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baylee
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I don’t think Santorum will be the nominee, but I do wonder whether we could see a Romney-Santorum ticket.
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Havard
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I think it’s unlikely. There’s too much overlap there, with respect to votes. Rubio, on the other hand, would gain Romney votes in demographics he wouldn’t otherwise get.
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Dale_M
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Marco Rubio seems to be on everyone’s short list for VP, but he has said repeatedly that he isn’t interested.
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CMatt25
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Yes but if asked it will be interesting if the senator who has the experience of being a senator for a grand total of 14 mos (and people think Obama was inexperienced) would go back on his word and accept being a heartbeat away from the Presidency.
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_Abyssinia
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Santorum Beat Romney Among Women Voters in Alabama and Mississippi
cnsnews.com/news/article/santorum-beat-romney-among-women-voters-alabama-and-mississippi
cnsnews.com/news/article/santorum-beat-romney-among-women-voters-alabama-and-mississippi
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CMatt25
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What demographics that Santorum or Romney would otherwise not get?
Catholics? In the case of Romney he could just as well put the 2nd place finisher for the nomination, Santorum, on the ticket if he wants a Catholic to run with him.
Cuban Americans in FL? They have historically already voted Republican in good numbers.
Otherwise I’m not yet convinced you can lump the Latino voting population all together thinking they will on the whole vote in large enough numbers to save the GOP and vote for a Santorum or Romney - Rubio ticket simply on the basis of Rubio being on the ticket.
latino.foxnews.com/latino/news/2012/03/07/marco-rubio-maintains-opposition-to-dream-act-after-meeting-with-student/
minutemanproject.com/article.php?id=96
Thinking enough people end up voting for a VP candidate and Rubio would elect Santorum or Romney, would be like saying Sarah Palin helped put John McCain in the WH because she won over in large enough numbers the female voting demographic. Didn’t happen.
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rlg94086
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Exactly. What percentage would Santorum need to win? Which is more likely considering the states still left to vote?
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62Joy
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No, because destroying the whole country without any plan to replace what you have torn down is just plain stupid. It seems the conservatives want to drag this country back to before the civil war era. Perhaps I misunderstand but your comment sounds like you are trying to say that I am motivated by wanting the government to take care of me. Please note that the last democrat I voted for, before Obama, was Hubert Humphrey when he ran against Nixon. That was a long time ago.Because governments the quick and easy answer that will make it all better!
But the GOP is not the party of Lincoln anymore. Eisenhower, Ford and even Reagan would not be far right enough for the new GOP. .Barry Goldwater’s daughter said that her dad would not be considered conservative enough and would never recognize what his party has become. I had great respect for Goldwater. The party has sold out to far right radicals in the Tea Party, where there is clear evidence that the “so called” grass roots movement started and was motivated by race, Limbaugh,Fox news and financed by the Koch Brothers. It is also interesting how the GOP has now distanced themselves from them at least until after the election. When the GOP again is about being fiscally conservative and moves more toward the center than I will join the party again. In the mean time, I think they are using us and the abortion issue to destroy what is left of the middle class and to raise up all those rich people and companies they are tied to. People like Grover Norquist. Respectfully-
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bbarrick8383
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I’m a constitutional conservative libertarian. I think the GOPs too close to the middle.
Nice try on the racist part though, keep on beating that dead horse.
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scipio337
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Bare assertion fallacy. Source of something you want torn down?
Source?
I too have a great respect for Goldwater. Can you source the “clear evidence” that the Tea Party is motivated by race? Seeing that the Tea Party movement’s primary focus has been fiscal conservativism, I’m not sure where any Goldwater Republican would call the Tea Party “radical”. Sounds a little like a Media Matters tpm.
So what recent GOP activty to you hasn’t been “fiscally conservative”? What “move to the center” would suit your sensibilities? No opposition to abortion?
The rest is class envy rhetoric.
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AJB328
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Republicans can’t be considered the party of fiscal conservatism. It’s false advertising. The national debt, starting with Reagan, grew at a much faster rate under Republicans than Democrats.
Reagan tripled the debt from $997,855,000,000.00 to $2,857,430,960,187.32
Under Bush it went from $2,857,430,960,187.32 to $4,411,488,883,139.38
Clinton $4,411,488,883,139.38 to $5,807,463,412,200.06 (the smallest amount so far)
G.W. Bush- $5,807,463,412,200.06 to $11,909,829,003,511.75
Obama- $11,909,829,003,511.75 to $15,000,000,000,000
treasurydirect.gov/govt/reports/pd/histdebt/histdebt.htm
It’s also important to note that during these times the Republican mantra was “deficits don’t matter.” Of course they matter when a Democrat gets his name on the stationary. During this time when supply side was implemented the average american’s wages flatlined while the top earners saw their own earnings nearly triple. Which brings me to my next point about why voting for Republicans based on social issues (abortion) is a misnomer too.
Republicans have held heavy sway in the forty years since Roe v. Wade and they didn’t do anything significant to reverse it. The reason is that there is a chunk of voters 5% to 8% who vote Republican solely because they oppose abortion, if that issue is off the table the Repubs will never win a national election again until they swing back to the center.
Look how far the country has swayed since the 1970’s. On matters of healthcare, public works, the environment, National Defense, taxation and trade Obama is more conservative than Eisenhower and he makes Nixon look like a hippy
Sorry for the rant. Sometimes it just seems like people aren’t interested in facts, they just want to spend their time telling themselves their team is right. I used to be a Republican, I know how it is.
