Catholic colleges tell poor kids to go elsewhere

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Costs at good colleges are crazy, no doubt about it. At the same time, it would seem an offense against justice to have some parents pay $80,000 per year in order for someone else to pay $10,000.
 
I’m not sure what your system is, but apparently over here the teachers’ wages in Catholic schools are still paid by the state. The college has to find money for other things, but I suspect that costs on parents are a lot lower than they are in the US.

It’s part of being a bit socialistic. I’m somewhat bemused by the American abhorrence of anything that reeks of being just the least bit socialistic, even when its for the common good.
 
WilT said:
Our Catholic Institution has lost track of it’s mission to the poor and forgotten. I hope with Pope Francis they can get their priorities set.😦

St Francis…rebuild Christ’s Church!!!

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Is anyone surprised by this? When Catholic elementary school runs from 8-12 grand a year…:hypno: The High Schools from 12-15 annually. Crazy talk.

Catholic schools feel the need to compete with toney private schools. It’s a real shame. AND, they still pay their teachers poorly. Go figure. 🤷
 
Education is costly. It always has been.

It is in part, to defray that cost that civil states have gotten into the business of operating schools. And at the collegiate level, in NA, one can get a great education indeed by taking the state-university route.

If one wants the added value of an education in one’s religious tradition, it is going to cost more. Full stop.

And while helping the poor is part of the Church’s mission, penalizing the nonpoor to do it is not what it is called to do, IMNAAHO.

ICXC NIKA.
 
pianistclare said:
Is anyone surprised by this? When Catholic elementary school runs from 8-12 grand a year…:hypno: The High Schools from 12-15 annually.
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They didn’t when the nuns and brothers taught there. Just sayin…
 
WilT said:
Our Catholic Institution has lost track of it’s mission to the poor and forgotten. I hope with Pope Francis they can get their priorities set.😦

St Francis…rebuild Christ’s Church!!!

time.com/3642216/catholic-college-admissions-tuition-financial-aid/
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The article talks a lot about CUA. CUA is unique in that it isn’t run by an order - it is actually owned by the Church, through the USCCB. That means they don’t have the back support of a religious order or a lay corporation. In order to increase financial aid, they need to increase their endowment. That means that alumni and supporters need to pony up some big bucks. Those are the people that need to “get their priorities set”.
 
ProVobis said:
They didn’t when the nuns and brothers taught there. Just sayin…
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Yeah, but new car was around $2000. a cup of coffee costs a dime, and a post card could be mailed for a penny when nuns and brothers taught in Catholic schools, so that doesn’t carry much weight!

Peace and all Good!
 
Bob_Crowley said:
I’m not sure what your system is, but apparently over here the teachers’ wages in Catholic schools are still paid by the state. The college has to find money for other things, but I suspect that costs on parents are a lot lower than they are in the US.

It’s part of being a bit socialistic. I’m somewhat bemused by the American abhorrence of anything that reeks of being just the least bit socialistic, even when its for the common good.
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No, in the US none of the teachers wages are paid by the government in any private school. They are indirectly paid by the government in state universities but Catholic schools have to fund everything including faculty salaries and benefits from income that comes from tuition, investments of their endowments, donations, athletics, etc.
 
Neofight said:
Yeah, but new car was around $2000. a cup of coffee costs a dime, and a post card could be mailed for a penny when nuns and brothers taught in Catholic schools, so that doesn’t carry much weight!

Peace and all Good!
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Those poor women worked for 3 hots and a cot. (and nylons). :rolleyes:
I’ll bet people wish they had been nicer to the good sisters.
 
Far be it from me to criticize the Catholic University of America, so I will refrain from commenting.
 
Tarpeian_Rock said:
Costs at good colleges are crazy, no doubt about it. At the same time, it would seem an offense against justice to have some parents pay $80,000 per year in order for someone else to pay $10,000.
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They charge it because people will pay it.

