Catholic or "Christian"?

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My brother, I will differ with you. These Bible based Christians are getting their theology not on their own by reading, but through Bible study where the theology is taught. The Geneva Bible had notes to teach Calvinism. The Scofield Bible had notes to teach dispensationalism. The preaching, the music and everything else they do reinforces the theology. They don’t learn this all by reading the bible. I have been to enough Protestant functions to hear a sermon where I hear " and that means your Faith" or “and that means the bible”. Listent to some Protestant chritstian music and you will hear loud and clear the inculcation of faith alone and the bible alone. Watch any Protestant television station and you will get the same. They do not get their beliefs from the Bible alone. When I have in the past occasioned to discuss beliefs with someone wanting me to go to their Protestant Church, I always ask if I can see their statement of Faith. This is what they are learning at their churches.
Your point is well taken. But it still boils down to how Calvin and Scofield, or the local pastor understand the text. And if someone doesn’t like it, they can rent the hall down the street and open their own “bible church”.;)😉
 
I’m always asked at school if I’m Catholic or Christian. When I say that Catholics are Christians, most of the time, people say “No, they’re Catholics.” (I wish there was an icon for facepalm) I think this misconception stems from the fact that evangelical Protestants say that they’re “just Christian” and “non-denominational.” Needless to say, when they identify themselves this way and then proceed to tell me that I’m not a real Christian, it’s really, really annoying.

I really should learn how to tell Protestants that Catholics are Christian without getting annoyed, offended, and upset. I need to learn how to have more patience.
 
I really should learn how to tell Protestants that Catholics are Christian without getting annoyed, offended, and upset. I need to learn how to have more patience.
You are not the only one brother.
 
“I do respect my Protestant brothers and sisters and wish them well on their spiritual journey.”

Exactly, you see when you take any denomination which divides and use it to divide, you are not following the universal law of God. Which is Love.

This is also why in Islamic countries today we have muslims who understood the Quran in a realm of Love and stand up for persecuted Christians and thus are murdered themselves. They simply understood the universal law. Those who react to the ignorance, violence and anything which divides understood something incorrectly and not of God. This is also true of any denomination of Christianity. When you view another Christian group, then judge them and not love them. You are on an incorrect path. 🤷

Peace
 
I’m always asked at school if I’m Catholic or Christian. When I say that Catholics are Christians, most of the time, people say “No, they’re Catholics.” (I wish there was an icon for facepalm) I think this misconception stems from the fact that evangelical Protestants say that they’re “just Christian” and “non-denominational.” Needless to say, when they identify themselves this way and then proceed to tell me that I’m not a real Christian, it’s really, really annoying.

I really should learn how to tell Protestants that Catholics are Christian without getting annoyed, offended, and upset. I need to learn how to have more patience.
We all do need to learn to give a response gently and accurately. However, the fact that this upsets you is a good thing. It is a healthy reaction to bigotry.

You might try asking them "what does it mean to be “christian” When they give you parameters, agree with them all (if you can!). Then tell them you are Catholic, and that these beliefs are Catholic.
 
Taking their teachings and showing them that this is what you belive is not bogus. If you are telling the truth then you are just showing them what you see. If you are wrong let them correct you. If you are correct then what have you done that is a problem.

There was one Old Covenant, there is One New Covenant, there is One Lord, One Faith, One Baptism and only One Church that can be the Pillar and foundation of the truth. Say it loud and say it proud. Is the truth offensive?
I understand what you are saying and it is true. Telling them truth is the most important factor they need to know. What I meant is that I do not fabricate things up against them and try to convey it as a fact,which is my point.
 
“I do respect my Protestant brothers and sisters and wish them well on their spiritual journey.”

Exactly, you see when you take any denomination which divides and use it to divide, you are not following the universal law of God. Which is Love.

