Catholic church lays down dress code

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thechrismyster said:
its exactly about regulating dress. that is why its a dress code.

if i choose to wear jeans, thats my choice.not better or worse than your choice to wear slacks.

because your cotton stitch is called a docker and mine is a looser weave and is called denim, there is right and wrong in that?
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The right and wrong in it is this: Are your jeans the best clothes you have to wear? If you were invited to a wedding, would you wear jeans?

Dress codes for Church are no enforceable, they would bascially be guidelines and you could easily choose to ignore it. However, again, we are to give Christ our very best in all things. If jeans are the best pants you have, then that is your best and that is fine.
 
thechrismyster said:
its exactly about regulating dress. that is why its a dress code.

if i choose to wear jeans, thats my choice.not better or worse than your choice to wear slacks.

because your cotton stitch is called a docker and mine is a looser weave and is called denim, there is right and wrong in that?
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The point is this: in today’s culture people wear their best clothes for human events, but wear far lesser quality clothes when they are with Jesus Christ. That is a problem because it shows a lack of proper priority. God should be first, not second.
 
lets compare…

in regards to mens slacks…
they are 100% cotton usually, tight stitch. black.
they are considered dress slacks.

in regards to my jeans,
they are 100% cotton, medium stitch denim weave, black.
they are considered jeans.

so what you’re saying is that stitching and weave makes one cotton pants OK for the Lord, and one stitch pattern (denim), made of the same material (cotton), is not as good a choice.

ok, that makes sense. :rolleyes:

subjective reasoning for what is and isn’t proper dress. i love arbitrary rules.
 
thechrismyster said:
lets compare…

in regards to mens slacks…
they are 100% cotton usually, tight stitch. black.
they are considered dress slacks.

in regards to my jeans,
they are 100% cotton, medium stitch denim weave, black.
they are considered jeans.

so what you’re saying is that stitching and weave makes one cotton pants OK for the Lord, and one stitch pattern (denim), made of the same material (cotton), is not as good a choice.

ok, that makes sense. :rolleyes:

subjective reasoning for what is and isn’t proper dress. i love arbitrary rules.
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If I invited you to my wedding, would you wear jeans? (hint: it is a yes or not answer)
 
Finally somebody is making modesty the seriousness it should be.
 
Personally, I think the way some people dress for church can cause an occaision for sin. It encourages some people to start being judgemental when they should be focusing on their own sins.
 
Tom317 said:
If I invited you to my wedding, would you wear jeans? (hint: it is a yes or not answer)
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If I was invited to your wedding, I would not wear jeans because I imagine that the bride and groom might be offended. However, when I go to mass, I am going to worship God. Now is God offended if I wear jeans? My guess is that my wearing jeans is the last thing that he is concerned with about me.
 
stinkcat_14 said:
If I was invited to your wedding, I would not wear jeans because I imagine that the bride and groom might be offended. However, when I go to mass, I am going to worship God. Now is God offended if I wear jeans? My guess is that my wearing jeans is the last thing that he is concerned with about me.
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I would not be so sure if I were you. By wearing higher quality clothes to my wedding, and not to Mass, you are saying God is not worth the same effort. Do not forget about the parables of wedding feast, as follows:

And again Jesus spoke to them in parables, saying, 2 "The kingdom of heaven may be compared to a king who gave a marriage feast for his son, 3 and sent his servants to call those who were invited to the marriage feast; but they would not come. 4 Again he sent other servants, saying, ‘Tell those who are invited, Behold, I have made ready my dinner, my oxen and my fat calves are killed, and everything is ready; come to the marriage feast.’ 5 But they made light of it and went off, one to his farm, another to his business, 6 while the rest seized his servants, treated them shamefully, and killed them. 7 The king was angry, and he sent his troops and destroyed those murderers and burned their city. 8 Then he said to his servants, ‘The wedding is ready, but those invited were not worthy. 9 Go therefore to the thoroughfares, and invite to the marriage feast as many as you find.’ 10* And those servants went out into the streets and gathered all whom they found, both bad and good; so the wedding hall was filled with guests. 11 “But when the king came in to look at the guests, he saw there a man who had no wedding garment; 12 and he said to him, ‘Friend, how did you get in here without a wedding garment?’ And he was speechless. 13 Then the king said to the attendants, ‘Bind him hand and foot, and cast him into the outer darkness; there men will weep and gnash their teeth.’ 14 For many are called, but few are chosen.” ***

While there are many interpretations of this passage, one of the messages is that we are to give proper respect and homage to the King by being properly dressed (Jesus is our King).
 
stinkcat_14 said:
If I was invited to your wedding, I would not wear jeans because I imagine that the bride and groom might be offended. However, when I go to mass, I am going to worship God. Now is God offended if I wear jeans? My guess is that my wearing jeans is the last thing that he is concerned with about me.
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God is going to look what is in your heart. Now a truly pure heart would not purposely serve as a distraction to others, would they? In addition what example do you set for the youngsters? Is this example pure?

