Catholic guy dating a JW girl.. Please help..

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Thank you…I think I’ll be bringing up this suggestion to her,if she’s willing to attend mass and Catholic bible study once in a while if we get married… Thanks alot…
I think it’s best to bring up the topic of her attending Mass and Bible study/RCIA before you get married. Not after you were. I suggest you have a serious talk with her about all this while you are still in the ‘dating’ phase of your relationship, don’t even bring up the subject of getting married and having kids. It’s already very complicated as it is without adding marriage and kids. If you BOTH love each other EQUALLY, then you both will be willing to ‘meet in the middle’. Although personally, I would not go to their Bible study or worship service at all.

I will pray for you and I hope you find peace in your heart.
 
I feel for the situation. It is terrible, and is heartbreaking. I have only begun to realize, that when I dated (and was engaged Islamically) in the past, that every girl I met, even when I was not very religious or “religious in name only”, I asked her on the first meeting if I was not sure, “what is your religion?” And if it wasn’t compatible with mine (either as different, or too pious, often too pious), I let it go - I can not rationally explain why I did, when religion mattered to me so little, but I can only imagine that it was the Holy Spirit guiding me on the path to Christianity, and attempted piety, and away from what could never work, and that God did not have written in the book of my life.
I’m sorry to say I agree with him. There’s a proverb in my country that reads “One shouldn’t use his teeth to divide meat he is not willing to eat”. You understand, by the time the chicken is in your mouth it’s too late! If you really knew enough about them, I assure you you wouldn’t have started a relationship at all.

I think that this experience will help you to put your faith where it belongs - in first place - and to think about the feasibility of married life with anyone you date in the future. Don’t worry, you can love again, and even more deeply than now. You just have to let time work.
Also, maybe with your new and clearer understanding of this kind of situation, you’ll be advising many other christians and trying harder to encourage your Jehovah witnesses friends to come to the Church. 🙂
 
I think it’s best to bring up the topic of her attending Mass and Bible study/RCIA before you get married. Not after you were. I suggest you have a serious talk with her about all this while you are still in the ‘dating’ phase of your relationship, don’t even bring up the subject of getting married and having kids. It’s already very complicated as it is without adding marriage and kids. If you BOTH love each other EQUALLY, then you both will be willing to ‘meet in the middle’. Although personally, I would not go to their Bible study or worship service at all.

I will pray for you and I hope you find peace in your heart.
I agree. This has to be established before hand. You can’t make it an “Oh let’s see if I can get her to go this week.” If you are not convicted in your believes then she will never follow through.
 
I’d like throw in my two pennies for what it’s worth: I met my first wife when we were both members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.(mormon) We fell in love eventually got married. However, before the walk down the aisle, I left the Mormon faith, and came to a saving faith in Jesus Christ. My (ex) wife and I were still committed, we tried going to each others churches, but this didnt work out so well. In short, we were “unequally yolked”(2 Corinthians 6:14) We later got divorced. I can tell you, this was a very painful thing. I loved her dearly. But, as I have learned, God is faithful. He has since provided me with a Godly woman. I hate to use “if” when it comes to God, but If you are ment to be with her, God will** provide a way for the two of you. If not**, God will provide you with a mate who is both pleasing to you and to Him.👍
 
Yup, yup… I’ll be praying hard tonight… Thanks alot… Please pray for me and pray with me…
I’m not normally a Prayer Warrior, but there have been a few situations in the last few days that have demanded my attention. This being one.

I pray in nomine Patris, et Filii, et Spiritus Sancti,

Holy God and Holy Lord Jesus, thrice-holy most Holy Trinity, receive our prayers: Holy Family, St Joseph, model of all husbands and men, St Mary, model of chastity and of piety, pray for J Noel; St Jude, patron of hopeless causes, pray for him; St Augustine and your mother, St Monica, patrons of conversion and salvation of the unbelieving, intercede for him. We pray for the strengthening of faith, and for the grace of God to endure; for J Noel to be granted the grace to persevere in this time, and to overcome; to be comforted by the love of the most Holy Trinity when human love is deceitful above all things and seems to fail him, that you, O Lord, shall lift him up and exalt him, according to the eternal promise of our Lord Jesus, “that they who mourn and weep, they shall be comforted and laugh; that they who are pure in heart shall see the Face of God; that blessed are those who are hated of man, and whom man separates from his company, for the sake of the Son of Man”.

