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Lisa4Catholics
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Get him:tsktsk:
The mods don’t like that ALBERT!
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The mods don’t like that ALBERT!
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Ani_Ibi
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Temporary hijack of thread. (Sorry.)
A lot has been happening with respect to the brain-damaged Florida woman named Terri Schiavo. Here is a link to the CBC news page which summarizes the events to date.
cbc.ca/story/world/national/2005/03/18/schavio-subpeonas050318.html
Ms Schiavo has been subpoenaed to appear before
Congress. Judge Greer may be charged with contempt of Congress for reinstating a measure which will harm (kill) Ms Schiavo and interfere with her ability to appear before Congress. (Her death by starvation will definitely
interfere with her ability to do anything.)
Please consider forwarding the following link to those
Catholics you know. And please consider signing the
petition on this link so that Judge Greer may be
impeached for bending over backwards to end the life of
Terri Schiavo.
Many of us ordinary folk feel really up
against the wall with the Culture of Death and it may
take a lot of different things to bring people to their
senses. If you yourself do not feel it is your role to
sign the petition perhaps you would be kind enough to
pass along the link to those you know.
The petition is detailed and self-explanatory.
petitiononline.com/ijg520/
Thank you for taking the time to read this. God
bless, Maureen.
A lot has been happening with respect to the brain-damaged Florida woman named Terri Schiavo. Here is a link to the CBC news page which summarizes the events to date.
cbc.ca/story/world/national/2005/03/18/schavio-subpeonas050318.html
Ms Schiavo has been subpoenaed to appear before
Congress. Judge Greer may be charged with contempt of Congress for reinstating a measure which will harm (kill) Ms Schiavo and interfere with her ability to appear before Congress. (Her death by starvation will definitely
interfere with her ability to do anything.)
Please consider forwarding the following link to those
Catholics you know. And please consider signing the
petition on this link so that Judge Greer may be
impeached for bending over backwards to end the life of
Terri Schiavo.
Many of us ordinary folk feel really up
against the wall with the Culture of Death and it may
take a lot of different things to bring people to their
senses. If you yourself do not feel it is your role to
sign the petition perhaps you would be kind enough to
pass along the link to those you know.
The petition is detailed and self-explanatory.
petitiononline.com/ijg520/
Thank you for taking the time to read this. God
bless, Maureen.
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John_Yurich
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vern humphrey,
The reason that I do not give the salary away is because I am not a millionaire. Bush is a multi-millionaire and therefore he does not need the presidential salary. Bush is greedy for money and that is why he does not give away the presidential salary. Kennedy was a multi-millionaire but he was not greedy for money and that is the reason why he gave the presidential salary away.
John
The reason that I do not give the salary away is because I am not a millionaire. Bush is a multi-millionaire and therefore he does not need the presidential salary. Bush is greedy for money and that is why he does not give away the presidential salary. Kennedy was a multi-millionaire but he was not greedy for money and that is the reason why he gave the presidential salary away.
John
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John_Yurich
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Lisa4Catholics,
A lot of other individuals joined CA Forums after Kopsho was suspended and you do not think that any of them are Kopsho. So what makes you think that I am Kopsho?
John
A lot of other individuals joined CA Forums after Kopsho was suspended and you do not think that any of them are Kopsho. So what makes you think that I am Kopsho?
John
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Ani_Ibi
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*Temporary hijack of thread with apologies. **Fitz has asked us to click on this link and vote. It is an MSNBC poll on Terri. We need to make our presence known.
msnbc.msn.com/id/3080261/*
PLEASE** VOTE! **
LOOK AT THESE FRIGHTENING RESULTS SO FAR (19 March 11:00 am):
Should Terri Schiavo be placed back on a feeding tube? ***** 4845 responses
**Yes **40%
No 60**%**
Please pass this poll around to other discussion boards, Christian tv and radio stations near you, and Catholics whom you know.
msnbc.msn.com/id/3080261/*
PLEASE** VOTE! **
LOOK AT THESE FRIGHTENING RESULTS SO FAR (19 March 11:00 am):
Should Terri Schiavo be placed back on a feeding tube? ***** 4845 responses
**Yes **40%
No 60**%**
Please pass this poll around to other discussion boards, Christian tv and radio stations near you, and Catholics whom you know.
