Catholic-safe yoga practices?

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PRmerger said:
Perhaps if you could repeat what you think my argument is, then we can chat?
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That’s not really how it works. You’ve made your logically flawed argument and I’ve responded to it.

Also, as far as I know, you are not a Cardinal and we’ve already had Cardinals speak on this so I’ll take their opinion on such matters over yours, thanks.
 
DignumEtJustum said:
That’s not really how it works. You’ve made your logically flawed argument and I’ve responded to it.
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I see.

So let’s see if you can address this:

You say: it’s always wrong to do practices which originated in paganism.

I say: wearing wedding rings originated in paganism. Therefore you shouldn’t let anyone you love be wearing a wedding ring.

Your response?
 
 
PRmerger said:
I see.

So let’s see if you can address this:

You say: it’s always wrong to do practices which originated in paganism.

I say: wearing wedding rings originated in paganism. Therefore you shouldn’t let anyone you love be wearing a wedding ring.

Your response?
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DignumEtJustum said:
That’s false equivalence if I’ve ever seen it. Again, to successfully participate in yoga one must contort their bodies in such a way as to take up the postures of Hindu gods. This cannot be separated from Yoga; that’s what it is plain and simple and the Church has warned us not to participate. Who are YOU to say otherwise?!
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Also you continue to point to prayer postures and customs that have been associated with Catholicism since the beginning as some sort of justification to practice Yoga. What place exactly does the Hindu worship practice of Yoga have within Catholicism or to Catholics?!
 
PRmerger said:
This is a Protestant view, friar.
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(friard). No, it is not. We have the Holy Spirit within us. The idea of “conjuring up the Holy Spirit” is the 'protestant view (if you must put things like that), which you seem, for some other-worldly reason, known only to you, to be arguing for. Pentecostals are the ones who think we need to “conjur” Him up from outside. He is not the air, He is the Spirit of God. Our souls go inward to God, not into space.

Has faith really gotten so synthetic and syncretic… or should I say, sin-thetic and sin-cretic.
We receive the Holy Spirit at baptism and confirmation, but we “leak”.
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So the Holy Spirit is not indwelling with us, especially if we have sinned.
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The Holy Spirit is within us.

God never leaves us, completely.

Yes, we can sin, mortally. But we are still in receipt of a certain kind of grace even when not in a state of grace and therefore God does not leave us completely. Because where grace is, God is, also. Did you never question why it is that you feel inspired to go to Confession when you sin? This motivation comes from God.

You are diverting around the point anyway. Whether there are times that we can be deprived of the Holy Spirit, does not mean that the TRUE understanding, that the Holy Spirit is within us, is false. It is altogether, true.
 
PRmerger said:
Nonsequitur.
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No, it is not.
Either it’s wrong to take something from another pagan culture, or it’s permissible.
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Already answered.
Which is your position?
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Not the Hindu or the New Age one.
And remember, in a few days it’s going to be THURSDAY. A day named after a pagan God, Thor.
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Different context.
You’d better start calling it “the 4th day of the week”.
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Different context.
And if you have any friends named “Diana”, you’d better remove her from your presence. Because, you know, non-Catholic primitive religions.
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Different context.
 
PRmerger said:
Not sure I understand your point here?

If you are saying that some positions are invitations to the demonic, then shouldn’t you be worried that pointing your fingers downward in prayer is an invitation to the devil?

Shouldn’t you keep your hands folded in prayer like this ONLY?

http://www.clipartreview.com/_images_300/Hands_folded_in_prayer_100714-124235-864009.jpg
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You have misunderstood the point, completely. O
PRmerger said:
Also, can you tell me what you mean by “primitive religions”?

What makes a religion “primitive”?
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The ones which inspired sacrificing people including children to various gods.

The ones which inspire only an abstract idea of what, or who God is, which inevitably leads their understanding to mere reflections of the person’s / people’s own emotional and worldly ‘requirements’.
 
DignumEtJustum said:
forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?p=14817144#post14817144
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DignumEtJustum said:
That’s false equivalence if I’ve ever seen it.
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But I didn’t make any equivalence in my 2nd argument.

Pretend Yoga isn’t even a thing.

How do you respond to this:

You say: it’s always wrong to do practices which originated in paganism.

I say: wearing wedding rings originated in paganism. Therefore you shouldn’t let anyone you love be wearing a wedding ring.

Your response?
 
friardchips said:
(friard). No, it is not. We have the Holy Spirit within us. The idea of “conjuring up the Holy Spirit” is the 'protestant view (if you must put things like that), which you seem, for some other-worldly reason, known only to you, to be arguing for. Pentecostals are the ones who think we need to “conjur” Him up from outside. He is not the air, He is the Spirit of God. Our souls go inward to God, not into space.

Has faith really gotten so synthetic and syncretic… or should I say, sin-thetic and sin-cretic.

The Holy Spirit is within us.

God never leaves us, completely.

Yes, we can sin, mortally. But we are still in receipt of a certain kind of grace even when not in a state of grace and therefore God does not leave us completely. Because where grace is, God is, also. Did you never question why it is that you feel inspired to go to Confession when you sin? This motivation comes from God.

You are diverting around the point anyway. Whether there are times that we can be deprived of the Holy Spirit, does not mean that the TRUE understanding, that the Holy Spirit is within us, is false. It is altogether, true.
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*'1 Corinthians 6:19:

“Your body, you know, is the temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you since you received Him from God. You are not your own property; you have been bought and paid for. That is why you should use your body for the glory of God.”*
 
friardchips said:
It makes no difference if the postures are the same.
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BINGOOOOOO!!!



Case closed.

You can do the same movements as a Hindu practice, but as long as your intention isn’t to invite demons in, there’s NOTHING WRONG with doing this:

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DignumEtJustum said:
I never said that.
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Ok.

But let’s pretend Yoga isn’t a thing.

You object to practices that originated in paganism.

I remind you that wedding rings originated in pagan worship rituals. So I tell that you shouldn’t be endorsing wedding rings for your loved ones.

Your response?
 
PRmerger said:
Your response?
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I suggest you go back and figure out who you’re confusing me with.
PRmerger said:
BINGOOOOOO!!!

Case closed.

You can do the same movements as a Hindu practice, but as long as your intention isn’t to invite demons in, there’s NOTHING WRONG with doing this:
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Great logic; about the same as Protestants believing they can advocate for abortion despite the whole “thou shall not kill” thing. After all, they’re not intending to kill anyone!
 
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