Catholic charity's appeal over gay adoption fails

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Just out of interest, is there any information regarding how many gay couples have attempted to adopt children through Catholic adoption agencies and have been refused? Surely a gay couple looking to adopt a child would find a secular adoption agency where there would be no issue regarding their sexuality? You wonder why a gay couple would choose to adopt through a Catholic agency. 🤷
 
A so-called “gay couple” would have a very good reason: deliberate provocation!

Next question?
If they are only doing this to provoke the adoption agency, then do they really love the kid?
 
If they are only doing this to provoke the adoption agency, then do they really love the kid?
The couple may be sincere in their desire to adopt and love a child. However, their choice of a Catholic adoption agency over a secular one or one that did not have a moral issue with same-sex couples, is suspect.
 
If they are only doing this to provoke the adoption agency, then do they really love the kid?
The only love they have is self-love. Monstrous self-love.
They may not even recognise it as that.

The politicians that have inflicted this depraved legislation on us have more to answer for.
If they don`t repent, there may have to be deeper pits in hell than there are already.
 
The only love they have is self-love. Monstrous self-love.
They may not even recognise it as that.

The politicians that have inflicted this depraved legislation on us have more to answer for.
If they don`t repent, there may have to be deeper pits in hell than there are already.
If they only love themselves, then what do they feel towards each other? There would be no point in trying to adopt as a gay couple if they didn’t feel anything towards each other.

I thought the pits of hell were deep enough already, how much deeper can they possibly get?
 
If they only love themselves, then what do they feel towards each other? There would be no point in trying to adopt as a gay couple if they didn’t feel anything towards each other.
Whatever they feel towards each other isn`t normal heterosexual love.

Total self-giving (ie without any form of contraception) heterosexual love is a reflection of the inner Life of God, and is fruitful: ie at least the possibility of children, which is the ultimate reason for marriage.
Their brand of “love” isnt......and isnt. Its unnatural and barren. Spitting in Gods Face. But, as said before, the politicians are more to blame. How could supposedly decent people legislate child abuse into law? And enforce it!
I thought the pits of hell were deep enough already, how much deeper can they possibly get?
As deep as is necessary.
Anyway, until the General Resurrection, hell is not a place, but only a state.
 
Whatever they feel towards each other isnt normal heterosexual love. Even homosexual love, however unnatural and wrong it is, is still love. They are not entirely consumed by self love. Total self-giving (ie without any form of contraception) heterosexual love is a reflection of the inner Life of God, and is fruitful: ie at least the possibility of children, which is the ultimate reason for marriage. Adoption would allow gay couples to have children. Children adopted by heterosexual parents are considered a family, why can't children adopted by homosexual "parents" be considered family? Their brand of "love" isnt…and isnt. Its unnatural and barren. Spitting in God`s Face. But, as said before, the politicians are more to blame. How could supposedly decent people legislate child abuse into law? And enforce it!
How could supposedly decent people be corrupt and what not? Because they are only SUPPOSEDLY decent. And I don’t see where child abuse comes into this.
As deep as is necessary.
Anyway, until the General Resurrection, hell is not a place, but only a state.
What is the General Resurrection?
 
A bit late for this; and off the beaten track.

The “monstrous self-love” accusation was aimed more at the deliberate provocation types than at the others. The whole thing`s still hideously evil, though.

A married heterosexual couple adopts children because one of the spouses has a problem which prevents the wife from conceiving, or if she does, she miscarries or whatever. The adoptive parents can treat the children as if theyre their own flesh and blood, and the children may never know the truth. The same cant be said for same-sex “unions”. No matter what you want to call it, the love between two men or two women CANNOT result in conception by one of the “spouses”. It takes a MAN and a WOMAN (as you already know). FULL STOP!
Its blatantly obvious! And itd be blatantly obvious to the poor “adopted” children.

Are the politically correct Western politicians going to demand that biology textbooks be rewritten - similar to the Soviet Empire`s treatment of genetics?

For a physically/mentally/spiritually healthy upbringing, children need a well-balanced MASCULINE (not butchy) father-figure and a well-balanced FEMININE ***(not ***effeminate) mother figure. There are more than enough dysfunctional “families” around already.

Genesis 1:26-28: “Then God said, ‘Let Us make Man in Our image, after Our likeness’…So God created Man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. Then God blessed them…” RSV. Theres Trinitarian language in this., and the beautiful language of true (heterosexual) marriage ("Then God blessed them......"). Genesis 2:21-22: "So the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon the man, and while he slept, took one of his ribs......He made into a woman......" RSV. Scripture also says: "...... a man will leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife, and the two will become one flesh.". The beauty of it is awesome! Its a foretaste of the Beatific Vision.

