Catholic bishops promise civil disobedience, hospital closings if government requires Catholic hospitals to do abortions

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The article doesn’t seem to mention any new position by the US bishops. What it does mention is that FOCA may actually be introduced, which AFAIK is the first time its been discussed by the Democrats.
the article:
The Freedom of Choice Act failed to get out of subcommittee in 2004, but its sponsor is poised to refile it now that former Senate co-sponsor Barack Obama occupies the Oval Office.

A spokesman for Rep. Jerrold Nadler, D-N.Y., said the legislation “is among the congressman’s priorities. We expect to reintroduce it sooner rather than later.”
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the article:
Ilan Kayatsky, Nadler’s spokesman, said he anticipates that the bill’s other original sponsor, Sen. Barbara Boxer, D-Calif., will introduce FOCA in the U.S. Senate. “We expect it to be more or less the same bill with some minor tweaks,” Kayatsky said.

Boxer’s office declined to comment.

Rep. William Lacy Clay, a Roman Catholic, and Rep. Russ Carnahan — both St. Louis Democrats — were co-sponsors of the legislation. Neither responded to requests for an interview. Bishop Robert Hermann, acting head of the Archdiocese of St. Louis, was unavailable for comment.
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The article does mention a couple Catholic authorities who state that Catholic hospitals were more likely to adopt a civil disobedience approach rather than outright closure, were FOCA to pass.

BTW, I find it refreshing to see a newspaper which moderates its online comments. 👍
 
This is obviously a priority for FOCA co-sponsor Obama, as it is payback time. He must now return the favors his PRO-DEATH supporters granted him for his public support of the anti-woman, anti-children abortion agenda that got him elected.

Obama and his wife Michelle are obviously both brilliant attorneys, educated at the best Ivy League Universities. They surely know that 50 million innocent babies have been murdered in the US alone, but they must believe it is ok, “for the greater good”?

We are commanded to do everything possible to change their minds, through prayer and fasting and public witness to the Truth of Jesus Christ our Savior. If we have done all that we can and they continue on their road to Perdition, then it is on their souls, not ours!

We cannot sell the hospitals to those who would murder innocent babies through abortion.

Civil disobedience is required and if the lawsuits cause the hospitals to close, then that is their problem!

Sancta Maria, Mater Dei, Ora Pro Nobis Peccatoribus!

Mark
 
I hope and pray for two things.
  1. That FOCA does not pass
  2. That if it does, the Bishops follow through with closing the hospitals. This will cause persecution of the Church in the United States as we have never seen before. This is how saints and martyrs are made.
 
My hearts breaks for our country. The loss of jobs, hope and now pushing FOCA to the point that hospitals close. I believe that we need to pray, pray pray…and stay in touch with our representatives in DC. I get discouraged about mine… they are all pro-abortion…

Lord, hear our prayers
 
Mark77 said:
This is obviously a priority for FOCA co-sponsor Obama, as it is payback time.
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Co-sponsored with how many? About 40? Obama did not write the bill nor was he a major backer. FOCA is not even a current bill in Congress.
 
Deacon_Ed_B said:
I hope and pray for two things.
  1. That FOCA does not pass
  2. That if it does, the Bishops follow through with closing the hospitals. This will cause persecution of the Church in the United States as we have never seen before. This is how saints and martyrs are made.
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Maybe we NEED them right about now.

At least it will flush the anti-Catholic bigots into the open.
 
Beau_Ouiville said:
Co-sponsored with how many? About 40? Obama did not write the bill nor was he a major backer. FOCA is not even a current bill in Congress.
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FOCA has been around before. It was soundly defeated several years back. The difference now is that there are more votes for it…
 
Who in America deserves “choice”? Do ethical doctors and nurses not also deserve “choice”? I would think that the Freedom of Choice Act would give the freedom to those who have studied medicine to choose the most ethical and safe way to deliver medicine. Why is it that the government along with all its lawyers has annointed itself the god of all professions! When will the day come when lawyers will be forced to practice ethical law? The government gods seem to be the only ones exempt from restrictions.:hmmm:
 
Beau_Ouiville said:
Co-sponsored with how many? About 40? Obama did not write the bill nor was he a major backer. FOCA is not even a current bill in Congress.
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The latest information I have is that portions of FOCA are being added into other bills to try and get some of the provisions passed without people being aware.
 
