So true. It seems to me that a vote for Obama was a form of racism. The black population is dwindling due to the genocide of abortion. What is more bigoted than that.
You are exactly correct. I call them dumb & numb (don’t speak & don’t feel) Catholics because they act as if the abortion issue is an academic issue. There’s a radical Pro-Lifer whose views are too militant but, his feel for the horror of this holocaust is right on. He has a video of a lion attacking a man, I suppose at a safari park, taken from within a car where the wife & children are screaming. If you turn off the sound, then you watch it and somehow you can be numb about what you see. If you turn on the sound, though, all of a sudden the spectacle makes you cringe and your emotions run high, as you hear the sheer terror & horror of those who are close to the victim. That is the problem with getting people to view the horror for what it is — the sound is off. The point of this radical Pro-Lifer, Neal Horsely, is that this is what we should be feeling for that human being that is in the womb.
I think there are many Catholics who weren’t aware of Obama’s Pro-abortion position because of the hierarchy’s lack of speaking. People here would have known because it was discussed VERY freely but for the average Catholic, it isn’t something that gets discussed.
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Joe, If there was a referendum which explicitly asked voters to say “yes” or “no” as to whether Roe v Wade should be overturned, would you say “no”? That is, return the abortion argument to the states.You said it better than I could. I believe as you, that
it is not the politicians you need to change, but the hearts of the people. The question and the resolution of abortion connot be settled at the voting polls.
So true. I don’t know that I could support militant actions, but I do know that Obama has supported forms of infanticide. What then? If abortion or birth control somehow becomes mandatory then what do we do?
It could very easily go in that direction as our history progresses. The whole discourse seems to be about changing hearts & minds versus imposing Christian ideology on society by banning abortion. I think both are absolutely necessary. We not only have to stop the mass bleeding abruptly by law, but we must also change hearts & minds by uncompromisingly teaching right from wrong in our Catholic Church as the one true church. This means denying Holy Eucharist to professed abortion advocates. This means driving home the idea that killing the human being in its earliest development stage in the womb IS EQUAL to killing a person who is born at any stage in their life. It means driving home the priorities of the various political issues and, give a clear understanding of each of the issues in terms of their weight in making decisions.
It is about changing hearts and minds. I wonder how many abortion advocates would be so vocal if they knew they’d be denied the Eucharist? Well, my hope for them is for conversion. We converted Roe (well, thank God He did) and many more. But if they’re unrepentant, then God will deal with them.
It is about changing hearts and minds, but it is also about saving lives right now. What statistical count do we need to have the abortion issue take precedence over economic choices.
Yes. How to do it other than being a good Catholic and a good example, I don’t know. It seems that the forces in our public education system and in our popular media seem to be reinforcing our free sex culture.
It has to start at home. We need to teach children, grandchildren, and those people around us to detach from the world more. It’s impossible to do so totally, but for the most part, stop watching television, listening to the radio, going to the movies. I went to a family gathering where every kid there had some sort of Gameboy. They were sitting around playing games, not interacting with each other (except two of the girls were connected playing a pet game with each other). What ever happened to interacting with family around a meal, a little music in the background???
Well - the ones that are instinctively rebels - meaning they are told go left and they go right just because they were told to go left - will certainly remain vocal. Sadly - that is a lot of the “I’m entitled” crowd. Some of them are so obnoxious about “their entitlements” that they would go so far as to physically force the issue if they thought it would get them their way. Then the question quickly becomes, “Now what?” It is one thing for the priest to stand up there and refuse to give them nothing more than a blessing, but what happens if they go so far as to reach into the container and try to take the host? And yes - some would do exactly that!
On the contrary I think they were very aware of it, it’s just that they don’t think it’s an important issue.
I agree with you - I think many were fully aware. They also thought it was more important to vote for Obama because he was black, because of the economy, because several of the bishops said no, or any number of other excuses. Sadly - all indicators after the election are that many of our bishops did exactly the same thing.