We pray now in the words of your holy Prophet Jeremiah: “know the plans I have for you, plans for welfare and good and not for evil, to give you a future and a hope, for then you will call upon me in prayer: and I the Lord shall listen”. We pray with the words of your servant David, King of Israel, father of our Lord according to the flesh: “The Lord is close and near to those with broken hearts and saves those whose spirits are crushed: the righteous man may have many troubles, but the Lord will deliver him from all of them. The Lord protects all his bones, not one of them will be broken”.

I close this prayer with more words of David, spoken at like times, one well-read and oft-spoken and known to you, O Lord, by endless repetition, spoken often because it is often relevant:

"The Lord is my shepherd:
I shall not want.
He maketh me lay down in green pastures;
He leadeth me beside the still waters
He restoreth my soul.

He leads me in the paths of righteousness for his name’s sake.
Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death,
I shall fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff,
They comfort me.

You set a table before me in the presence of my enemies,
You anoint my head with oil; my cup overflows.
May goodness and mercy pursue me all of the days of my life,
And I shall dwell in the house of the Lord forever."

The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear?
The Lord is the stronghold of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

When evildoers assail me to eat up my flesh,
my adversaries and foes, it is they who stumble and fall.
Though an army encamp against me,
my heart shall not fear;
though war arise against me, yet I will be confident.
One thing have I asked of the Lord, that will I seek after:
that I may dwell in the house of the Lord
all the days of my life, to gaze upon the beauty of the Lord

and to inquire in his temple.

**For he will hide me in his shelter
in the day of trouble; he will conceal me under the cover of his tent;
he will lift me high upon a rock. **
And now my head shall be lifted up above my enemies all around me,
and I will offer in his tent sacrifices with shouts of joy;
I will sing and make melody to the Lord.

Hear, O Lord, when I cry aloud; be gracious to me and answer me!


You have said, "Seek my face.”
My heart says to you,
“Your face, Lord, do I seek.”
Hide not your face from me.
Turn not your servant away in anger,
O you who have been my help.
Cast me not off; forsake me not,
O God of my salvation!
For my father and my mother have forsaken me,
but the Lord will take me in.
Teach me your way, O Lord,
and lead me on a level path

because of my enemies.

Give me not up to the will of my adversaries;
for false witnesses have risen against me,
and they breathe out violence.
I believe that I shall look upon the goodness of the Lord
in the land of the living!
Wait for the Lord; be strong, and let your heart take courage;
Wait for the Lord!


Ave Maria,
Gratia plena
Dominus tecum.

Benedicta tu in mulieribus
Et benedictus fructus ventris tui,
Iesus.

Sancta Maria,
Mater Dei
Ora pro nobis peccatoribus nunc et in hora mortis nostrae.

Holy Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.
Holy Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.
Holy Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.

We pray, we ask, in the name of your Son, our Lord Jesus Christ, by the intercession of all the Saints in Heaven, in nomine Patris, et Filii, et Spiritus Sancti.

Saint Michael the Archangel, protect us from the wickedness and snares of the Devil.

Our Father, who art in Heaven:
Hallowed by thy name.
Thy kingdom come,
Thy will be done,
On earth, as it is in Heaven.

Give us this day our supersubstantial bread
And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.
And lead us not in to temptation, but deliver us from evil.

Our Father, who art in Heaven,
Hallowed by thy name.
Thy Kingdom come,
Thy Will be done,
On Earth, as it is in Heaven.

Give us this day our daily bread
And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors,
And lead us not in to temptation, but deliver us from evil.

Gloria Patri, et Filio, et Spiritui Sancto
Sicut erat in principio, et nunc et semper et in saecula saeculorum.

Amen. Amen. Amen.
 
I’m sorry to say I agree with him. There’s a proverb in my country that reads “One shouldn’t use his teeth to divide meat he is not willing to eat”. You understand, by the time the chicken is in your mouth it’s too late! If you really knew enough about them, I assure you you wouldn’t have started a relationship at all.

