"Catholic monk's sex guide"

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Here’s the first 3 paragraphas from thge Courier Mail of Australia;

Catholic monk’s sex guide
Marcus Kuczynski
June 18, 2008 05:05pm

A CELIBATE Polish monk has established a website offering a guide to good sex for married couples, dubbed the ‘Catholic Kama Sutra’.

Father Ksawery Knotz’s site **gives graphic lovemaking hints **and describes sex as a deeply spiritual act in which the couple can experience God.

“In Catholic teaching, the conjugal act is presented as a meeting that occurs not only between a husband and a wife who love each other, but also between the married couple and God,” he said.
 
What I read in the article sounded like basic “Theology of the Body” stuff. The Church should be proclaiming true human sexuality to counter the hedenistic trend in much of the world today. However when I tried to go to the source site my computer blocked it due to “nudity”. I am curious if the friar is giving Catholic teaching on sexuality to the world in a prudent way. I also object to comparing “Theology of the Body” type teaching to kama sutra. True sexuality does involve a sacramental encounter with God, however in my very limited knowledge kama sutra is all about pleasure.
 
The website is responding vvveeerrryyyy slowly.

It is all in Polish (which I can only recognize a few words and phrases + a few cognates). It is mostly text. I cannot vouch for the orthodoxy of the text that I cannot read.

What few pictures I have come across so far are vary tasteful; not at all graphic. I have not been though the whole site yet (as I said, very slow) but I would be surprised if it is pornographic. Probably just a hypersensitive “net-nanny” that blocked it.

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Joe
 
Very interesting. 🙂 I personally think that we need such things to counter the influx of secular sex advice. 👍
 
jprioli said:
The website is responding vvveeerrryyyy slowly.

What few pictures I have come across so far are vary tasteful; not at all graphic.
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I paged through it and some of the images are slightly graphic. The images range from classical Greco-Roman sculpture to iconography to impressionism to a photograph of a nude Barbie (or similar) doll. It is generally sensual, but I agree very tasteful overall. I would guess the text probably reflects this balance as well.

Actually I just punched the website’s URL into Google’s Polish translator, and it seems pretty solid.
translate.google.com

I’m not going to link directly to it, since that page does have a nude ikon.
szansaspotkania dot net
 
A freidn of mine recently told me about this person and through the links I was provided I saw this, apparently his official site in English.

The Act Of Marriage

Rich
 
how can a monk give advice on sex…arent monks supposed to be celibate or am I wrong?

(I bring this up because I often see people ask how preists can have the right to “tell you what do with with you sex life” when he’s not even supposed to have one."
 
Rachel84 said:
how can a monk give advice on sex…arent monks supposed to be celibate or am I wrong?

(I bring this up because I often see people ask how preists can have the right to “tell you what do with with you sex life” when he’s not even supposed to have one."
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How can a male gynaecologist who doesn’t have ovaries or a uterus tell women how to take care of theirs? A pediatrician who’s never had any children of his or her own? A psychiatrist who’s never had a psychiatric illness?
 
RichNH said:
A freidn of mine recently told me about this person and through the links I was provided I saw this, apparently his official site in English.

The Act Of Marriage

Rich
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Some of the phrasing on this site is awkward, but all that I have read so far is thoroughly orthodox. I would probably recommend this to couples preparing for marriage who have studied the theology of the body.
 
Probably because the original is in Polish and it was most likely someone associated with the monk or perhaps he himself) who translated it to English (someone for whom English was a second language).

I think the main theme that he is proposing is that sex can be a lot more varied and imaginitive and still be true to Catholic teaching than most Catholics think. Most people that I’ve had conversations with, Catholics included, think that “Catholic sex” is very rigid, boring and unimaginitive. This especially includes “devout” Catholics who are more concerned with abiding by the rules than your average, run-of-the-mill American Catholic.
 
RichNH said:
Probably because the original is in Polish and it was most likely someone associated with the monk or perhaps he himself) who translated it to English (someone for whom English was a second language).

