Catholic school lauded for withdrawing from St. Patrick’s Day Parade - Boston Globe

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** Catholic school lauded for withdrawing from St. Patrick’s Day Parade **
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The Catholic Action League of Massachusetts has commended a Catholic school in Harvard for withdrawing its band and float from Boston’s St. Patrick’s Day Parade for the second year in a row. The Immaculate Heart of Mary School decided not to participate in the parade after learning that the LGBTQ Veterans group OUTVETS would also be participating, the league said Thursday. “This valiant example of unflinching devotion to Catholic Faith and morals deserves to be both emulated by other Catholic organizations and affirmed by the Leadership of the Archdiocese of Boston” said C.J. Doyle, the league’s executive director, in a statement.
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Lifenews does have and other news sources may have a fuller story on this matter. Note, this is the 2nd year in a row, this school has withdrawn. Maybe the Crux covers it as well.
 
Really? They couldn’t march in a secular parade with a group of gay veterans. I love military types whether gay or straight because they keep us safe and I’m not impressed with people who refuse to march in parades with them because of their orientation.
 
sttcatherinefan said:
Really? They couldn’t march in a secular parade with a group of gay veterans. I love military types whether gay or straight because they keep us safe and I’m not impressed with people who refuse to march in parades with them because of their orientation.
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Regarding marriage, the organization opposes the Christian Faith - in fact, opposes the whole Natural Law that the United States was built on. The Natural Law is deeply woven into the founding documents of our country, and was already in place long before any branch of the U. S. Military. Whether the organization has gay members is not the issue, the issue is the anti-Christian agenda, even if the organization had no gay members.

What if the KKK formed a unit for veterans; would they be allowed to march in next year’s parade?
 
commenter said:
Regarding marriage, the organization opposes the Christian Faith - in fact, opposes the whole Natural Law that the United States was built on. The Natural Law is deeply woven into the founding documents of our country, and was already in place long before any branch of the U. S. Military. Whether the organization has gay members is not the issue, the issue is the anti-Christian agenda, even if the organization had no gay members.

What if the KKK formed a unit for veterans; would they be allowed to march in next year’s parade?
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By being gay? There are people who are genetically are gay. They aren’t spitting on marriage by being gay. That is just who they are. They are gay. There is nothing wrong with that. Heck, if Gi Joe and GI John want to create a marriage contract to protect their rights in the secular courts, why is that sinful?
 
sttcatherinefan said:
By being gay? There are people who are genetically are gay. They aren’t spitting on marriage by being gay. That is just who they are. They are gay. There is nothing wrong with that. Heck, if Gi Joe and GI John want to create a marriage contract to protect their rights in the secular courts, why is that sinful?
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Uh, because the Bible says it’s sinful.
 
sttcatherinefan said:
By being gay? There are people who are genetically are gay. They aren’t spitting on marriage by being gay. That is just who they are. They are gay. There is nothing wrong with that. Heck, if Gi Joe and GI John want to create a marriage contract to protect their rights in the secular courts, why is that sinful?
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“Genetically”? Saying that almost makes it sound like you want a thorough discussion on this issue and there have been quite a number in the past.

First off, I will say and I hope this does not sound discriminatory but there are very young children at the school. Perhaps the caution to not get involved in this on that level has merits.

It looks like this Immaculate Heart of Mary school is for grades 1 through 12. They also indicate they teach “Traditional Catholicism”, one of the pictures shows a Nun in a habit on the entry webpage: school.saintbenedict.com/

Still, I don’t think they are a branch out of our Conventional Catholic Churches.

Here are excerpts from a Reuters article from a few days ago:
A Roman Catholic grammar school located near Boston has pulled out of the city’s St. Patrick’s Day parade in protest over organizers’ decision to allow a gay veterans’ group to march in next month’s event.
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reuters.com/article/2015/02/27/us-usa-boston-parade-idUSKBN0LV2J720150227
 
Regina7 said:
Uh, because the Bible says it’s sinful.
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The Church says that their sex is sinful. It doesn’t say that their contractual relationship to get health benefits, tax breaks, inheritance rights, etc. is sinful.
 
sttcatherinefan said:
The Church says that their sex is sinful. It doesn’t say that their contractual relationship to get health benefits, tax breaks, inheritance rights, etc. is sinful.
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If there were such a relationship which ONLY involved such benefits, but didn’t automatically imply a sexual relationship as well, the Church might have no problem with it. But marriage is conjugal, and the very nature of marriage is disputed by this group.

So, this is something much different from refusing to march with someone who’s gay. I’m a vet and I’d march with a gay vet any day of the week. If that vet was communicating, by marching, that the Church is wrong, though, I would not.