This is also why in Islamic countries today we have muslims who understood the Quran in a realm of Love and stand up for persecuted Christians and thus are murdered themselves. They simply understood the universal law. Those who react to the ignorance, violence and anything which divides understood something incorrectly and not of God. This is also true of any denomination of Christianity. When you view another Christian group, then judge them and not love them. You are on an incorrect path. 🤷

Peace
I totally know what you mean. 👍
 
Your point is well taken. But it still boils down to how Calvin and Scofield, or the local pastor understand the text. And if someone doesn’t like it, they can rent the hall down the street and open their own “bible church”.;)😉
Amen, Amen and Amen
 
“I do respect my Protestant brothers and sisters and wish them well on their spiritual journey.”

Exactly, you see when you take any denomination which divides and use it to divide, you are not following the universal law of God. Which is Love.

This is also why in Islamic countries today we have muslims who understood the Quran in a realm of Love and stand up for persecuted Christians and thus are murdered themselves. They simply understood the universal law. Those who react to the ignorance, violence and anything which divides understood something incorrectly and not of God. This is also true of any denomination of Christianity. When you view another Christian group, then judge them and not love them. You are on an incorrect path. 🤷

Peace
Jesus did not mince words with the Samaritan woman

19The woman said to Him, “Sir, I perceive that You are a prophet. 20“Our fathers worshiped in this mountain, and you people say that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship.” 21Jesus said to her, “Woman, believe Me, an hour is coming when neither in this mountain nor in Jerusalem will you worship the Father. 22“You worship what you do not know; we worship what we know, for salvation is from the Jews.

We worship at Calvary Chapel, and you worship at St Mary…
 
I’m always asked at school if I’m Catholic or Christian. When I say that Catholics are Christians, most of the time, people say “No, they’re Catholics.” (I wish there was an icon for facepalm) I think this misconception stems from the fact that evangelical Protestants say that they’re “just Christian” and “non-denominational.” Needless to say, when they identify themselves this way and then proceed to tell me that I’m not a real Christian, it’s really, really annoying.

I really should learn how to tell Protestants that Catholics are Christian without getting annoyed, offended, and upset. I need to learn how to have more patience.
The Church calls us to evangelize, how much better does it get in these situations…

You don’t have to prove the Bible is the Word of God
You don’t have to convince them that Jesus is Saviour

It is in the particulars that discussion should take place. These are evangelistic opportunities.
 
Your point is well taken. But it still boils down to how Calvin and Scofield, or the local pastor understand the text. And if someone doesn’t like it, they can rent the hall down the street and open their own “bible church”.;)😉
👍
 
“I do respect my Protestant brothers and sisters and wish them well on their spiritual journey.”

Exactly, you see when you take any denomination which divides and use it to divide, you are not following the universal law of God. Which is Love.

This is also why in Islamic countries today we have muslims who understood the Quran in a realm of Love and stand up for persecuted Christians and thus are murdered themselves. They simply understood the universal law. Those who react to the ignorance, violence and anything which divides understood something incorrectly and not of God. This is also true of any denomination of Christianity. When you view another Christian group, then judge them and not love them. You are on an incorrect path. 🤷

Peace
The Church calls us to evangelize, how much better does it get in these situations…

You don’t have to prove the Bible is the Word of God
You don’t have to convince them that Jesus is Saviour

It is in the particulars that discussion should take place. These are evangelistic opportunities.
Visiting the Assembly of God church, I have remained silent while the congregation prayed for the conversion of Catholics. Conversation after the service centered on the resurrection and the revelation that I am Catholic. What has the response been? “I didn’t know Catholics believed that.”
Evangelization comes from how we live our lives. Normal conversation can reveal the truth of what the Church teaches more than argument. I always begin with what we share in common.
 
Isn’t anyone else annoyed by the question “Are you Catholic or Christian?”