I think that this experience will help you to put your faith where it belongs - in first place - and to think about the feasibility of married life with anyone you date in the future. Don’t worry, you can love again, and even more deeply than now. You just have to let time work.
Also, maybe with your new and clearer understanding of this kind of situation, you’ll be advising many other christians and trying harder to encourage your Jehovah witnesses friends to come to the Church. 🙂
And I’ve been through something the same, although I made a cleaner break (or at least I think), as I had to end my engagement and contact with the woman, stubbornly Islamic, upon my conversion to Christianity. Through her and my own weakness, unbeknownst to me at the time - as I didn’t even know of the thing - such would cause the White Crown to forever slip out of my grasp.
 
What are you referring she’ll “insist”? Please elaborate brother…
If she insists on your attending their bible study after you’ve told her point blank your stand that you know all ou need to know about them and outrightly reject their doctrine, then you know it’s never going to work with her. If you lean even an inch, she’ll continue to insist on more daring things for you to do, and the only point she’ll stop is when you have converted to her faith.
My advice, in that case, …RUN!
 
And I’ve been through something the same, although I made a cleaner break (or at least I think), as I had to end my engagement and contact with the woman, stubbornly Islamic, upon my conversion to Christianity. Through her and my own weakness, unbeknownst to me at the time - as I didn’t even know of the thing - such would cause the White Crown to forever slip out of my grasp.
I have prayed for them, using your suggested prayers. Wow, you are a bit of a warrior!:)👍
 
Don’t even entertain the idea you will marry her and be of different faith’s. Three years of study to get to know the JW religion and you don’t convert, then you still don’t know it in thier eyes. Don’t trade the Body of Christ for the body of a woman.

P.S. She seem more than ready to give up this great love for her beliefs.
 
Don’t even entertain the idea you will marry her and be of different faith’s. Three years of study to get to know the JW religion and you don’t convert, then you still don’t know it in thier eyes. Don’t trade the Body of Christ for the body of a woman.

P.S. She seem more than ready to give up this great love for her beliefs.
This is good, no great advice.👍

When we are in love it seems we cannot live without the person. Yes, you can!

Make no mistake - with JW Resistance is futile; they want to convert you, not just educate you. I will pray for you.
 
Hello jnoelbalana14,

Keep your head up dear!! If it is in God’s will for her to be your wife, then it sure will work out, because everything eventually works out someway or another. Maybe you could try talking to her about your faith! As for now, I’m praying for you 🙂

God bless you,
Melani
 
I really feel the need to reply. The JW bible study is in of itself, a recruitment tactic. Their main source of “scripture” is not the Bible (not even the Bible that they have edited for their own purposes). It is “The Watchtower” magazine. Their “Bible Studies” are designed to condition the recruit to stop thinking for themselves and to rely on the information given in the magazines from their HQ in Brooklyn. I suggest that you DO NOT go to this “Bible Study”. I really hate to use the “C” word, but their indoctrination is very similar to that of a Cult. They slowly tear down your faith in your own religion to rebuild your confidence in their beliefs. Please, if you do nothing else from this post, read the following link in it’s entirety. Especially the section “How They Make Converts”. catholic.com/tracts/history-of-the-jehovahs-witnesses

God Bless
Don
 
Will I I let her go even if we’re still inlove with each other?I need your advice…
Respectfully, real love involves doing what is right and best for the other person, regardless of your personal wants and feelings. Real love is based on decisions and actions and not simply a feeling. This young lady appears to be setting conditions on the circumstances inwhich she will return love and / or accept love from you. This is not love… this is infatuation. Love isn’t so selfish as to demand another changes on the threat of that love being withheld and/or the relationship terminated. My advice… find a good Catholic young lady. They’re out there.
 
Will I I let her go even if we’re still inlove with each other?I need your advice…
There’s a song that says “sometimes, love just ain’t enough.” My brother this is one of those times. Everyone here understands that you love this girl, and that you’re willing to take an extra step to stay a part of her life. But, and I mean this sincerely, you gettin played! “If you study and improve we can get married sooner” Are you kidding me? She’s asking you to turn your back on YOUR Church, which is THE Church.

What if she said: “Hey, jnoel, I need you to wack my mom, she’s not been very nice to me recently, and if you do, I’ll marry you.”

You’d tell her she was bat-poo crazy and move on right? Essentially, that’s what’s going on here. She’s making a demand of you that you know is wrong, and from your replies to comments, I can tell you know deep down they’re not right, so why are you going along with it?

