Catholic Married? Pick two!

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Thank GOD my parish allows sinners to attend Mass or I’d be Massless.
 
otjm said:
And 50 years later, we are no longer singing Kumbaya (which is the actual spelling)
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Hopefully, decades from now we will no longer sing “Here I Am, Lord” 🙂 Songs do go in and out of fashion. I find it interesting that people complain about 60’s folk music at Mass, I’ve been Catholic for 2 decades and I’ve yet to encounter such.
 
There are a group of songs from the 60s and 70s that were sung at many Masses up through about the end of the 70s when they were replaced by the songs from the St. Louis Jesuits and the “Here I Am, Lord” type stuff. If you only joined us 2 decades ago, you missed all those songs. I know most of them by heart from hearing them over and over as a child and young teen. They included songs like “Kumbaya”, “They’ll Know We are Christians By Our Love”, “I Cannot Come to the Banquet”, “Hear O Lord (The Sound of my Call)” etc.

I will very occasionally hear one from that era performed today but it’s like a 1 or 2 times a year thing and they aren’t in the typical songbooks like “Gather” or “Glory and Praise” that parishes mostly use today.
 
We sang those over in Protestant land as well 🙂 Don’t forget “Let Us Break Bread Together On Our Knees” (visual of everyone down on one knee smashing baguettes against their knees)
 
And God explicitly told us that He only wants what you want, right?
 
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I would pick 2 and 3,. Hard to imagine a parish with a good school serious about faith that does not meet criteria 1. So you will get all three.
 
JulianN said:
Luckily, my diocese requires schools with parishes to extend the ‘in parish’ discount to any student who lives in a parish without a school.
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That’s the wrong way to do it.

The parish without a school should provide a subsidy for its parishioners to attend a Catholic school, while the diocesan subsidy should apply to all Catholics from the diocese.

When I was in Ames, IA, the subsidy from the “other” parish varied from year to year with available funds and the number of children. Some years, it was actually larger than the in-parish discount . . .
 
I would choose space and good Catholic school. In fact that is what we did some 21 years ago!

I’m not sure what is meant by ‘liturgical’ abuse. I’ve been a lifelong practicing Catholic and have just kind of rolled with the flow as far as Mass is concerned. There is one parish in my diocese that the Bishop was giving warnings to and then eventually expelled the Priest and his right to say Mass. But other than the Bishop saying that a Mass isn’t offay I don’t have the expertise to judge on my own.
 
Large spacious home in a good neighborhood.
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The other two are subjective and I’ve had a bad experience with the parish Catholic School my daughter attended up to the 2nd grade.

Jim
 
JulianN said:
There’s no actual diocesan subsidy here.
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There ought to be . . . in the places I’ve been, it’s generally been in the range of 10%-20% of the typical parish subsidy.

All in all, the school should be offered at full price, including the cost of renting the land/building from the parish. The parish should use that, and whatever else it contributes, to subsidize its own parishioners. The diocese should have some subsidy for all Catholics.

The current insane and all to common has the parish building the school, the parish working to raise money to subsidize it, and a majority of students not even Catholic . . .

(also, the school, the building, and the scholarship fund./endowment should be three separate legal entities (and the parish a fourth) for legal liability reasons.
 
I agree. A good Catholic school would have a good Catholic priest in the parish as a matter of course!
 
Don’t forget the spacious house with a low monthly mortgage payment!
 
A and C, as we have a tiny house in a suspect neighborhood but do quite nicely.

Although truth be told, B over C because daughter also attends a very good public school. Hwoever I count it because they run the CCD and religious ed program she attends so…A & C still.
 
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I have no problem singing music in which the text is taken from Scripture. Some seem to think that if it is not set to music of their liking (i.e. Gregorian Chant) and sung in Latin (so the uneducated can’t tell what is being sung), it doesn’t count.

And then there are some who think that if it is not 400+ years old, it isn’t any good.

What is it that the wag said? Oh, yea: you can please some of the people all of the time, and ll of the people some of the time…
 
There is beautiful music written just a few years ago and in all times (John Michael Talbot’s “Mass of Rebirth” is simply breathtaking) there is banal music written in all time
 
otjm said:
I have no problem singing music in which the text is taken from Scripture. Some seem to think that if it is not set to music of their liking (i.e. Gregorian Chant) and sung in Latin (so the uneducated can’t tell what is being sung), it doesn’t count.
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Absolutely.

But it is quite possible to come up with tunes and arrangements that de-emphasize the scripture or prayer, or make a mockery of it.

I’m thinking of any number of the hackings of the Gloria before the recent changes, turning a line into a refrain rather than it’s place in the prayer, splitting to multiple lines in ways that change the meaning (e.g., “God of power, God of Might”), and so forth.
 
1 and 3. I’m the third of 6 children and spent most of my life in a run-down little house with all (or all but one) of my siblings and our parents. It can work.
 
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