I’ve been asked this several times by both Protestants and shockingly Catholics. :eek: It’s been especially annoying when I tell them “Catholic is Christian” and they say “No! Christians sing and have bands and pastors” :doh2:

:dts: Anyone else encountered this problem or was asked this question?
YES! I show 'em my Cross…tell 'em I worship the ONE Christ revealed “fully” in the Gospels! Really not sure what else they want!🤷
 
The only people I’ve met who thought Catholic wasn’t “Christian” was a Jehvoah Wittenss…yet funny enough they won’t call themselves “Christians” either. So I’m not sure what the Jehvoah Wittness thought I was…if I wasn’t JW and I wasn’t Christian, what did that make me? Oh that’s right I was “Catholic”. 🤷 lol
 
Visiting the Assembly of God church, I have remained silent while the congregation prayed for the conversion of Catholics. Conversation after the service centered on the resurrection and the revelation that I am Catholic. What has the response been? “I didn’t know Catholics believed that.”
Evangelization comes from how we live our lives. Normal conversation can reveal the truth of what the Church teaches more than argument. I always begin with what we share in common.
We all have different talents. I am not Karl Keating, nor am I Scott Hahn or any other accomplished apologist. There are those that pray, those that meditate and those that champion the Faith. What you do is right for you.

In my experience encountering most of the evangelical groups, Fundamentalists, Pentacostals, and AOG you as a Catholic are the target of their love. They love you too much not to try to convert you. It is an ever present part of their life.

Now if I were to post here now that everyone should pray for every Protestant on this website for conversion that may generate a response that is not welcome. I can point out what I believe and point out what I think they believe, so far I believe I am correct, and examine the differences.

Protestant believe in Extrinsic justification, acquital as in a legal act declaring a sinner righteous but not truly righteous. We believe in intrinsic justifcation, legally declared righteous and in fact righteous and declared to be a child of God. We believe it is the work of God from start to finish. It is important to declare this because many have been wrongly taught that we believe we work our way to heaven.

You do what you do best and I praise you. I do what I do best and hey we all have different talents.
 
I’m always asked at school if I’m Catholic or Christian. When I say that Catholics are Christians, most of the time, people say “No, they’re Catholics.” (I wish there was an icon for facepalm) I think this misconception stems from the fact that evangelical Protestants say that they’re “just Christian” and “non-denominational.” Needless to say, when they identify themselves this way and then proceed to tell me that I’m not a real Christian, it’s really, really annoying.

I really should learn how to tell Protestants that Catholics are Christian without getting annoyed, offended, and upset. I need to learn how to have more patience.
You may want to understand that I and probably every other Catholic was educated and catechized in our Faith. Catholic School, Catholic teaching, everything I learned was about MY Faith. I never learned anything else about how others were wrong.

Protestants evanglize others because they at the inception of the so called reform said that the Pope was the antichrist and that has carried over. You may want to search some Protestant websites for their ministries. Catholicism is considered a cult. Ironic huh. So you must know that as they learn their theology they learn that everyone else is wrong and there are cults like JW, Mormon, Catholic and of course they have to go after the evolutionists and athiests.

I have a BS in zoology and I studied and know Evolution inside and out and yet I am not an evolutionist. Many Protestant groups create these paper tigers of what they think they need to evangelize to give the evangelists in their groups something to do.
 
Maybe Protestants can ask the same question of some of you? Not that there is any “Protestant bashing” on this board by Catholics…😃

Perhaps instead of “bashing” anyone…we should seek to understand one another.🤷
With 4,000 posts under your belt, what is it you would want me/us to understand?
 
Isn’t anyone else annoyed by the question “Are you Catholic or Christian?”

I’ve been asked this several times by both Protestants and shockingly Catholics. :eek: It’s been especially annoying when I tell them “Catholic is Christian” and they say “No! Christians sing and have bands and pastors” :doh2:

:dts: Anyone else encountered this problem or was asked this question?
I haven’t read the rest of this thread, but asking if someone’s Catholic or Christian is like asking “Are you a man or are you a human?” 😉
 
I haven’t read the rest of this thread, but asking if someone’s Catholic or Christian is like asking “Are you a man or are you a human?” 😉
Exactly! :clapping: :clapping: :clapping: :clapping:
 
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