Catholic monks and nuns move in together

  • Thread starter Thread starter stanley123
  • Start date Start date
Status
Not open for further replies.
“Housed in a modern complex in the district of Giustiniana on the Via Cassia, the monks and nuns live in separate cells in the same wing, with the men on the top floor and the women on the floor below. The cells all have ensuite bathrooms.”

timesonline.co.uk/article/0,13509-1921505,00.html

If the Church permit this for religious, it is going to be even harder to sell lay couples on not cohabiting before marriage. After all, THAT can be done chastely in theory as well, but has always been said to be a source of scandal.
 
Confiteor said:
“Housed in a modern complex in the district of Giustiniana on the Via Cassia, the monks and nuns live in separate cells in the same wing, with the men on the top floor and the women on the floor below. The cells all have ensuite bathrooms.”

timesonline.co.uk/article/0,13509-1921505,00.html

If the Church permit this for religious, it is going to be even harder to sell lay couples on not cohabiting before marriage. After all, THAT can be done chastely in theory as well, but has always been said to be a source of scandal.
Click to expand...

Now that isn’t far enough apart, IMHO!
 
Confiteor said:
“Housed in a modern complex in the district of Giustiniana on the Via Cassia, the monks and nuns live in separate cells in the same wing, with the men on the top floor and the women on the floor below. The cells all have ensuite bathrooms.”
Sounds like an apartment complex to me. Separate rooms and separate bathrooms. How is that really different from an apartment complex. I don’t think anyone would say everyone in an apartment complex or dorm is cohabitating.
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
40.png
Aesq:
Sounds like an apartment complex to me. Separate rooms and separate bathrooms. How is that really different from an apartment complex. I don’t think anyone would say everyone in an apartment complex or dorm is cohabitating.
Click to expand...
The difference is those in apartment complexes generally have separate entrance to living quarters, don’t dine together, pray together, work together, and (I would guess) socialize together daily.
 
40.png
Aesq:
Confiteor said:
“Housed in a modern complex in the district of Giustiniana on the Via Cassia, the monks and nuns live in separate cells in the same wing, with the men on the top floor and the women on the floor below. The cells all have ensuite bathrooms.”
Sounds like an apartment complex to me. Separate rooms and separate bathrooms. How is that really different from an apartment complex. I don’t think anyone would say everyone in an apartment complex or dorm is cohabitating.
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Actually more like my college dorm…though I hear these days some have coed bathrooms too.
Click to expand...
 
40.png
Priesttobe:
By the way it is a crisis of faith. Not a vocation crisis, where have the vocations came from since the founding of the church?
They came from the family, look around next time you go to mass how many large familys do you see? not to say all vocations come from large families but they do come from prayful obedient families and we are contracepting our vocations it is that simple.
matt 🙂
Click to expand...
Weill, I agree with you that most families are pretty small at the local Catholic Church here. However, I had occasion to attend Mass at an SSPX chapel recently. I noticed that one family consisted of eleven children with another one on the way. The mother looked pretty tired, though. Another family consisted of eight children. But is it true what I read that these people have been excommunicated from the Catholic Church, since they are in some sort of schismatic situation?
 
40.png
Brad:
I’m not a traditionalist but this is a bad idea.

Single men and women under the same roof and with each other most of the day is not good.

" Men and women together create ‘powerful positive energy’, he said."
Click to expand...
All I can think of is ‘the birds and the bees’.
or college dormitories
or hippie communes from the 60’s & 70’s

Wasn’t there a time in history when religious men and women were sneaking back and forth from monastery to convent for some hanky panky? Does history need to repeat itself…can’t anybody learn from past mistakes?
 
40.png
stanley123:
Weill, I agree with you that most families are pretty small at the local Catholic Church here. However, I had occasion to attend Mass at an SSPX chapel recently. I noticed that one family consisted of eleven children with another one on the way. The mother looked pretty tired, though. Another family consisted of eight children. But is it true what I read that these people have been excommunicated from the Catholic Church, since they are in some sort of schismatic situation?
Click to expand...
You seem to have known that it was true, Stanley, when you posted on the following thread:
forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?p=1115967#post1115967

Not to mention here:
forums.catholic-questions.org/showpost.php?p=970357&postcount=160

Sniff, sniff. Hmmm…is that an agenda I smell?
 