As online colleges gain more traction, these types of exorbitant fees from brick and mortar colleges will go the way of the Dodo.
 
Neofight said:
Yeah, but new car was around $2000. a cup of coffee costs a dime, and a post card could be mailed for a penny when nuns and brothers taught in Catholic schools, so that doesn’t carry much weight!
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A couple of pennies was about all they charged for tuition, though. But then we had to sell donuts, Christmas cards, raffle tickets, or whatnot, to pay for the rest of it. Fortunately no nuns had new cars.
 
Bob_Crowley said:
I’m not sure what your system is, but apparently over here the teachers’ wages in Catholic schools are still paid by the state. The college has to find money for other things, but I suspect that costs on parents are a lot lower than they are in the US.
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That’s not quite accurate. Looking at Victoria, Catholic schools get about 70% of their funding from the government and 30% from other sources. They operate on about 90% of the budget of state schools. The government only indirectly pays for teachers by providing the majority of funding, but it is up to the schools to determine how that money is actually spent.

My understanding is that generally Catholic teachers earn less than their state counterparts.

Just an FYI.

I won’t comment how costs for a Catholic college should be determined. The entire university structure in the US seems insane to me. Our university fees are regulated. My three year Bachelor at a well respected university cost me about $20 000. Would have cost the same (or close to) regardless of where I went. Cost didn’t even factor into my decision when deciding where to do. The idea of having to “go away” for university also strikes me as odd too. Why add more costs on when you don’t have to? Ditto for a “religous” university. Unless you’re studying religion… I don’t get the point. Different culture I suppose.
 
ProVobis said:
A couple of pennies was about all they charged for tuition, though. But then we had to sell donuts, Christmas cards, raffle tickets, or whatnot, to pay for the rest of it. Fortunately no nuns had new cars.
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I remember selling those Christmas stamps/ Easter seals. We got little glow in the dark Mary’s as prizes.
My tuition in 9th grade was $15 a month.
My daughters’ monthly tuition at Catholic Elementary school was 450 per month each. 8 years ago. I taught at the school. Earned less than 26 grand a year. Master’s Degree and all.
Worked 15 hrs overtime weekly at the parish.
Paid no overtime by the school. The Church said it was the schools fault. The school said it was the parish’s fault.
Yeah, it’s a joy. :coffeeread:
 
pianistclare said:
Is anyone surprised by this? When Catholic elementary school runs from 8-12 grand a year…:hypno: The High Schools from 12-15 annually. Crazy talk.

Catholic schools feel the need to compete with toney private schools. It’s a real shame. AND, they still pay their teachers poorly. Go figure. 🤷
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How is a Catholic family with six children supposed to be able to afford Catholic schools, when the husband works at Walmart?
 
Tomdstone said:
How is a Catholic family with six children supposed to be able to afford Catholic schools, when the husband works at Walmart?
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Our old school is mostly populated with non-Catholics that want private school.
They have checks that don’t bounce, God bless them. 😊
 
I might be mistaken, but I think at “my parish” if I can call it that. (the parish nearest to me)… they find a way to get kids into school no matter the financial limitations of the Catholic Parents…is that rare or common in the U.S. at parochial schools? I think that is the case there but I can’t say 100% certain.
 
JamalChristophr said:
I might be mistaken, but I think at “my parish” if I can call it that. (the parish nearest to me)… they find a way to get kids into school no matter the financial limitations of the Catholic Parents…is that rare or common in the U.S. at parochial schools? I think that is the case there but I can’t say 100% certain.
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Oh, there are many places where they operate well. Sadly, it’s not across the board.

The big difference is that there are still PARISH affiliated schools, that often have the Pastor in a key advisory role, so the outlook is geared toward the faithful families.
Whereas there is in recent years a trend towards Private or Regional Catholic schools, which have no parish connected to them, and no priests or religious on the Boards. They are run like businesses.
 
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