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Ani_Ibi
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Here is a new poll which consolidates all the links to help Terri Schiavo:
forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=44580
forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=44580
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aspawloski4th
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john or properly albert. 3 reasons we know who you are. 1, the smile with teeth to start every post 2 your style of making your point. 3, you never make a post to address what I(aspawloski4th) said. Ive been around too long to be fooled by the likes of you.
on the terri schiavo case <ive called my 2 senators for what is worth, they are both ardent proabortionists.
on the terri schiavo case <ive called my 2 senators for what is worth, they are both ardent proabortionists.
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goravens
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Just as a side note to this, Senator Sam Brownback, a Kansas Republican, gives away his salary yearly. He’s very strong in pro-life convictions and recently re-introduced the Unborn Child Pain Act. He’s also worked tirelessly to put an end to the fighting and human rights violations in the Sudan, stopping sexual slavery in our country, and procuring better funding for the poor. I hope that he’s someone Catholic democrats could see as a person with middle ground covering both major political parties and someone who is pro-life and fighting for life politically in many different ways. He’s also a Catholic convert.
John Yurich:
John Yurich:
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vern_humphrey
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John Yurich:
No president – or anyone else – has an obligation to give his salary away. President Bush does give to charity, and paid a higher percentage of his income to the IRS than Senator Kerry – who had a much larger income.
The reason that you do not give the salary away is because you have a double standard.
No president – or anyone else – has an obligation to give his salary away. President Bush does give to charity, and paid a higher percentage of his income to the IRS than Senator Kerry – who had a much larger income.
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CatholicforBush
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I would like to help clarify something for you. Please try and not listen to political propaganda about us Republicans and the poor. It is totally wrong. Here is why we disagree with the democrats about social programs. First of all they were invented right after social security when the most corrupt Mayor of all time Richard M Daily needed the black vote. He decided he would just create programs, and never allow the blacks to get off the programs. Sound familiar? I wish to support my own charities. I wish to research them, give to them and make sure that the money actually gets to the right people. You can’t do that when you are using your charity as taxation. How would you feel if some of your tax dollars went to Planned Parenthood, or medicaid that helped a poor woman get an abortion? There is a lot of proof that social programs run by the government are not successful. In fact they are keeping people dependent on them. Where is the dignity for the poor there? Where is the help for the poor to get out of their poverty if that is happening? Where is real obligation of giving to the poor being fulfilled if you only use your taxes as a means to give to the poor and you aren’t even making sure they are getting to the people that need the money most? Next, I am Catholic, so I know how important it is to give to the poor, care for them, support them, but not just the poor in our country, but all over the world, so I support outsourcing, because inevitably it helps the poorest of nations and it helps companies in our country hire more people here. (there is a lot of proof on this topic to support my statements). I know lots of Catholic Republicans, and we all feel the same way. So please try and understand that you can be a Democrat if you like, and give the way you choose. I don’t have to agree with you, it is not a sin if I don’t, and I am not evil. Finally, the one thing that we all must do is follow our Catechism, and for centuries our Catechism has stated that abortion is wrong, a mortal sin. If you vote for a candidate that helps someone obtain an abortion, what does that say about you?
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CatholicforBush
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Supporting the death penalty is not a mortal sin according to our Catechism, abortion is such a horrible atrocity you can be excommunicated for it. Take a look at the Catechism to clarify this for yourself. The reason the death penalty is allowed is because governments have an obligation to protect their populations from criminals that can’t be controlled in prison. Look at the list of murders in prisons. Look at the sex offenders that get out of prison, and where their crimes were not murder in the first place now they are. Can society defend it’s children against people like this? That is why the Catechism allows the death penalty.
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CatholicforBush
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When you are in the state of Mortal sin - you shouldn’t go to communion. If you think that Kerry is such a great Catholic, why didn’t he know that he could be excommunicated for supporting laws about abortion? Why does he still present himself for communion, even after his own Bishop told him not to. This is a good Catholic?
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eabrennan
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I was reading this thread you started and I wanted to post you a note to encourage you. There are many Catholic democrats. Most don’t post on forums like these. I’ve noticed that most of the folks in the Church who are actually “doin’ the stuff” – you know, feeding the hungry, finding housing for the homeless, caring for the abused, taking eucharist to the prisoners – those folks are almost uniformly Democrats. And mostly these folks are too busy “doin’ the stuff” to get involved in discussions with folks who “just don’t get it” and probably never will.
Last election, Pax Cristi took out a full page ad in our diocesian newspaper. All the folks who had donated money to fund the ad were listed – about 7 or 8 point type – and the list fully filled the background of the full page ad. Many of them were nuns and priests. Pax Cristi’s message for the election was pretty much the message that you were trying to convey in your posts on this thread.