Reagan tripled the debt from $997,855,000,000.00 to $2,857,430,960,187.32
Under Bush it went from $2,857,430,960,187.32 to $4,411,488,883,139.38
Clinton $4,411,488,883,139.38 to $5,807,463,412,200.06 (the smallest amount so far)
G.W. Bush- $5,807,463,412,200.06 to $11,909,829,003,511.75
Obama- $11,909,829,003,511.75 to $15,000,000,000,000
treasurydirect.gov/govt/reports/pd/histdebt/histdebt.htm
It’s also important to note that during these times the Republican mantra was “deficits don’t matter.” Of course they matter when a Democrat gets his name on the stationary. During this time when supply side was implemented the average american’s wages flatlined while the top earners saw their own earnings nearly triple. Which brings me to my next point about why voting for Republicans based on social issues (abortion) is a misnomer too.
Republicans have held heavy sway in the forty years since Roe v. Wade and they didn’t do anything significant to reverse it. The reason is that there is a chunk of voters 5% to 8% who vote Republican solely because they oppose abortion, if that issue is off the table the Repubs will never win a national election again until they swing back to the center.
Look how far the country has swayed since the 1970’s. On matters of healthcare, public works, the environment, National Defense, taxation and trade Obama is more conservative than Eisenhower and he makes Nixon look like a hippy
Sorry for the rant. Sometimes it just seems like people aren’t interested in facts, they just want to spend their time telling themselves their team is right. I used to be a Republican, I know how it is.
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Jeanne_S
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I just heard this on Rush Lambaugh.Apparently the leftist media is spinning Rick Santorums’ winning in both Alabama and Mississippi as racist
Why,you say? According to the left,the fact that white working class women overwhelmingly voted for Santorum,that must mean that race trumps their desire for control of their reproductive rights
Only problem with that theory is,there are only white men running in the primary:shrug:
Why,you say? According to the left,the fact that white working class women overwhelmingly voted for Santorum,that must mean that race trumps their desire for control of their reproductive rightsOnly problem with that theory is,there are only white men running in the primary:shrug:
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mary_bobo
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With all due respect, right out of the far left playbook. The GOP moved to the center with McCain and Dole and you see where that got us. You are concerned that the GOP should move to the center, what about the far radical left moving to the center? With regard to fiscal responsibility, what get bill has come from the Dems to curb spending and get our fiscal house in order? And I am not sure the Republicans are using the abortion issue at all except to have a respect for life expressed in their platform. I just don’t get how they are trying to destroy the middle class. All those “rich people and companies” you demean are the ones who provide the jobs for the rest of us. Using that as the Dems do is class envy plain and simple. I am surprised you have fallen for that if you truly are an admired of Goldwater.
Give this Lutheran a chance - just a chance - to vote for a Catholic this fall.Would be nice … reversal of HHS mandate and Obamacare !!!
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Caldera
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Did anyone on the left have anything to say about this?I just heard this on Rush Lambaugh.Apparently the leftist media is spinning Rick Santorums’ winning in both Alabama and Mississippi as racist
Chicago Bears’ Lovie Smith Calls on Blacks to Back Obama
news.yahoo.com/chicago-bears-lovie-smith-calls-blacks-back-obama-180305891–abc-news.html
“Our future’s looking bright, because I trust the man who’s leading us. And that man is Barack Obama,” Smith, 53, says in a new Obama campaign Web video to promote the group African-Americans for Obama.
"I have the president’s back, and it’s up to us as African-Americans to show that we have his back also."
Ninety-six percent of black voters in the latest ABC News-Washington Post poll say they approve of the way Obama has handled his job, while just 3 percent do not.
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Gift_from_God
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Not a chance. Romney will likely get the nomination and if Santorum somehow gets the nomination, he will lose to Obama
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gilliam
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I still don’t see a plasible senario where Santorum gets the nomination let alone the white house.
The best Santorum or Gingrich can hope for at this point is a brokered convention and the guys in the back room aren’t going to pick either of these guys (or Palin for that matter.) Jeb Bush, maybe.
Romney is in real trouble right now. He has had ample opportunity to seal the deal and has fallen short. The movers and shakers in the party are probably interviewing alternatives now.
The best Santorum or Gingrich can hope for at this point is a brokered convention and the guys in the back room aren’t going to pick either of these guys (or Palin for that matter.) Jeb Bush, maybe.
Romney is in real trouble right now. He has had ample opportunity to seal the deal and has fallen short. The movers and shakers in the party are probably interviewing alternatives now.
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Semper_Zelare
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I’m glad you have the gift of foresight
Anyways, I think there’s a legitimate discussion to be had as to why moderates don’t get elected, but why purists/ ideologues do.
For the Purists=
Ronald Regan
Barack Obama
For the Moderates=
John McCain
I’m sure there’s more, but I’m both too young to know, and too lazy to do the research.
Anyways, I’m sure the GOP establishment will be wringing their necks if Romney loses. There will be no excuse… that would be 2 moderates in a row losing to a far left liberal.
That would be 2 moderates losing the independents, and a far left liberal winning the independents.
HMM… seems like the Main Stream Media story doesn’t add up.
- Santorum or Gingrich could win if they threw their delegates to one or the other. I mean, that’s classic John Quincy Adams stuff right there.
- Can this party afford another Rick Perry moment? When an untested establishment backed person turns out to be a pig in a poke?
- Can this party afford another Bush?
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mary_bobo
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That’s comforting to know.
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MichaelTDoyle
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Abortion - baipa opposition
Fornication - Health Care provided condoms
Evil as good - Bullying the church to provide for sin and calling it healthcare
Vote for Obama - spiritual death
Fornication - Health Care provided condoms
Evil as good - Bullying the church to provide for sin and calling it healthcare
Vote for Obama - spiritual death
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