40.png
JKirkLVNV:
You seem to have known that it was true, Stanley, when you posted on the following thread:
forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?p=1115967#post1115967

Not to mention here:
forums.catholic-questions.org/showpost.php?p=970357&postcount=160

Sniff, sniff. Hmmm…is that an agenda I smell?
Click to expand...
I see you are following me around. Its OK. I’m Ok with that. I am not sure, but perhaps, I have an agenda, for example, for one thing, I like consistency. I am not 100% OK with SSPX because of their apparent hostility to better relations with other religions including the Jews and the Eastern Orthodox. I would disagree with them on that. I think it is all to the advantage of everyone to have good relations with the Jews and with the Eastern Orthodox. But it does look like to me, at least in this locality, that their members uphold the teachings of the Church on ABC. Shouldn’t they be given credit for that, instead of just throwing them out of the Church? It might be a good idea to try and work things out with them.
 
40.png
stanley123:
I see you are following me around. Its OK. I’m Ok with that. I am not sure, but perhaps, I have an agenda, for example, for one thing, I like consistency. I am not 100% OK with SSPX because of their apparent hostility to better relations with other religions including the Jews and the Eastern Orthodox. I would disagree with them on that. I think it is all to the advantage of everyone to have good relations with the Jews and with the Eastern Orthodox. But it does look like to me, at least in this locality, that their members uphold the teachings of the Church on ABC. Shouldn’t they be given credit for that, instead of just throwing them out of the Church? It might be a good idea to try and work things out with them.
Click to expand...
Hardly following you. I’ve a good memory for people’s stands on things, particularly with regards to the schismatic and POSSIBLY heretical SSPX. All I had to do was read your post in this thread, think,“Hmmm…” click on your name, go to your prior posts, and Bob’s your uncle.

You posit the question disingenously. They’re weren’t thrown out at all, much less thrown out for their stand (orthodox) on ABC. They took themselves out. It’s all there in ***Ecclesia Dei. ***They are formal schismatics and possibly (in some of their priests) formal heretics. Feature that against the Orthodox and other ecclesial communities stemming from the “Reformation.” They are material schismatics and heretics, to who cannot be charged with"the sin of seperation," according to the Catechism. Apples and oranges. The SSPX should know better.
 
After looking at it, I would have to say I am against it. It is just not right to have temptation for religious in such close proximity constantly.

PF
 
40.png
JKirkLVNV:
They are formal schismatics and possibly (in some of their priests) formal heretics.
Click to expand...
A few days ago, Bishop Fellay, head of SSPX, had a 5 hour meeting near the Vatican with Cardinal Darío Castrillón Hoyos at the residence of the Cardinal. I won’t say anything more because this discussion is a bit off topic from the subject of the thread.
 
Hello,
yes it is true many Catholic families chose to not be open to life.
I have seven siblings and three of them including myself are in formation.
I know truly my parents have had to sacrafice much,but at the same time we have a very happy family thanks to the grace of God.
In regards to the Pius X I think we should at least be as kind and charitable to them as we are to the Orthodox, I believe in the very near future they will be in complete union, after all our present pope has a great wish for them and is not unsympathetic to there present circumstance.
God bless 🙂
 
40.png
stanley123:
A few days ago, Bishop Fellay, head of SSPX, had a 5 hour meeting near the Vatican with Cardinal Darío Castrillón Hoyos at the residence of the Cardinal. I won’t say anything more because this discussion is a bit off topic from the subject of the thread.
Click to expand...
Let’s hope it’s fruitful and they come back to the Church. We hope that for everyone.
 
Double monasteries are a very old practice. There used to be several in past times, some of them ruled by a woman. For example the double monastery in Whitby under St. Hilda of Whitby back in Saxon times.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top