Catholic school supporting student's choice to become transgender

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They have not, and thus I can form no view on the answer.

And cutting off an arm because “I feel like it” is not permitted either. And cutting out a healthy kidney to give to another used to be frowned upon. Eventually, the medical context was integrated into moral analysis and what was once black and white no longer was. Now I have no idea how the theological understanding of various treatments for dysphoria may develop over time, or what crosses must be carried, but as @pnewton said earlier, maybe the torches should be put out till the doctrine is developed.
 
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In what sense is being civil and charitable treating someone as if they were an “animal pet”? All I see here is a profound lack of love for a HUMAN BEING. Once upon a time, disabled people were treated in the same way, as were gay people, women, Blacks, Jews, even left-handed children, and, yes, Catholics as well, all as people to be shunned. Don’t think you are only condemning the sin, and not the sinner. You (in general) are most certainly condemning the person and making their life even harder than it already is by not even acknowledging their preferred name and instead using straw men arguments to justify downright mean behavior. No wonder some people reject religion when its proponents prefer to judge others rather than being kind toward them.
 
Did you read the OP?

It’s not a preferred name that is being forced on middle school students, but a different gender.
 
The poster I was replying to, as well as others, also refused to call transgendered children by their preferred name, calling it a part of role playing.
 
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It is only common courtesy and decency to call someone by their preferred name whatever the reason is, and it reflects a lack of charity to do otherwise.
 
It’s wrong to make children to call a girl a boy. Period.

I say even demonic.
 
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meltzerboy2 said:
The poster I was replying to, as well as others, also refused to call transgendered children by their preferred name, calling it a part of role playing.
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Ammi:
What do you think the name change is for?
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meltzerboy2 said:
It is only common courtesy and decency…
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So when do we see an answer to the question?
What is the name change for?
 
Ok… were there children involved?

How were the children treated? Were they forced to play along? Or were parents always supervising the kids with her?

Did you explain to the children that grandma is mentally sick and confused?

Are you equating transgender with severe dementia and delusion? Is a child with transgender tendencies unable to learn they have a mental disorder and learn to cope with it? Or is it so severe they cannot recognize the problem, and therefore a whole school has to play into the disorder? Then how are the other children being educated about this issue? Is it a violation of the other children or does the school have the moral right to demand they play into the disorder? How do we know each child has a healthy understanding of the disorder that they are being forced to participate in this therapeutic measure?
 
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Is there actual.evidrnce that transitioning as a child works? This is all, one big social experiment, likely without the scientific procedures to draw any certain conclusions.
 
The problem, is forcing young school children to indulge a patient’s delusions and disorders.

A school is not the environment to experiment this sort of extreme therapy. Otherwise, each child would have to be educated and assessed if they have a healthy understanding of the problem. Not to mention each parent’s consent. Which seems highly unethical parenting anyway.

So far, it doesnt look like the adults involved have a healthy understanding.
 
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A agree. But the problem is also the way the child who wants to transition is being treated. Many on this thread who defend the school assume it is just being charitable to the child to assist her in her transition. I assert, it is likely being very cruel to the child.
 
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It’s hard for me to see how everyone lying to her is giving her an opportunity to find God’s love.
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Depends on what you think the lie is… the part you will never understand and I’m sure this school is trying too, is that this child doesnt believe it’s a lie, she knows it the truth… by doing nothing but telling her she’s delusional, wrong, crazy and either needs to change or will never be accepted by God isnt going to help either.

Dont you think God knows what is happening, knows and understand what people are doing to try to help her… do not think Gos is in charge of the situation? See how this person is being treated, how people are trying to help, keep her in God’s hands?

Not everything is black and white when it comes to God. That’s why He is in charge and gives us His mercy and grace.

You always need to ask yourself if this was your child. How would you handle the situation and still keep the God love alive… I honestly dont believe calling her a liar and a sinner is the only to do that… there has to be a better way.

Do you honestly believe that God would send you to purgatory or hell if by some miracle this person is saved, ends up living a holy, godly, life… devotes every waking moment to God, because you told what you think is a lie? Repent then God will forgive you.
 
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Dont you think God knows what is happening, knows and understand what people are doing to try to help her… do not think Gos is in charge of the situation? See how this person is being treated, how people are trying to help, keep her in God’s hands?
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I do not really have an opinion about this situation, because I do not know enough, but i don’t really agree with your idea that God is in charge of every situation. Sometimes bad people do things contrary to what God wants us to do, and then things turn out badly.

Is God really in charge when crimes are committed? When dictators destroy their countries? Etc.

I’m just not sure yours is a good argument.
 
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I’m just not sure yours is a good argument.
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Maybe not but they asked… that’s what I believe.

And God is in charge, it’s just that freewill is something He gave us and never took away… and sadly some people think they know better so they do whatever they want which includes bad thing to other people. 😥
 
Exactly. So we can’t say that because a certain thing is done it’s a good thing because… God.

In this case, people are concerned because children in a Catholic school are being asked to call a girl a boy.

Is this a lie? If so, and if lying to the Nazis was a sin, then isn’t the school asking the students to commit a sin?

And if all this is the case, then is God really in charge and everything is hunky-dorey? Or not?
 
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Not asking, but requiring
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I did say not allowing children to talk about this, doesn’t help either, children should be able to discuss how they feel with a school psychologist, teacher &/or principal… having them ignored can be a very bad situation too.
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s this a lie? If so, and if lying to the Nazis was a sin, then isn’t the school asking the students to commit a sin?
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Kill… lie… kill… lie which sin should I commit to save a life?

Nothing is black and white, the same answer isnt for everyone… there are times in your life you have to trust God that what you are doing is His will even if goes against what you want to do… and yes, that also means, if deep down in my soul God wants me to tell a child they are a sinner and lier, it’s what I’ll do… but I honestly believe God wouldn’t have me do that. He would never have me do something I cant handle. I dont believe God would want me to be so unnecessarily cruel… any more then I believe God would want me to turn over anyone hiding from the Nazies, a slave to their master, an abused child back to their abuser or tell a parent who’s child just died in the most painful way possible and felt every second of it.

There has to be a better way…that’s my opinion anyway.
 
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annad347 said:
by doing nothing but telling her she’s delusional, wrong, crazy and either needs to change or will never be accepted by God isnt going to help either.
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If your case is so strong, why misrepresent other’s arguments? Why the stawman? I have not advocated any of that. A good argument is to made by presenting the opposition’s position in the best possible light and then arguing against that. A poor argument is arguing against a position the opposition has not taken.
 
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