So in effect your choice of clothing has an effect on others and if it efects the opportunity for another to worship purely, then it may offend Him.
 
Overheard at Mass in 1956:
“Oh my, Henry…she’s wearing p-p-p-pants at Mass!!!. And her head is uncovered!! I can see her toes too…and they’re *painted *!!! Some people just have no shame.”

Fashion and sensibilities change. What shocked Grandma’s pastor is worn by nuns now. Almost any woman at a Mass in the US last Sunday would have been a scandal two generations ago. Many men too. With what norms should we judge modesty? 2007? 1957? 1907? Or maybe 1807?

I’m more offended by the disheveled sloppiness I see all around me at Mass and hope its gone about as far as it can. We Americans just don’t know how dress very well anymore, period. We’ve let pop culture turn us to a nation of slobs, and age is no assurance of modesty or good taste.
 
buffalo said:
God is going to look what is in your heart. Now a truly pure heart would not purposely serve as a distraction to others, would they? In addition what example do you set for the youngsters? Is this example pure?

So in effect your choice of clothing has an effect on others and if it efects the opportunity for another to worship purely, then it may offend Him.
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Is wearing jeans anymore of a distraction than wearing a suit? Some people might look at me in a suit and say: who is he trying to impress?

I don’t see where my wearing jeans to mass would be either pure or impure. There is nothing wrong with wearing jeans.
 
stinkcat_14 said:
Is wearing jeans anymore of a distraction than wearing a suit? Some people might look at me in a suit and say: who is he trying to impress?

I don’t see where my wearing jeans to mass would be either pure or impure. There is nothing wrong with wearing jeans.
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If you really feel that way, then I suppose you would wear jeans to my wedding? Correct?
 
If jeans are so wonderful to wear to Mass, then it must be okay for a Priest/Bishop/Cardinal/Pope to say Mass in their Churches/Cathedrals while wearings jeans and t-shirt. Correct?

And, our President should be able to meet with foreign heads of state in shorts and and tank top. Correct?
 
Tom317 said:
If jeans are so wonderful to wear to Mass, then it must be okay for a Priest/Bishop/Cardinal/Pope to say Mass in their Churches/Cathedrals while wearings jeans and t-shirt. Correct?

And, our President should be able to meet with foreign heads of state in shorts and and tank top. Correct?
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The Church has regulations as to what a priest should wear while saying mass. Of course, there is no regulation that says a priest cannot wear jeans and t-shirts underneath his vestments. The church has no regulation against lay individuals wearing jeans to mass. Until they do have such regulations, the decision is up to the conscience of the individual.
 
buffalo said:
If that suit was my Sunday best then I would reply I am trying to impress God and serve as an example to others.
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What is God more impressed with, the quality of your clothes or the state of your soul? What is a more important example to set for others: to dress fashionably or to live a holy life?
 
stinkcat_14 said:
What is God more impressed with, the quality of your clothes or the state of your soul? What is a more important example to set for others: to dress fashionably or to live a holy life?/quote

He is most concerned with the state of your soul and the Catholic Faith is a faith based on example. Many people’s Sunday best is not of the highest quality, but it is the best offering they have for God.
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stinkcat_14 said:
The Church has regulations as to what a priest should wear while saying mass. Of course, there is no regulation that says a priest cannot wear jeans and t-shirts underneath his vestments. The church has no regulation against lay individuals wearing jeans to mass. Until they do have such regulations, the decision is up to the conscience of the individual.
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stinkcat_14 said:
The Church has regulations as to what a priest should wear while saying mass. Of course, there is no regulation that says a priest cannot wear jeans and t-shirts underneath his vestments.
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So what? You seem to think that clothing does not matter, so using your view our clergy should be able to wear whatever they want. After all, it is just silly rules they will be breaking. Correct?
The church has no regulation against lay individuals wearing jeans to mass. Until they do have such regulations, the decision is up to the conscience of the individual.
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Not quite. The Catechism has this to say:

1387 To prepare for worthy reception of this sacrament, the faithful should observe the fast required in their Church. Bodily demeanor (gestures, clothing) ought to convey the respect, solemnity, and joy of this moment when Christ becomes our guest.

You would likely NOY wear jeans to a wedding, but you think it conveys respect and solenity to our Lord to wear jeans when you attend His Holy Mass. I realize you feel convinced that wearing jeans to Mass is fine. I also realize there is nothing anyone can say to change your view, and that is fine. I will only challenge you (and others) to pray and think about this issue and truthfully ask yourself if you would wear higher quality clothes for humans, then you would for God, and if you do that, what does it say about your priorities (is God first, above all humans).

Take care and God Bless

(Ascribe to the LORD the glory of his name; worship the LORD in holy array.)
 
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