** Hi Ron,
I think we should pray for Catholics and the Catholic hierarchy to have more humility. This attitude that says we are right about everything and everyone else is wrong does not promote unity and I donât think Jesus would approve of it either. If anyone had a right to be that way it was Jesus but he wasnât that way at all.
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Hi ron,
The Bible says âAnswer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceitâ.Pro 26:5
Now take some time to mean the real Jesus: Jesus who showed anger in the synagogue of Capernaum. When the Pharisees refused to answer Jesusâ questions, âHe . . . looked round about them with angerâ Mark 3:5 says that His anger was attended by grief over the Phariseesâ lack of faith. Jesusâ anger stemmed from love for the Pharisees and concern for their spiritual condition. It had nothing to do with hatred or ill will. Now imagine Him being told âMaster, someone insulted your Mother!â What would He do? I think: âAnd I will dash them one against another, even the fathers and the sons together, saith the LORD: I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy them.â Jer13:14
How can we judge? âThe spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subject to any manâs judgment:â 1 Cor 2:15 We are told not to argue with an unbeliever.TI 6:20, 2TI 2:14-16, 3:1-7 **
I am a Catholic (itâs on my profile) like many others who have had denominational struggles within my family. Donât assume I am Protestant because I crticize Catholics. I also critcize Protestants, atheists: those who put their faith in Darwin and anyone else who does not make sense.** Hi Ron,
Under your reasonngs about the churchâs condition you believe you could be your own Pope? Could I recommend the named âForrest Iâ If you use candy as communion and you will be a shoe in at the next annual protestant convention. Eeeerrr, you do have conventions donât you? What about the ones you donât believe are true churches? I think that would amount to the about 60,999 other protestant denominations wouldnât it? **
Iâm one of you. Iâm Catholic. If you have a problem with it tell the priest who baptized me.** Hi Ron,
Under your reasonngs about the churchâs condition you believe you could be your own Pope? Could I recommend the named âForrest Iâ If you use candy as communion and you will be a shoe in at the next annual protestant convention. Eeeerrr, you do have conventions donât you? What about the ones you donât believe are true churches? I think that would amount to the about 60,999 other protestant denominations wouldnât it? **
What has been decreed infallible are any ex-cathedra statements. As far as I know, there are only two: The Immaculate Conception and Assumption.
Hi Ron,
Thanks Benedictus. I agree with you. The Catholic Church is the true church and it has beauty and richness. My criticism does come from the inability to understand what the Church actually teaches. There have been more than 2 infallible decrees but no one knows what they are. Most Catholics donât agree on that and many other teachings of the Church so where is the unity? Some Catholics on this forum are united in their hatred of Protestants. Go to Ireland. You can get a gun and kill them if thatâs what you like. If there were no Protestants I suppose they would find inferior Catholics to pick on. Now back to the subject. Symux really hit the nail on the head. Power hungry leaders in the past abused that power and stole it from the true believers.
I do not agree with that statement one bit and can refute it but i am so tired and it is very late so I will leave the answer for tomorrow.
The Protestants may already use that title they need 61,000 different names to attempt to keep their denominations straight. Some even are using Catholic in their names. That will help add confusion. The devil must love that.Before you find fault with me you should speak to Catholics in your own parish and then expand from there and find out what they really believe. Concern yourself with baptized Catholics who donât believe in the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ, those who believe there is nothing wrong woth pre-marital sex and those who believe in reincarnation, numerology, astrology, horoscopes and psychics.
Hi Ron,
Donât pretend, Be honest. You donât believe doctrines of the Catholic church. You want to do it âyour wayâ You have no faith in the Cathathic church and the infallability of the Pope. that sounds Protestant to me. We teach that all christians are âCatholicâ. They just donât agree with our teachings or realize it. Sound familiar? Sso lets think about changing your profile to ânon-denominational christianâ.
I apologize for thinking you were a Protestant, it was the old âIf it walk and looks like a DuckâŚââ Catholics are âpermitedâ to put our âfaithâ in Darwin also and from reading the last line of your post I must say: âPlease donât be so critical of YOURSELF!â
God Bless ****
**Hi ron,
Can I be unbaptized? I donât think so.**Hi ron,
Trust me on this one old buddy. You are not one of us. **
âAs far as I knowâ is a strange way to put it, but the opinion that benedictus2 expressed is actually quite common, even among conservative Catholics. (Donât ask me why.)
Sad. But true.
**Hi ron,
** . Held thy self. Talk to a priest, Pray that is the best advise I can give you. Remember Jesus does love you⌠****No Ron, **
I donât know exactly what you are trying to say but let me say this and relate it to church history in my life time to keep on the subject. I am very honest. If I were to change my profile it would say Catholic/Protestant because I believe in the real presence of Jesus in the eucharist. The Protestants donât believe that so Iâm not a real Protestant either. Iâm very impressed with the faithful Catholics on this forum because they know what they believe and why they believe it. I canât say that about myself because a lot of the stuff I learned was at a Catholic bible study given by a priest. My parish priest tells us to take the good that we can learn from the Protestants. Obviously what you guys have learned is very different from what I was taught. I donât get on here to create conflict. I get on here to challenge people hoping they can meet the challenge and change my mind. Sorry if I offend anyone in the process. Sometimes things get rough when you talk about religion.
Catholics get very concerned when someone expresses the idea that another Catholic does not accept all the teachings of the Church. In reality many Catholics do not accept all the teachings of the Church because they donât know what they are. Iâm almost certain that if I asked any group of Catholics what they think is required by the Church as necessary for salvation they would not all be in agreement. On this thread alone there is disagreement about what has been declared as infallible doctrine. I want to dialogue but I think it leads to shadow boxing. If we could go back in time and put all believers in one big room I think we would see that we all disagree about something and Jesus knew before the world began whose name is written in the Lambâs Book of Life.
Anybody who can type a profile can claim to be a âcatholicâ. The question should be: do you believe in what Catholicism stands for? If not, youâre as much of a Catholic as a black swan is what he thinks he is.
Then youâre as catholic as other non-catholics think they are!
