Catholic Church forced to perform "gay marriages" in Denmark

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This isn’t fair to the church, and why get married at a place that’s forced to marry you? That’s gotta be awkward.
 
I thought the progressives said this wouldn’t happen, that they would respect individual churches conscience rights? Strange…
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A lot of big-government progressive promise things they don’t deliver on. Just ask Native Americans or some of the unions.

Just like when polygamy and marrying blow-up dolls happens, the “two consenting adults” crowd vanishes into thin air.
 
Oh, I just have a question:

Does this also apply to mosques? 😃
 
So is the Catholic Church being forced to do this or only Lutherans? Either way it is wrong. Nobody should be forced to perform “gay marriages”. However, if it is the Catholic Church being forced then I would be outraged simply because I am a Catholic. I would still be angry even if it was only the Lutherans though.
 
Holly3278 said:
So is the Catholic Church being forced to do this or only Lutherans? Either way it is wrong. Nobody should be forced to perform “gay marriages”. However, if it is the Catholic Church being forced then I would be outraged simply because I am a Catholic. I would still be angry even if it was only the Lutherans though.
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It’s only the Danish National Church, which is Lutheran. The Danish government can force this because it is a state affiliated church, like the Anglican Church is in England. But yes, this is still very wrong.
 
DaddyGirl said:
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The article says individual priests can choose not to perform the ceremony. That does not sound like “forcing”.
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But it is possible that the couple might sue the priest for “discrimination” against them for the fact that he refused to perform the ceremony on the grounds of his conservative opinion.
 
CatholicWhovian said:
But it is possible that the couple might sue the priest for “discrimination” against them for the fact that he refused to perform the ceremony on the grounds of his conservative opinion.
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I suppose anyone can sue anyone, but it doesn’t mean the suit has merit. A Lutheran priest declines to marry homosexuals on conscience grounds, the bishop arranges another priest to perform the ceremony. Everyone gets what they want. No one was discriminated against.
 
Many of the Lutheran priests and bishops in that country are in favour of same sex marriage. Give to Caesar and all that, it is their National Church.
I cannot see the Catholic Church accepting this law and we all would have to fight it. I hope some Lutherans will fight, but the battle has been lost in a lot of churches.
Personally I would like to see the government of America trying it on. It might spark a fire they may not be able to put out. At least it would show the nearly fatal division in the American Catholic church that bubbles away under the surface.
 
So the Lutheran Church in Denmark uses the terms priest and bishop? I think that’s where it gets confusing. Is there any response from the Catholic bishop in Denmark?
 
The title of this thread is manifestly disproven and wrong, and the mods should take it down lest people be misled.
 
ltwin said:
I suppose anyone can sue anyone, but it doesn’t mean the suit has merit. A Lutheran priest declines to marry homosexuals on conscience grounds, the bishop arranges another priest to perform the ceremony. Everyone gets what they want. No one was discriminated against.
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Yup, just like when private business owners here in the US conscientiously object on religious grounds and the homosexuals simply go patronize another establishment.

Oh wait…
 
Things are a little chaotic out there right now, and gay rights has gained a lot of momentum, but I believe that religious liberties will be maintained in the long run.

LOVE! ❤️
 
Robert_Sock said:
Things are a little chaotic out there right now, and gay rights has gained a lot of momentum, but I believe that religious liberties will be maintained in the long run.

LOVE! ❤️
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This is true in so far as in the long run God wins, no questions asked. However, the movement has gained so much momentum that I expect there will be several generations before the true affects of what they’ve done will become really noticeable… and then many more until they’ll be acted upon; after all, it only took about a generation for use to quantifiable show how bad no-fault divorce has been for society, but people still keep their heads up their bums about it and ignore the issue… so it can’t really be considered acted upon yet.
 
This is actually been in coming for a while. Because the Danish Church is state-funded (via a Church tax) it is under the thumb of government laws.
McCall1981 said:
It’s only the Danish National Church, which is Lutheran. The Danish government can force this because it is a state affiliated church, like the Anglican Church is in England. But yes, this is still very wrong.
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I think the compromise was that individual priests could refuse to carry out a ceremony but the bishop would then have to find another priest willing to do it.

Contrast that thought (as long as some priest can do it, your rights are protected) with how rights are enforced in the US (if any pharmacist refuses to dispense abortifacients, your rights are denied). A more innocuous example was the ruling that for hotels to be ADA compliant, they would have to install wheelchair lifts in every swimming pool, or close the pool. A lot of hotels simply closed their pools until they could put together the funds to install one. We saw that in our travels last summer, where we’d want to use the pool but couldnt because they didn’t have a wheelchair lift, so no guests were allowed to use the pool.

I think the closest they can reasonably get in the US is to say “If you want to be tax-exempt, you must extend equal protection to all, including performing gay marriages and allowing women to be priests.” At which point the Church would drop the tax-exempt status, which might be a good thing, and bishops could be free to excommunicate anti-life Catholic senators and rail against the government.
 
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