I think the main theme that he is proposing is that sex can be a lot more varied and imaginitive and still be true to Catholic teaching than most Catholics think. Most people that I’ve had conversations with, Catholics included, think that “Catholic sex” is very rigid, boring and unimaginitive. This especially includes “devout” Catholics who are more concerned with abiding by the rules than your average, run-of-the-mill American Catholic.
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It has nothing to do with the devoutness of a Catholic. In Holy Sex by Dr. Gregory K. Popcak, attitudes toward sex is contrasted between the Mediterranean (Keep God Out of My Bedroom) School and the Aunt McGuillicuddy’s Antique Urn School of Sexuality. Real Catholic attitude toward sex is not found in either extreme.
 
Well, All I can say is that most “Catholics” I know don’t even go to church on a regular basis… For those folks, it seems to me that they wouldn’t pay much attention to anything about what the Vatican says about how to end the sex act. Of the “devout” ones who do and with whom the conversation has come up (and I don’t know as many of those), sex is not even a valid topic of conversation between people except as a means of discussing the “thou shalt not…” list of restrictions. I know this from first hand experience.

Now I realize that some would say that regarding those who aren’t even going to Mass on a regular basis, then they aren’t Catholic and don’t count. Fine. Be that as it may, they still answer the surveys by responding that they are Catholic (probably meaning that they were born into a Catholic family) and that is who I was referring to as your average American Catholic.

If one wishes to define anyone who falls in either “extreme” as not a Catholic well that is your choice. However, it would seem that to do so would significantly reduce the “pool” of Catholics from which to draw a picture of attitudes regarding any given subject. I am speaking of just Catholics in the US of course, the only group I am familiar with…

Anyway, let’s not rat hole the thread over my ignorant comments… 🙂 I admit that this isn’t an area that I have done extensive research in, just observing with my own eyes and ears. I could be completely off base.
 
rlg94086 said:
It has nothing to do with the devoutness of a Catholic. In Holy Sex by Dr. Gregory K. Popcak, attitudes toward sex is contrasted between the Mediterranean (Keep God Out of My Bedroom) School and the Aunt McGuillicuddy’s Antique Urn School of Sexuality. Real Catholic attitude toward sex is not found in either extreme.
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I’m puzzled by something: John Paul II was Polish. This “monk’s sex guide” author is Polish. Dr. Popcak might reasonably be assumed to be of Polish extraction. I’m not arguing with the direction of their thinking, but what is it about the Church in Poland that is providing such “fertile” ground (please excuse that) for this kind of reappraisal of Catholic thinking about that which most of us probably were raised in the McGuillicuddy school?
 
Rachel84 said:
how can a monk give advice on sex…arent monks supposed to be celibate or am I wrong?

(I bring this up because I often see people ask how preists can have the right to “tell you what do with with you sex life” when he’s not even supposed to have one."
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Lay Catholics aren’t supposed to ask those kind of question.
 
LilyM said:
How can a male gynaecologist who doesn’t have ovaries or a uterus tell women how to take care of theirs? A pediatrician who’s never had any children of his or her own? A psychiatrist who’s never had a psychiatric illness?
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See what I mean?😉

The very next post too.
 
LilyM said:
How can a male gynaecologist who doesn’t have ovaries or a uterus tell women how to take care of theirs? A pediatrician who’s never had any children of his or her own? A psychiatrist who’s never had a psychiatric illness?
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I think it would be more fair to compare priests writing about how to have good (relatively) sinless sex, to people who don’t eat and have never cooked writing a cook book.

There was a comedian who said it best (although is name escapes me at the moment).

“HE DOESNT KNOW WHAT HE’S TALKING ABOUT AND ANYTHING HE DOES KNOW HE SHOULDN’T” (with regard to a priest giving advice on sex).
 
RichNH said:
Probably because the original is in Polish and it was most likely someone associated with the monk or perhaps he himself) who translated it to English (someone for whom English was a second language).

I think the main theme that he is proposing is that sex can be a lot more varied and imaginitive and still be true to Catholic teaching than most Catholics think. Most people that I’ve had conversations with, Catholics included, think that “Catholic sex” is very rigid, boring and unimaginitive. This especially includes “devout” Catholics who are more concerned with abiding by the rules than your average, run-of-the-mill American Catholic.
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Yes, its not only non-Catholics who promote the notion that a devout person is more or less by default bad in bed and non-sensual.
 
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