Catholic Church in the UK

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Do you think that the Catholic Church in the UK will begin to grow more now, since the Papal visit was a success. No flaming please!. Could we see two distinct but similar western Rites in the UK (The Anglican and Roman Catholic branches).
 
Hi, While the Pope’s meeting with Anglican leaders was cordial, I’m not sure if we’ll soon see two distinct rites. The Pope has made it easier for disaffected Anglicans to enter into the church. However, it seems like most Anglicans are happy with the status quo of ordaining women and openly gay bishops. Unfortunately, this might make future ecumenical efforts difficult. I hope this is not the case though. I sincerely hope the Pope’s visit will reinvigorate the church in the U.K. It might take some time, but hopefully the Pope’s message will strengthen the faith of British Catholics.
 
Yep! after three years of absense me and the wife have decided to go back home. because of the papal visit
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I am an American Catholic living in London, so if I may add in my two cents.

I do think the trip was a success. I had feared otherwise though. But frankly, England is clearly post Christian in outlook. People “sort of kind of believe” in God, but it is a God so removed from what a Christian, Jew, Muslim or Hindu would recognize as theism to be well, non-theist. Maybe it is my neighborhood (Notting Hill) but it seems that except for a handful of Anglican converts, most of the parish are either (i) residents of EU countries living in London (my church has a Portugese Mass every Sunday), (ii) immigrants from former English colonies (a few old Irish, as well as lots of younger Caribean immigrants) and (iii) Americans. Nothing that I have seen shows any real and meaningful revival of the “old religion” here. In fact, Anglicanism seems iself to be dying. Most white Britons it seems go to church for weddings and funerals (not even ashes and palms or holidays) and those seem to be heading off in alternative directions.

Sorry to be so pessimistic, and pray to God that I am wrong.
 
Do you think that the Catholic Church in the UK will begin to grow more now, since the Papal visit was a success. No flaming please!. Could we see two distinct but similar western Rites in the UK (The Anglican and Roman Catholic branches).
Firstly,
I have to say that I have read much of what the Pope said during the visit, and those words can but only encourage and strengthen the faithful present, and cause any thinking person to be more considerate towards the Catholic Faith. The latter note is certainly the benefit of a theologian-Pope, as he demonstrates the rigorous and vibrant intellectualism that Catholicism has always fostered and borne.

Secondly,
The mainstream press is highly unlikely to give the public open or easy access to what the Pope actually said. It’s simply not in their interest to. Here in Canada, the Globe and Mail - a major and nationally distributed paper - did a brazenly perverted and biased spin on the Pope’s few words with the Queen, and carried the lie that the Pope is somehow personally responsible for what the paper called “mass child-rape.” The tactic was most perverted, as it used a “What he said, but what it really meant” (as if the Holy Father was prone to using double-speak in order to deceive people) format. If the Globe and Mail in Canada is any indication to how the general press will present the Pope’s message, then unfortunately it is unlikely to have widespread benefit for the secular public’s image of the Catholic Church.

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I too was excited about the idea of an Anglican Rite being formed in the wider Catholic Church Family. I have personally met many devout Catholics from the Anglican fold, and they too seem excited about this idea. The problem is, however, my hopes and enthusiasm was sadly tempered - even to the point of concerned alarm - when certain folks who are anything but friendly to the Papacy took a perverse interest in the idea of an Anglican Rite within the Catholic Church. After speaking with a certain fellow, it seems some dangerous fellows are highly interested in the possibility of present Anglican clergy becoming “Papable” someday ; i.e., there’s a desire by certain fellows to exploit the hierarchy in hopes, or in order to, possibly sneak in, as it were, someone they “have pull with” (in a manner of speaking) into the Papacy. This, I assure you, would not be a good thing for the Church or even Christianity.

When all is said and done though, we are blessed indeed to have Pope Benedict at the helm, especially in light of the rise of militant atheism and secularism. If anyone can argue effectively the dangers these philosophies present to the world, then it is he ; if anyone can convert even the embittered and militantly hostile secularists, it is again he.

Pax,
Tim
 
Ten percent of the people of Great Britain are Roman Catholic. That means that there already are two churches with similar traditions, and somewhat similar Rites.

There have always been Roman Catholic’s in all parts of Great Britain. The Anglicans and the Church of Scotland were never able to totally suppress the Roman Catholic Church.

Up until the 20th century, Roman Catholics were not allowed to enter most professions, etc. But that did NOT stop people from being Roman Catholic. They kept their faith, in spite of the horrible obstacles they had to overcome (not the least of which was that they had to pay to support the Anglican Church, and they still do).

The Anglican Church is rapidly dying in Britain. Less than 10% of the people attend Church with any regularity (most get baptized, married and they are buried from a church, but they don’t go in between). The Roman Catholic Church has been growing, and it will continue to do so.
 
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