You sound like you are on the right track. Welcome to the faith. If you want to find folks who see things more like you do, you might want to get involved in Parish Social Ministry or a Catholic Peace and Social Justice group in your area.
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felra
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Your above post sounds more like an indictment than an endorsement of “Catholic democrats”.
"Most [Catholic democrats]** don’t post on forums like these…these folks are too busy “doin’ the stuff” to get involved in discussions with folks who “just don’t get it” and probably never will."** … you basically shot yourself in the foot with this transparent statement.
What you and your social action folks need to do is hang out more at the CA forums to learn the faith, so that your social action may become truly faith in action. Don’t forget the words of Jesus to Martha when she complained that her sister Mary was not helping her with the preparation and serving others, “Martha, Martha, you are anxious and worried about many things. There is need of only one thing. Mary has chosen the better part and it will not be taken from her.”, Luke 11:38-42.
Have you ever considered that you social action “Catholic democrats” just don’t get it? *“Mary sat beside the Lord at his feet listening to him speak”. *
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GaryZak
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The meaning of this life has little to do with ,“WINNING ARGUEMENTS,” and popularity statistics… Or maybe you BELIEVE the Magisterium who SINCERELY want all thoughts to be of and only of REPUBLIC thought. Individual popular vote should never, at any junction, should press in thought any American thought… I am not tALING about religious Magisterium, I am referring to the Magisterium of WEALTHY folks… Always remember St. Maria Faustina was NOT wealthy, well, or WELL EDUCATED, yet IS IN HEAVEN…Then, again it has little to do with,”BEING SELFISHLY INDIGNIFIED…” In Florida they’re going to ,”PASS A LAW,” what’ll allow ,”LAW ABIDING CITIZENS,” to not even back down, when confronted, but wholeheartedly ENACT the climax of the Lord’s Justice, then and there with a Gun.
So Justice apart from the Lord, and all things of this world in reference to, and in contrast to, what they are,”to the Lord…” Your life in this World, for example, has what ,”VALUE to the Lord?” Selfishly, we should love it with all our,”hearts, souls, being, strength, and mind, so that we’ll be able to LOVE OUR NEIGHBORS???
Can,”WE truly be HAPPY,” by amassing a HUGE materialistic fortune? Similarly, can we,”TRULY BE HAPPY,” by understanding all material and chemical relationships in and of this world?
The ANTITHESIS of,”HAPPY,” is MISERY!
It has been made,”CLEAR to US,” if we REALLY, REALLY, don’t won’t to be happy, then we CAN CHOOSE HELL!
SIRACH 15:15 If you choose you can keep the commandments; it is loyalty to do his will.
JER 22:9 And the answer will be given: “Because they have deserted their covenant with the LORD, their God, by worshiping and serving strange gods.”
SIRACH 15:16 There are set before you fire and water; to whichever you choose, stretch forth your hand.
15:17 Before man are life and death,
whichever he chooses shall be given him.
15:18 Immense is the wisdom of the LORD;
he is mighty in power, and all-seeing.
PROV 1:20 Wisdom cries aloud in the street, in the open squares she raises her voice;
PROV 6:6 Go to the ant, O sluggard, study her ways and learn wisdom;
PROV 9:1 Wisdom has built her house, she has set up her seven columns;
PROV 14:1 Wisdom builds her house, but Folly tears hers down with her own hands.
SIRACH 1:18 The root of wisdom is fear of the LORD; her branches are length of days
. SIRACH 4:11 Wisdom instructs her children and admonishes those who seek her.
LK 7:35 But wisdom is vindicated by all her children."
• 24:31. They that explain me shall have life everlasting.
• SONG 2:1 I am a flower of Sharon, a lily of the valley.
in-dig-nant (in-dignnt)adj. Characterized by or filled with indignation. See Synonyms at angry.[Latin indignans, indignant-, present participle of indignari, to be indignant, from indignus, unworthy. See INDIGN.]–in-dig’nant-ly adv. in-dig-nant (in-dignnt).Marked by anger. adj.angry, indignant, choleric, ireful, cross, enraged, furious, in a pique, incensed, infuriated, irate, livid, mad, outraged, rabid, sore, wrathful.Antonyms: calm, placid, serene.
There exists SELFISHLY INDIGNANT and truly RIGHTEOUSLY INDIGNANT, aligned with the true disposition of the Lord…
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