Catholic Church called "Evil Incarnate" on Irish Radio

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michaelmac:
Originally Posted by Iowa Mike
As I explained in my original post…these things were done by men, bishops, priests, etc. not by the Church. The 97% or 98% of the clergy that are faithful to Church teaching, their vows, etc. should not be condemned by the acts of the 2% or 3% who were not.

As far as I’m concerned it is a very back and white issue…those priets, bishops, etc. that covered up these abuses, perpetrated the abuses or knew about the abuses and did nothing need to answer to both God and civil authority…they are black. Those that have faithfully followed Church teachings, knew nothing about these abuses and have been faithful to their vows…they are white.

Those who you are call black are part of the church , The same as you are , It is arguments like this that give none Catholics or those who attack the church ammunition , the O Poster forgets to mention or does not know is that all the religious orders involved in the industrial schools were party to braking the law , And the law they were party to was when a child was taken before the courts and given a criminal record , When there should have been no criminal record , They cannot now say they do not know ,

Iowa Mike

MichaelMac,

I’ve underlined your comments above. You inadvertantly published your comments over my name. Please avoid this in the future.

RE: Your logic, it is flawed. Just because one or a few members of an organization go off the rails doesn’t mean the whole organization is bad. If you follow this train of thought to it’s logical conclusion then because of the deeds of a handful of U.S. military personnel at Abu Ghraib prison the whole military completx is completely corrupt. The military purged and prosecuted those responsible which is exactly what the Church is doing. The Church will be stronger for this scandel as it purges itself of these individuals.

One other thing, criminal behavior is not restricted to the Catholic Church…how about:

Jimmy Bakker…adulterer, felon

Jimmy Swaggert…adultery, hypocrite, opulent lifestyle while crying broke on television

Bob Jones…Was one of the main “prophets” of the Kansas City Fellowship (The other being Mike Bickel). Despite being discredited in a sexual misconduct scandal in 1991 (Minister removed after confession of sexual misconduct, Olathe Daily News, 11/31/91), Bob Jones remains a “prophet” within the Vineyard. \

The list is endless…are you saying all of these groups are inherently evil?..corrupt?..should be disbanded? because of the deeds of these preachers and a few others that knew what they were doing? Well then what about all the good people in their ministries…are they bad as well?

Iowa Mike
 
Fergal said:
I am at a loss for words at this moment in time. I have within the last hour listened to an interview with a one Mr Dave Fanning regarding the film/documentary “Deliver Us From Evil” which is showing in selected cinemas about Ireland at present.

During his passioned anti-Catholic rant, Mr Faning goes on to refer to the Catholic Church as being Hell, as an organisation that is rotten to the core, as a crazy organisation and finally calls Mother Church evil incarnate.

Just have a listen to it and see the scandalous tirade he went on. Its as anti-Catholic as you can get. It can be heard in RealPlayer format on
rte.ie/radio1/marianfinucane/1084847.html Go up along to 1hr 42mins into the show for the shocking interview.

You may then register you protest / disgust to marian@rte.ie just as I have done.

For those of you in Ireland you can call the RTE complaint line on a Dublin number 01-2083434.
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im irish **** that irish drunk guy . i bet its an awesome movie. deliver us from evil jesus christ!
 
Iowa Mike , You say you condemm what has happened but your actions tell a different story, Think why i would say that and also think about what has gone on in Ireland that would make a person call the church what he did , think about this ,The bishop from the Diocese of Ferns Ireland whose actions lead to the enquiry there , Has a job in the archdiocese of Dubiln , Far from condemning him every person who helps pay his wage is supporting his actions there , Tell me how you can even think of proving other wise , About putting my post with yours that was some thing i had no controll over , I was quoting you but for some reason can out like it did , I tried to alter it but could not
 
michaelmac said:
Iowa Mike , You say you condemm what has happened but your actions tell a different story, Think why i would say that and also think about what has gone on in Ireland that would make a person call the church what he did , think about this ,The bishop from the Diocese of Ferns Ireland whose actions lead to the enquiry there , Has a job in the archdiocese of Dubiln , Far from condemning him every person who helps pay his wage is supporting his actions there , Tell me how you can even think of proving other wise , About putting my post with yours that was some thing i had no controll over , I was quoting you but for some reason can out like it did , I tried to alter it but could not
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Next time you need to put my remarks in quotation marks and your remarks below it. Just like I did in this reply.

