Catholic group begins $9.7 million swing-state ad blitz against Joe Biden

[Motherwit]

A conservative-leaning Catholic group has launched a $9.7 million ad campaign against Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden, focusing on Catholic voters in battleground states across the country, according to The Hill.

CatholicVote, a national political advocacy group, will begin their campaign with a $350,000 digital ad buy in Michigan and Pennsylvania, which both have sizeable Catholic populations. The group, which has staffers in six states and “over 2,000 community captains representing unique Catholic parishes across these states,” aims to reach over 5 million Catholics across several swing states.

Catholic Group Launches $9.7 Million Ad Campaign Against Joe Biden - Business Insider

These Catholic non-profits generate vast sums of money and together have every capacity to support or create a party that reflects Christian values in a way we don’t have to compromise. I’m cynical that these wealthy non profits are actually really in it for God.

 

[Tis_Bearself]

I’m cynical that these wealthy non profits are actually really in it for God.

Joe Biden’s not in it for God either, so I think it’s an even match then

 

[cloistered]

Joe Biden is a Catholic in the political sphere as a Democrat, Catholic Vote is Republicans in the political sphere as Catholics.

 

[Motherwit]

Motherwit:

I’m cynical that these wealthy non profits are actually really in it for God.

Joe Biden’s not in it for God either, so I think it’s an even match then

But I’m saying that with the capacity to earn and influence that these mega wealthy Catholic non profits have why not support or create a party with a platform that truly reflects the virtues and values that we all agree upon? Many Catholics like myself don’t regard Trump as the savior of the unborn but rather an exploiter of the issue for personal gain.

 

[cloistered]

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[stpurl]

Rather ask why there has not been been a viable third party in the last 150 plus years. It’s all well and good to say that a party can be created (there are already third parties out there with a platform in keeping with Catholic beliefs). . . But even with vast infusions of money that would not be sufficient.

Bernie Sanders to all intents and purposes is a third party candidate; he is neither Democrat nor Republican, though closer to Democrat (Democrat-socialist). Despite a significant support base and funds, that wasn’t sufficient to get him a position as a viable candidate. Neither was it the case for Ross Perot back in the day, etc.

I don’t say that a Third Party may not rise at some point to make presidential races ‘three way’, but it will take many years for this to happen. And that ‘third party’ may very well not have “Catholic beliefs’ in it. For many in the US, and the world, we exist in a post-Christian society, and Christian beliefs are not only seen as polarising, they are seen as hateful, as things which are consistently twisted into appearing as if they are attempts to hurt others and to FORCE others into being denied ‘basic human rights’.

 

[Motherwit]

Our Church urges our children that we need to be counter cultural taking Christ into our secular world but to me it seems that in so many endeavors these wealthy Catholic nonprofits are just perpetrating the culture. Christianity from the beginning was a small group with a big vision and the power of the Holy Spirit behind it. The idea that a Catholic movement just accepts that nothing can change so we’ll just drink from the muddy dregs of the pond that we know, to me seems at best defeatist but at worst a facade for a different agenda.

 

[Annie]

Joe Biden is a Catholic in the political sphere as a Democrat, Catholic Vote is Republicans in the political sphere as Catholics.

Why can’t Catholic Vote be Catholics in the political sphere like Biden?

 

[cloistered]

I don’t think Biden is being a Catholic in the political sphere.
I think Catholic Vote can be Catholic in the political sphere. But, I also think their views are more Republican than Catholic.

 

[JimG]

https://catholicvote.org/

 

[stpurl]

Well a lot does rest on your perceptions and understandings. You may be quite correct. However there could be other issues at work and many many efforts and attempts that have gone on for years, among individuals, that never worked out, or are working out in ‘silence’ so to speak. The idea for example that ONLY your assumption of a “Catholic Third Party’ should be what all Catholic ‘fundage’ go toward could itself be too limited or indeed be counter productive.

Countercultural sounds great IF the culture is pure evil. But oftentimes the culture has been or can have elements of great good.

People who are, for example, “anti-vaccination’ are widely and correctly seen as countercultural. Are their actions though necessarily good? Most would argue that there could be elements of danger to all people with this ‘counterculturalism’.

A better term is that of being ‘in the world but not of the world’. We certainly care for the wellbeing of others ‘here and now’ but the ‘hereafter’ is more important. For Jesus Himself said not, “Ignore Caesar and anything material” but rather, “Render to Caesar what is Caesar’s, and to God what is God’s.”

Right now we have a matter of a few weeks before an important election. There is no way in which we can develop a ‘Catholic Third Party’ in that time.