In so much of this debate, the sides talk past each other. Those who believe people are just gay and that is who they are and therefore homosexual relationships are not wrong, start from a different assumption than the “other side.” We others believe that the attraction and temptation homosexuals feel is no more a part of “who they are” than many of the urges and impulses all of us have to varying degrees in all sorts of areas.
Every strong desire I have (and some are quite specific to ME, I’m sure) is not a justification for me to act on it. A person who urges me to do just that, is not really helping me.

Peace.
John
 
Why do we go through this every year with St. Patrick’s day and Columbus Day parades? Just stop having them, these battles with the homosexual/lesbian communities and the Native American communities serve only to cast the Catholic Church in a bad light. There are far more important battles to be fought in the courts and they do not require a public spectacle of name calling and cultural bashing.
 
The organizers of the Parade decided to turn it into a political event. The homosexual military veterans are making statement by marching in the parade as homosexuals and the school is making a statement by refusing, as Catholics, to participate.

From a Church standpoint the Parade is meaningless now. An exercise in identify politics followed by drunkenness and debauchery.
 
This has been going on since I was a kid. The scheduler elites of Boston won’t rest until ever bit of Catholic culture is stomped out in the city. This isn’t about not wanting to march next to gay people. The parade was traditionally associated with the holy day and in a lot of ways is about Saint Patrick himself. If you’re gay and want to march that’s fine, but why do you need to be singled out in a group? What does that have to do with any part of St. Patrick’s day? It’s just poor taste. I am against gay marriage, but if they were having a pride parade, I would never dare insist that I be allowed to march in their parade with pro traditional marriage signs and flags. Irish culture has long been stamped out of Massachusetts.
 
DaddyGirl said:
The parade may not have meaning for you, but it does for many, many others.

This specific parade is helmed by the Allied War Veteran’s Council. It make sense that all the different groups of veterans march in it.
Just because one of those groups happens to be homosexual people, that doesn’t make it political. There are many unique groups marching.

Aren’t there homosexuals sitting in the church pews on Sunday?
I hope the parents of these students don’t teach their children to refuse to sit next to gay people in church, or walk next to them while going up for communion.
Some priests are homosexual as well.
Does that mean no one should attend their masses?

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I’ve never been to a mass where either the parishioners or the priest were waving banners over their heads proclaiming their homosexuality
 
DaddyGirl said:
Really?
You want us to compare a group of military veterans who are gay and have fought for our country risking their lives…with the KKK, a group of murderers who lynch people to trees and torture them to death?
Seriously?
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Pssst.

huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/21/us-army-white-supremacists_n_1815137.html
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Also, since you bring up the founders of our country and founding documents…I trust, then, that you want us to go back to the original form of the Pledge of Allegiance and follow it as our founding fathers meant it to be?
Without the “under God” phrase, which was added during the Cold War?
The separation of church and state was “deeply woven into the founding documents of our country”.
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Is this going to be like a buffet where we pick and choose what we keep or are we going to bring back the whole caboodle? Like slavery? Or are we going to spin that one around and blame it solely on the “Christians” in this country?
 
DaddyGirl said:
Also, since you bring up the founders of our country and founding documents…I trust, then, that you want us to go back to the original form of the Pledge of Allegiance and follow it as our founding fathers meant it to be?
Without the “under God” phrase, which was added during the Cold War?
The separation of church and state was “deeply woven into the founding documents of our country”.

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Those founders must have a really long life considering the Pledge of Allegiance wasn’t even written until 1892.
 
RedSoxFan45 said:
This has been going on since I was a kid. The scheduler elites of Boston won’t rest until ever bit of Catholic culture is stomped out in the city. This isn’t about not wanting to march next to gay people. The parade was traditionally associated with the holy day and in a lot of ways is about Saint Patrick himself. If you’re gay and want to march that’s fine, but why do you need to be singled out in a group? What does that have to do with any part of St. Patrick’s day? It’s just poor taste. I am against gay marriage, but if they were having a pride parade, I would never dare insist that I be allowed to march in their parade with pro traditional marriage signs and flags. Irish culture has long been stamped out of Massachusetts.
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Very well said. Thanks.👍
 
sttcatherinefan said:
The Church says that their sex is sinful. It doesn’t say that their contractual relationship to get health benefits, tax breaks, inheritance rights, etc. is sinful.
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but that contractual relationship is discriminatory. If two men can have that contract then why can’t a brother and sister, mother and daughter?

Marriage implies sexual relations, that’s why.
 
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