Catholic colleges tell poor kids to go elsewhere

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pianistclare said:
Oh, there are many places where they operate well. Sadly, it’s not across the board.

The big difference is that there are still PARISH affiliated schools, that often have the Pastor in a key advisory role, so the outlook is geared toward the faithful families.
Whereas there is in recent years a trend towards Private or Regional Catholic schools, which have no parish connected to them, and no priests or religious on the Boards.** They are run like businesses**.
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That seems a most unsavory bit of news to stomach. 😦

Where I grew up, though, I never myself went to a Catholic school, it was sad to see in the last decade or two a huge number of Catholic Schools simply close their doors for good.
 
ProVobis said:
They didn’t when the nuns and brothers taught there. Just sayin…
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Yep, and nuns also taught classes with a high number of students in them to keep tuition costs down at the high school my mother attended a long time ago. I went to the same school 20 years later and there was not one nun teaching anymore. The principal was indeed a priest.

Mary.
 
I ended up not going to a Catholic University because of affordability.

It wasn’t so bad and maybe it was for the best(silver lining to every cloud). For starters,I wasn’t an exceptional student who deserved a full ride. The public transport system was more accessible from my home(big plus as a commuter student). Furthermore I saved a lot by living at home and not getting loans. And guess what’s right across from the Transit Center-a Newman Center ! 😃

Granted,there’s trade offs like not experiencing the smaller class sizes and missing out on a Catholic culture but like what a friend told me-“you can’t have everything.” Though just because a university has a wonderful Catholic heritage doesn’t mean it’s ardently Catholic now(though hopefully that’s not the case) and even with a vibrant Catholic culture students may still end up leaving the church.

Plus many Catholic Universities don’t have super endowments like the Ivies. Perhaps with time and the growth of Fundraising and Development career sectors,things could change.

Personally I hope there’s support for organizations like FOCUS,Newman Centers,and Catholic Faith-based partnerships with public schools(maybe they can even have abstinence programs there). Even if Catholic Schools were more widely available(even tuition for all),some Catholic students would most likely end up in public schools.
 
In Australia. My friend (a devout Church going Catholic) was told there was no spaces left at a school near him. He totally accepted the situation, until he saw hindu kids attending the school.
 
On a related note,how would you guys find this motto(meant for humour).

“Catholic Schools are a great equalizer -making rich families poor since -insert year-”

Have a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year everyone.
 
pianistclare said:
Is anyone surprised by this? When Catholic elementary school runs from 8-12 grand a year…:hypno: The High Schools from 12-15 annually. Crazy talk.
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Wow. Catholic elementary schools in this diocese run 4-5 thousand per year, with discounts for siblings. High school is about the same as for you.
 
ProVobis said:
They didn’t when the nuns and brothers taught there. Just sayin…
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One local Catholic school is staffed by sisters. There are 6 sisters in the school, one of whom is principal. The order is paid a full salary for each of the sisters and tuition is comparable to other Catholic schools in the area. Things are different now, even when schools have nuns.
 
We got knocked out of a catholic school when they put the fees up by nearly $1000 in a year. Literally increased the fees by nearly that amount over the previous year(s) fees. The explanation was ‘oh well, fees go up, this is normal’. It was a too difficult normal for us…
 
MaryT777 said:
Yep, and nuns also taught classes with a high number of students in them to keep tuition costs down at the high school my mother attended a long time ago. I went to the same school 20 years later and there was not one nun teaching anymore. The principal was indeed a priest.

Mary.
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The public school only allow 20 kids per class, so parents have come to believe that anything more is bad for the children.
When I registered my youngest for Catholic School, the class was over-full, but the seasoned principal told us to go to the Open House anyway. She said that when the parents see that there are 32 kids in there, about a dozen will leave, and my little girl would have a desk. They did, and she did.
Parents desire computer science, professional Athletic Directors, and lots of expensive technology, and the school needs an IT guy to manage it all.
I remember as DRE, a group of parents got together and suggested that if we got rid of weekly Mass we could squeeze in an extra Math session for all grades.
Pressures. Everyone genuinely thinks their kids are going to college on soccer scholarships to Harvard. :rolleyes:
The faith is secondary for many people. Not all, I’ve heard stories here from people who have wonderful Catholic schools run by wonderful people and supported by great Pastors.
but the local school today, has a motto of: Blank blank school exists to uphold Catholic traditions.
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I think the bottom line is, in one respect, that some institutes of Catholic Education are operated and managed with the Mind of Christ, but it seems most are not these days. The religious may not be at all invovled and the powers that be may be totally secular in the way they run the school, whether it be elementary or at the university level.
 
I don’t know how accurate the article is.

My niece goes to George Washington U in DC, and her tuition is closer to $25,000, not the $17,000 they have listed.

Jim
 
JimR-OCDS said:
I don’t know how accurate the article is.

My niece goes to George Washington U in DC, and her tuition is closer to $25,000, not the $17,000 they have listed.

Jim
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I think that is the cost after aid; some students get more or less aid.
 
SWolf said:
They charge it because people will pay it.

As online colleges gain more traction, these types of exorbitant fees from brick and mortar colleges will go the way of the Dodo.
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Online colleges are very expensive. They charge more per hour than brick and mortar because the student is saving money in travel and living expenses. I have the parent plus loans to prove it.
 
JamalChristophr said:
I think the bottom line is, in one respect, that some institutes of Catholic Education are operated and managed with the Mind of Christ, but it seems most are not these days. The religious may not be at all invovled and the powers that be may be totally secular in the way they run the school, whether it be elementary or at the university level.
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Corki said:
No, in the US none of the teachers wages are paid by the government in any private school. They are indirectly paid by the government in state universities but Catholic schools have to fund everything including faculty salaries and benefits from income that comes from tuition, investments of their endowments, donations, athletics, etc.
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And this is despite the fact the parents of the students in those schools pay taxes just as much as anybody else?
 
Bob_Crowley said:
And this is despite the fact the parents of the students in those schools pay taxes just as much as anybody else?
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yes. Candidates who advocate vouchers for parents of private school children gain a little traction every election year, but it never goes through.
 
Bob_Crowley said:
And this is despite the fact the parents of the students in those schools pay taxes just as much as anybody else?
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Some of the Catholic clergy are opposed to vouchers because they believe that it would introduce a certain amount of unwanted government interference.
 
pianistclare said:
I remember as DRE, a group of parents got together and suggested that if we got rid of weekly Mass we could squeeze in an extra Math session for all grades.
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IOW, they couldn’t find a way to sneak in some math lessons into the sermon? 🙂

Have a Merry Christmas, all!
 
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