There`s the saying: "God created Adam and Eve; NOT Adam and Steve."

There`s a universe of a difference between the two forms of “family:”
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Labouring the point? Sure; but… And a hell of a lot more could be said.

So you don`t believe that inflicting unnatural “marital” unions on innocent, defenceless young children is a form of child abuse?

The family should be the basic building block of society. At present, Satan et al are doing a great job of tearing apart the fabric of society. The word “diabolical” comes from “dia boline”, which means to tear apart. How appropriate!

The General Resurrection occurs at the End of Time, The Last Day, Doomsday, or whatever else you want to call it. For better or for worse, the souls of all of the dead will be (re)united with bodies, and the General Judgement will follow, leading to Heaven or Hell…forever.
 
A bit late for this; and off the beaten track.
Better late than never.
The “monstrous self-love” accusation was aimed more at the deliberate provocation types than at the others. The whole thing`s still hideously evil, though.
So the deliberate provocation types don’t genuinely love each other, they are only going together to annoy the Church? And the non-deliberate provocation types go together out of genuine love for each other and happen to annoy the Church at the same time. Even though both groups are hideously evil, can one be considered more evil than the other. What I mean is, is it more evil to be normal people who pretend to be homosexual to annoy other people than to be genuinely homosexual?

A married heterosexual couple adopts children because one of the spouses has a problem which prevents the wife from conceiving, or if she does, she miscarries or whatever. The adoptive parents can treat the children as if theyre their own flesh and blood, and the children may never know the truth. A perfectly fertile couple without birth complications could practice NFP and then adopt a child. People don't just adopt because they can't have their own children. The same cant be said for same-sex “unions”. No matter what you want to call it, the love between two men or two women CANNOT result in conception by one of the “spouses”. It takes a MAN and a WOMAN (as you already know). FULL STOP!
Its blatantly obvious! And itd be blatantly obvious to the poor “adopted” children.
The love between two males or two females cannot result in procreation. Wouldn’t that be a reason why the couple would want to adopt?
Are the politically correct Western politicians going to demand that biology textbooks be rewritten - similar to the Soviet Empires treatment of genetics? They wouldn't rewrite the biology textbooks, but they might ask the scientists to develop a method that allows homosexual individuals to procreate. Because the discrimination laws make things complicated. The homosexuals are already getting their marriage rights. Next they will be asking for the right to have children naturally. For a physically/mentally/spiritually healthy upbringing, children need a well-balanced MASCULINE (***not butchy***) father-figure and a well-balanced FEMININE ***(not ******effeminate)*** mother figure. There are more than enough dysfunctional "families" around already. Well said. Genesis 1:26-28: "Then God said, 'Let Us make Man in Our image, after Our likeness'......So God created Man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created ***them***. Then God blessed them......" RSV. Theres Trinitarian language in this., and the beautiful language of true (heterosexual) marriage (“Then God blessed them…”).
Genesis 2:21-22: “So the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon the man, and while he slept, took one of his ribs…He made into a woman…” RSV.
Scripture also says: “… a man will leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife, and the two will become one flesh.”. The beauty of it is awesome! Its a foretaste of the Beatific Vision. With all this support in the bible (and there are several other places in the bible where homosexuality is condemned), why is it that some churches are going to bless homosexual "marriages"? I think there is a thread somewhere here about the Episcopal Church introducing a gay marriage rite, if anyone is interested. I used to go to the Episcopal Church and they put emphasis on the fact that the Bible is right no matter what, then they turn around and ignore all the quotes from the Bible that say homosexuality is immoral. Theres the saying: "God created Adam and Eve; NOT Adam and Steve."
Short and sweet. I like it.👍
There`s a universe of a difference between the two forms of “family:”
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Labouring the point? Sure; but… And a hell of a lot more could be said.

So you don`t believe that inflicting unnatural “marital” unions on innocent, defenceless young children is a form of child abuse?
Legally it isn’t, but morally it is. I just asked that because I was wondering how to reply if someone were to ask me exactly that.
The family should be the basic building block of society. At present, Satan et al are doing a great job of tearing apart the fabric of society. The word “diabolical” comes from “dia boline”, which means to tear apart. How appropriate!
I heard somewhere about an Olympic athlete who won a gold medal. In a TV interview, she publicly thanked her family then thanked her country. Later, she was forced to apologize for thanking her family before her country.

The General Resurrection occurs at the End of Time, The Last Day, Doomsday, or whatever else you want to call it. For better or for worse, the souls of all of the dead will be (re)united with bodies, and the General Judgement will follow, leading to Heaven or Hell…forever.
Where does purgatory fit into this?
 
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