Please pray that the article I post in my blog tonight at 8 pm about the hospitals closing or the possibilty of civil disobedience will touch and change people’s lives. We also need to pray that the Bishops will be strong and hold on to the Church’s teachings and convictions…

Jesus, Mary, Joseph… be with us.

Pam
 
Deacon_Ed_B said:
I hope and pray for two things.
  1. That FOCA does not pass
  2. That if it does, the Bishops follow through with closing the hospitals. This will cause persecution of the Church in the United States as we have never seen before. This is how saints and martyrs are made.
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The persecution of Chrit’s Church continues. Sometimes it is overt, sometimes covert. Right now it is quickly becomeing overt.l

Just a question that popped into my head. What happens if Catholics have no choice but be cared for illnesses, emergencies in a hospital that provides abortions? If we have no other choice? Am I being paranoid in the extreme? First, there would be a conscience issue, then one of trust if only pro-abort medicos were working in the hospitals?:eek:

Could Catholic Hospitals raise their fees so high for abortions, contraceptives, that no one could afford them? I suppose the insurance agency would have a word to say about that. ???
 
elts1956 said:
The persecution of Chrit’s Church continues. Sometimes it is overt, sometimes covert. Right now it is quickly becomeing overt.l

Just a question that popped into my head. What happens if Catholics have no choice but be cared for illnesses, emergencies in a hospital that provides abortions? If we have no other choice? Am I being paranoid in the extreme? First, there would be a conscience issue, then one of trust if only pro-abort medicos were working in the hospitals?:eek:

Could Catholic Hospitals raise their fees so high for abortions, contraceptives, that no one could afford them? I suppose the insurance agency would have a word to say about that. ???
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It would be OK to seek treatment at non-Catholic hospitals, so long as that treatment has nothing to do with abortion. As far as raising fees, my understanding is that with the government health care plan, prices will be pre-determined for many procedures. What we are seeing develop is the free market system being dismantled before our eyes. This is what the majority of the uninformed electorate voted for with Obama. As a nation, we got what we voted for. We can only hope and pray that things are not squered enough so that in four years a true honest election can be had, without districts being re-aligned by the White House, which is what they are trying to do by shaving the census controlled from there.
 
onetruechurch said:
Who in America deserves “choice”? Do ethical doctors and nurses not also deserve “choice”? I would think that the Freedom of Choice Act would give the freedom to those who have studied medicine to choose the most ethical and safe way to deliver medicine. Why is it that the government along with all its lawyers has annointed itself the god of all professions! When will the day come when lawyers will be forced to practice ethical law? The government gods seem to be the only ones exempt from restrictions.:hmmm:
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When this nation gets its punishment it deserves. Otherwise, the 360 change wouldn’t be coming anytime soon.
 
Deacon_Ed_B said:
It would be OK to seek treatment at non-Catholic hospitals, so long as that treatment has nothing to do with abortion. As far as raising fees, my understanding is that with the government health care plan, prices will be pre-determined for many procedures. What we are seeing develop is the free market system being dismantled before our eyes. This is what the majority of the uninformed electorate voted for with Obama. As a nation, we got what we voted for. We can only hope and pray that things are not squered enough so that in four years a true honest election can be had, without districts being re-aligned by the White House, which is what they are trying to do by shaving the census controlled from there.
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Pretty soon our country will be re named Iraq. We already have our Hussein. What is going to stop these people? They are destroying every law, institution of individual freedom this country is built on.
 
elts1956 said:
Pretty soon our country will be re named Iraq. We already have our Hussein. What is going to stop these people? They are destroying every law, institution of individual freedom this country is built on.
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Lets not forget that our most powerful weapon against all this is prayer. Everyone praying the rosary changed the course of European history at the battle of Lepanto. If you are not now praying, start. All of you - pray the rosary, the Chaplet of Divine Mercy, start adoration if you are not doing so now. Pray - Pray - Pray.
 
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