And no amount of ‘coulda shoulda woulda’ changes that. Hasn’t that strategy been shown at its worst with the charges of how it’s all This Person’s fault for COVID, and how it’s ‘That Groups’ fault’ for their disregard of “Science” (but Another Group ignoring science for important protests has no ill effect and is praiseworthy), and it’s all hindsight and speculation presented as absolute FACT? What GOOD does it do to wail about how things ‘should have been done’ when we truly have no idea that if they had indeed been done that way things might have been worse just as much as they’re ‘assumed’ could have been better? What good does it do to play Judas-like with, “oh that money should have been spent in a way that was more beneficial instead of wasted’?

 

[Annie]

I don’t think Biden is being a Catholic in the political sphere.

But that was how you described him?

 

[Annie]

The idea of a Catholic party was floated—between the wars? I think— and it was decided against because there are too many issues that governments need to involve themselves in which do not have a “Catholic position,” like whether or not to construct a new sewage system or repair the old one, and how to pay for that.

 

[Annie]

Norplant, the first long-term abc aside from the IUD, became available in 1990.

 

[Motherwit]

The idea of a Catholic party was floated—between the wars? I think— and it was decided against because there are too many issues that governments need to involve themselves in which do not have a “Catholic position,” like whether or not to construct a new sewage system or repair the old one, and how to pay for that.

An example of platforms that work well in galvinizing the Christian base would be the Christian Democratic Party in Germany (Angela Merkel). So not a religious party per se but a party that practicing Christians can recognize common values behind policy.

 

[Annie]

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Abortion rates after legalization.

 

[cloistered]

You are right, I did, but I didn’t mean to. I typed/worded it VERY poorly.

I meant: "Joe Biden is a Catholic, but in the political sphere as a Democrat, Catholic Vote is Republican, but in the political sphere as Catholic.

 

[Annie]

Catholic Vote is Republican, but in the political sphere as Catholic

Why do you think this?

 

[Horton]

Let him who is without sin cast the first stone.

Does this apply to you also?

If so, you may want to go back and read what you wrote. If you can throw all these stones, you would have to be Jesus.

devil deceiver in power has caused the division and flamed the fires of racism

disrespected our POWs , those that died fighting for US,

tear gassed toddlers, children and their parents

children should be caged and their health neglected and spending their birthdays and Christmases caged

He pardons men that have been convicted simply because they adhere to his racism creed.

Say he is against abortion but only if it does not app,y to his mistress.

would reveal his taxes day after being sworn in

only one ever to hold this office who did not reveal his taxes…a crook perhaps

for this traitor who only has a elementary level command of the English language and does not know the law of the land, the Constitution.

His desire to control the press and only allow those that ask easy questions reminds me so much how hitler started his reign of terror

 

[Dr_Meinheimer]

I have never been or will i be a voter for a single issue candidate. Our country’s laws and actions domestic and worldwide do not fall under the umbrella of abortion. I for one am concerned with how this devil deceiver in power has caused the division and flamed the fires of racism in our country like never before. And i grew up in the 60s! There are issues of appointments in our govt by him that are there to pass laws that agree with him. Doing away with our environmental protection laws, disrespected our POWs , those that died fighting for US, rulers from other contries that have been our allies. YET claims his love and love letters between him and the korean leader. And those are his words. Never did make any statenent regarding the russian bounty on our soldiers. Bullied a littke girl whose interest was climate change. tear gassed toddlers, children and their parents who were trying to seek a better safer life for their children, as i would think any of us would do. I dont believe children should be caged and their health neglected and spending their birthdays and Christmases caged like animals. Even prisoners in the US get better health and living conditions. He pardons men that have been convicted simply because they adhere to his racism creed. Denied Puerto Rico and California aid during the floods because they “talked bad about him.” Boo hoo, man up. Say he is against abortion but only if it does not app,y to his mistress. Said Mexico would build the wall, would reveal his taxes day after being sworn in…but, hey guess what he didnt. We are still waiting for his taxes. The only one ever to hold this office who did not reveal his taxes…a crook perhaps? So NO i would not consider voting for this traitor who only has a elementary level command of the English language and does not know the law of the land, the Constitution. His desire to control the press and only allow those that ask easy questions reminds me so much how hitler started his reign of terror. So be afraid. And ANY person holding this office cannot and should not pass laws based on his beliefs such as abortion or racism. He is not there to govern a few but has to consider the whole country. So dont judge Joe Biden as not being a good Catholic. Let him who is without sin cast the first stone.

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