholic culture in New England has been gutted, and is a shell of its former self; the foremost charismatic Roman Catholic evangelist (Corapi) has precipitously, and suddenly, spiralled downward…and on and on the examples go, forming an almost neverending chain… Why? Because of the same base corruption of the body, and infidelity to Christ and His Church. In the Bargain, Satan draws millions away from Our Lord. It is frightening.

These things can’ t be viewed as isolated, coincidental manifestations of sin. Not when they threaten the very core of the faith. They must be viewed in toto, because it is in its scope and magnitude that this rampant infidelity has wrought its heavy cost on the Roman Catholic Church. The cumulative effect of all of these trangressions, occurring one upon the next, is what is “grave” here, and your “practical” approach to it is entirely insufficient.

Secondly, It seems by your stupification at my mentioning Marian Apparitions and the prophetic warnings regarding corruption, and its consequences upon the Church, that you are unfamiliar with Fatima, and the depth of the messages therein; and, also (with a caveat), I reference Garabandal, which, although never confirmed, nor condemned, contained prophetic messages which presage the clerical sexual abuse scandal precisely. Our Lady has warned us out of love. That is VERY dramatic…in my view.

If you do not think that the Roman Catholic Church is a mystical organism which moves through time by sheer grace, then my perspective probably is beyond your ken. However, it was Christ Himself Who formed this Church, and when forces move Her, positively, or negatively, I see the hand of God, or the machinations of Satan, clearly at work. The Church I belong to can only be moved by forces well beyond the merely “practical”, or corporeal.

You may underestimate this as simply being a Bishop morally transgressing, no big deal, but I view it as another spear thrust into the side of the Church, and instead of blood, I see more of the faithful pouring out of Holy Mother Church, and away from Christ. That is very, very dramatic…in my view.

Also, I believe that praying the Rosary and Eucharistic Adoration are PRACTICAL solutions to the Church’s current crisis. I really do.

 

[Hokomai]

Had the Bishop, from the Catholic point of view, compounded his sin by the use of artificial means of birth control, is it likely that his superior would have required his resignation, had he learned of the event? Or has he been required to resign because he fathered children, rather than that he had sex?

 

[Pax2u]

So, uh…the Bishop was not married to the woman…okay…so…why does the Archdiocese feel a responsibility to help support the mother and children? Does this mean that the Bishop will not be marrying her (if not already married) and living with them? Is he, whether married to her or not, not responsible for the welfare of his children?

By “married,” I mean in the more general civil sense…not as a Catholic Sacrament…

Just askin’…

These were my thoughts, also. Why is the Church responsible for college costs for these children…I would think that the two parents involved are responsible for the expenses of their children.

 

[unafraid]

Please, do not parse my words. And, I am a very direct man, who speaks plainly. I do nothing in a “round about” way. If I choose to visit Garabandal, kneel there, and say a rosary, the Church in no way impedes me from doing so; they, instead, have reserved their judgement.

I am promoting nothing, but am elucidating my own perception of something mystical which the Church neither accepts, nor condemns. I am not forbidden to do so.

 

[GraceSofia]

Oh, boy, this is terrible for the scandal it brings on the Church and Catholicism .
Non-Catholics get to say, “See what hypocrites they are?”

He resigned as bishop. Will he still be a priest? What does “he will live privately” mean? That he will be laicized? As he made any kind of statement? This calls for some sort of public penance, to my mind, since it seems logical that he was living a charade for some time.

 

[Tigg]

He’s a sinner, just like the rest of us.

Well, yes…but there are different levels of sin - some deadly. As with all sacraments, there is a particular grace given specific to Holy Orders, but grace must be lived and increased by the practice of holy virtue.

The Spirituality of Priestly Celibacy

We are taught that Holy Order sets a seal on the nature of the priest. Character does not radically transform human nature but makes it so that each activity of this nature cannot be other than a priestly activity. With all his life, the priest is at the service of the Word, to lead human beings and the world back to Him. For this to be done, the physical world must be subjected to the spirit and the spirit to God. Chastity is the force that brings our emotional life back to obeying the spirit; and therefore in chastity lie the first means for freeing us from the slavery of the senses and for ordering us to the spiritual life. The priest should set an example of this liberation in himself, and be our guide. For, as regards chastity, we are all summoned to begin our journey of healing for a human nature fragmented by sin. Hence the importance of chastity in the life of every Christian, but hence the exceptional importance this virtue ought to have in the life of the priest, who is more directly called to live Christ’s mission, so that all physical nature too may be ordered to God.

vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cclergy/documents/rc_con_cclergy_doc_01011993_spiri_en.html

I think secularism and a worldly spirit is much to blame for the short-comings we are hearing about more often.