I don’t know the details of this Irish Bishop but it doesn’t matter. I have no idea what you mean by my actions telling a different story. I can’t be more clear in my condemnation of the individuals guilty of these acts and anyone who supports them. The Church does not and did not support their actions so your condemnation of it makes no sense at all. Think about it…if a single member of a family commits a crime do you put the whole family in jail?

Iowa Mike
 
Iowa Mike , What is the church, The reason i ask is because , You make it sound like it is not part of this world
 
I wouldn’t call the Catholic Church “Evil Incarnate” but I do say that the Catholic church has many errors. I will not debate those errors on this thread though.
 
Holly3278 said:
I wouldn’t call the Catholic Church “Evil Incarnate” but I do say that the Catholic church has many errors. I will not debate those errors on this thread though.
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:yawn: :sleep: When you wanna debate it wake me up!
 
Holly3278 said:
I wouldn’t call the Catholic Church “Evil Incarnate” but I do say that the Catholic church has many errors. I will not debate those errors on this thread though.
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Holly,

Hit and run?

Iowa Mike
 
michaelmac said:
Iowa Mike , What is the church, The reason i ask is because , You make it sound like it is not part of this world
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Michaelmac:

The Church is Jesus Christ.

Matthew 16:16-19
16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. 17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-jonah: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father who is in heaven. 18 And I also say unto thee, that thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it. 19 I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
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In short Michaelmac…Christ’s Church cannot err only the people within her can. Don’t condemn Christ’s Church because of some errant members.

May the light of the risen Christ shine upon you this wonderful Easter day.

Iowa Mike
 
Fergal said:
I am at a loss for words at this moment in time. I have within the last hour listened to an interview with a one Mr Dave Fanning regarding the film/documentary “Deliver Us From Evil” which is showing in selected cinemas about Ireland at present.

During his passioned anti-Catholic rant, Mr Faning goes on to refer to the Catholic Church as being Hell,
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No - he was quoting; not giving his own opinion​

as an organisation that is rotten to the core, as a crazy organisation and finally calls Mother Church evil incarnate.

Just have a listen to it and see the scandalous tirade he went on. Its as anti-Catholic as you can get. It can be heard in RealPlayer format on
rte.ie/radio1/marianfinucane/1084847.html Go up along to 1hr 42mins into the show for the shocking interview.

You may then register you protest / disgust to marian@rte.ie just as I have done.

For those of you in Ireland you can call the RTE complaint line on a Dublin number 01-2083434.
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I’m not scandalised at all - filth, corruption, & downright evil deserve to be exposed fully, & dragged into the light, & called by their right names. :mad:​

And this is worse than “Suing the Pope” - Sean Fortune corrupted only 66 young people (five of whom committed suicide :(); the priest in this documentary has corrupted hundreds. What is “anti-Catholic” in calling evil evil ? Nothing whatever. :mad:* If* there is a God, the CC is in a hell of a lot of trouble.

Some people can’t face the truth 😦
 
I have already said this, but I see it needs to be repeated for a few ouf you. Should the teachings and writings of Christ’s Apostles be invalid or treated as “evil” for the evil actions of one of the Apostles(Judas)? By the way, do you know who wrote the four New Testament Gospels?:hmmm:
 
obedient2truth said:
I have already said this, but I see it needs to be repeated for a few ouf you. Should the teachings and writings of Christ’s Apostles be invalid or treated as “evil” for the evil actions of one of the Apostles(Judas)? By the way, do you know who wrote the four New Testament Gospels?:hmmm:
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No giv e us a big surprise!!!
Grace An gel.
 
Holly3278 said:
I wouldn’t call the Catholic Church “Evil Incarnate” but I do say that the Catholic church has many errors. I will not debate those errors on this thread though.
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Will also debate you concerning the ‘errors’ of the Church…
 
Secret archives , What is the need for these in Christian church ???
 
michaelmac said:
Secret archives , What is the need for these in Christian church ???
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That is just a name. They arent so secret. You can acess them on the Vatican website, and I know someone who saw them as part of a tour in Vatican City.
 
We have allready talked about them on this web site ,So can you tell me why Nobody can veiw the archives of these dates 1939 1945
 
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