“Because I love her”

Well, that’s great, but I love chocolate, and Batman comics, and Chinese food, but I would readily give up all three at the same time if someone told me in order to eat/read I would have to give up my faith.

I know this might sound a bit harsh, but you really need to consider what you’re saying here. Your position is that you’re basically willing to throw your faith out the door FOR A WOMAN. I’ve been married for over 7 years now, and I love my wife with every ounce of my being, but if she ever tried to manipulate me in the way that you’re being manipulated, I would really have to reconsider her “love” for me.

Love isn’t manipulation. Love isn’t forcing you to do something against your will, and before you say “well, she’s not forcing me” yeah she is. She gave you an ultimatum, and you bought it, lock, stock and barrel. I can absolutely promise you that as soon as you get married, she’ll start pushing you to do other things that you don’t want to do, all under the guise of “if you loved me, you would.”

If I were you, I’d run away from her so fast my feet wouldn’t touch the ground.
 
My friend, this is a bad situation that can never lead to happiness. Let’s just say you did everything she wanted (and yes, that includes converting to JW, you need to “improve”) you still would not be happy. How could you be? She is asking you to completely abandon your faith. She really is asking you to do this, please trust us on this. It is obvious to those of us who are not in love with her, our judgement is not clouded by emotions and even based on what little you told us, we can tell she is trying to convert you.

How can this lead to happiness? Do you want to live as a JW and raise your children that way? Considering that she will be shunned, that is the only option.

This situation is not right and deep down you know something is wrong, that is why you are asking for advice and feel very troubled. When you are with the right person although things will not be perfect, you will not be shaken to the core like this, and you will not be asked to do something so contrary to your faith and beliefs.

I know it is hard but you need to move on. If you are faithful to God, He will make it right in the end. God Bless.
 
Thank you so much:)… I’ll study not because I’m considering to be converted to anti-catholic JW, rather, I’m doing this not just to lose her… I’m deeply rooted to Catholic truths and they can’t swept me away…
What happens in 3 years when you finish the studies and then say you won’t convert?

Will you be married already or is the marriage contingent on converting? How will you continue to practice Catholicism? They have services on Sunday; we have a Kingdom Hall nearby.

Are you going to hide the fact that you are a practicing Catholic or are you going to not be able to attend Mass for the next 3 years. How will you attend both services on Sundays?

In other words, how are you going to manage?

I don’t think that pretending that you are on track with converting to the JW, when you are not, is a good basis for a marriage. And if you do marry remaining Catholic, I think the marriage will suffer and you both will. She has her faith – you have yours.

God does not want us to pretend, and for the next 3 years you will be pretending – how can a marriage be blessed based upon a lie? And where is the ceremony to be held – certainly not in a Catholic Church.

Accept the break up. You will find another and more suitable partner. Maybe God put the break up out there so you can see this is not going to work – not for you to try and do an end run around it.
 
Hi! I’m a devout Catholic. I’ve recently dated a girl who is a Jehovah’s Witness. We love each other very much but religion is really a barrier. Just yesterday,she decided to broke up until I can fully understand her faith more - an allusion the she wishes me to study and eventually convert to her faith. We love each other so much but she’s afraid that we can’t make it in married life if we are from different religion. I don’t want to lose her and it seems the only hope is that I know is to attend their bible studies but I don’t think I’ll convert to them. Please help… I need your advices. Thanks alot…
Sorry to say this to you, but I’d suggest you put Christ and the Church first and break up with her. I think you’re setting yourself up for a lot of heartache.
 
3 years in JW Bible study? At the expense of your Catholic faith? I’d say “No” to that.

The 3 years will be spent on their part indoctrinating you against the Catholic Church - which they are prejudiced against.

3 years? RCIA is 9 months. JW don’t have 2,000 years of prior history needing 3 years of study.

Take a week and find all of the controversial beliefs that JW hold and then have a conversation with your girlfriend. Go into marriage with your eyes WIDE open.

You’re young, in love and living day by day. Look into your future as a married couple with children, a job, etc. If your faith survives, you’ll be attending Mass alone, without her. Whatever unified concepts exist between JW and Catholicism, that’s what your children will learn. A little of this and a bit of that, in order to please the two of you. Very confusing for children.

chnetwork.org/2011/11/from-the-desert-to-paradise-conversion-story-of-tom-cabeen/

Conversion story of Tom Cabeen.
 
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