Catholic Sex and Masterbation

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I agrea with no sex before marriage, But not no masturbating, Why not? If you dont the sperm cells die anyway so why not enjoy it? I admit i do it as i know god would want us to be happy and our sperm cells will die anyway.
 
Sex and sexual pleasure is meant to be a gift to the other person, aka your spouse. When you masturbate, you are not giving to anyone else. Sex is UNITIVE and procreative. When you masturbate, you are loosing both. No union, no chance for procreation, only selfish pleasure.
 
The reason that you need to avoid this sin is that you are training yourself to view your sexuality in a selfish way. You could end up depriving yourself and your future wife of enjoying true intimacy in your marriage by becoming so self-centered in your sexuality.

If you learn some discipline and some self-control, you will be preparing yourself to be a better husband and lover. Remember when a husband and wife share in marital relations they are truly giving themselves to each other. A habit of masturbation can prevent this from fully happening.
 
I agrea with no sex before marriage, But not no masturbating, Why not? If you dont the sperm cells die anyway so why not enjoy it? I admit i do it as i know god would want us to be happy and our sperm cells will die anyway.
This assumes that this is what God planned to make people happy. Yet as other posters have mentioned there is strong reasons for the Church to protect its children from such evils that draw us more into ourselves and less into learning to sacrifice and be a gift to others as Christ is to us. We could write long paragraphs about this and its a topic talked to death here (i think not one dead horse, but a whole calvary of dead horses has been beaten on these threads that you could search for answers). Needless to say, picking up Christopher West’s book “Good News on Sex and Marriage” should adequately answer this and many other questions. Best wishes in your search for the truth:thumbsup: .
DB (Dailybread or Dear Brother acronym whichever you prefer).
 
There are two sides to masturbation. The physical and the mental/spiritual. The physical is of course the actual act, but to perform the act, you have to think about selfish sexual acts and objectify nice people. People just like yourself. Once you get married, its still hard to stop masturbation. Even if you are having marital sex the masturbation factor is still there. When you masturbate you hurt yourself and you hurt your future spouse because she will have to be a perfect lover to compare with your “fantasy” lover.

Get rid of the mental aspect and you won’t ever get pleasure from masturbation. If you do masturbate, try not thinking about anything, just stare at a wall. It won’t be the same at all. And remember that you have commited adultary in your heart with whomever you are lusting for.
 
The reason that you need to avoid this sin is that you are training yourself to view your sexuality in a selfish way. You could end up depriving yourself and your future wife of enjoying true intimacy in your marriage by becoming so self-centered in your sexuality.

If you learn some discipline and some self-control, you will be preparing yourself to be a better husband and lover. Remember when a husband and wife share in marital relations they are truly giving themselves to each other. A habit of masturbation can prevent this from fully happening.
What about if you decide you will never marry again? I dont plan on marrying again. Been married 3 times, last one in the Church.
Marriage is not for me. So who do I share with? I am a confirmed Bachelor now.
 
There are two sides to masturbation. The physical and the mental/spiritual. The physical is of course the actual act, but to perform the act, you have to think about selfish sexual acts and objectify nice people.
Incorrect assumption.

A lot of people think that masturbation is only done with fantasies. Not so at all.
 
What about if you decide you will never marry again? I dont plan on marrying again. Been married 3 times, last one in the Church.
Marriage is not for me. So who do I share with? I am a confirmed Bachelor now.
None of these things change the immoral nature of the act.
For how do love others withot the physical intimacy of sex, I suggest you have personal talk with a faithful priest or religious sister.
 
Am not great at explaining things but i’ll try anyway!

Firstly pleasure and happiness are NOT the same thing!
Just because something is pleasurable does not mean it is good!

Although eating is pleasurable ,the purpose of eating is to nourish our bodies. Some people eat just for the pleasure, but we know this is an eating dis-order.

Masturbation is wrong for a number of different reasons.

Sex is for bonding husband and wife in marriage, and to create new life. ALL sexual acts should lead to these purposes. If the sexual act does not lead to these purposes, then it is dis-ordered.
Masturbation achieves NEITHER of these purposesand in fact causes a lot of spiritual, emotional and phychological damage.
  1. it is a sexual act that is NOT open to life
  2. Sexual acts are supposed to bond a couple in the sexual union (between man and woman). Masturbation on the other hand bonds the person to themselves and they become more selfish in their approach to sexuality, i.e. they create a “All for me” mentality.
  3. Masturbation is a homosexual act, as the person is performing this act on upon themselves (and they are of course the same sex as themselves so there is only one sex involved)
  4. It is highly addictive, in the sense that you will no longer be in control, the habit will. If you don’t believe me, try stopping!
If Masturbating is so “Right”, then why does it cause so much guit and shame? I’m sure you believe you are doing a “Good” thing but Masturbation is destructive (I’m speaking from experience)
If you have a problem with Masturbation GET HELP!
I know too many lives (and Marriages) that have been destroyed because of the attitudes it causes in those who have this problem.

I will pray for you! God bless!
 
When you masturbate you hurt yourself and you hurt your future spouse because she will have to be a perfect lover to compare with your “fantasy” lover.
That only assumes your “fantasy” lover is up to being perfect. Your normal spousal relations may still be much more enjoyable than just yourself.
 
Am not great at explaining things but i’ll try anyway!

Firstly pleasure and happiness are NOT the same thing!
Just because something is pleasurable does not mean it is good!

Although eating is pleasurable ,the purpose of eating is to nourish our bodies. Some people eat just for the pleasure, but we know this is an eating dis-order.

Masturbation is wrong for a number of different reasons.

Sex is for bonding husband and wife in marriage, and to create new life. ALL sexual acts should lead to these purposes. If the sexual act does not lead to these purposes, then it is dis-ordered.
Masturbation achieves NEITHER of these purposesand in fact causes a lot of spiritual, emotional and phychological damage.
  1. it is a sexual act that is NOT open to life (and if you had a vasectomy?)
  2. Sexual acts are supposed to bond a couple in the sexual union (between man and woman). Masturbation on the other hand bonds the person to themselves and they become more selfish in their approach to sexuality, i.e. they create a “All for me” mentality. (Never getting married again, now what?)
  3. Masturbation is a homosexual act, as the person is performing this act on upon themselves (and they are of course the same sex as themselves so there is only one sex involved) (First time I have ever heard that)
  4. It is highly addictive, in the sense that you will no longer be in control, the habit will. If you don’t believe me, try stopping! (I have stopped and it has been almost a month…False statement in my case)
    If Masturbating is so “Right”, then why does it cause so much guit and shame? I’m sure you believe you are doing a “Good” thing but Masturbation is destructive (I’m speaking from experience)** (Being single, I have never felt guilty, not once or has it been destructive)**If you have a problem with Masturbation GET HELP!
    I know too many lives (and Marriages) that have been destroyed because of the attitudes it causes in those who have this problem.
I will pray for you! God bless!
None of this reflects to a single man, only married ones.
 
outfctrl,

If you or anyone else is planning not to get married/married again, they you all would be in some good company with holy priests, religious and other singles. Sexual pleasure was designed for marriage and should not be “taken out of context.”

God bless you.
 
None of this reflects to a single man, only married ones.
How so?

If you don’t have a wife, you don’t engage in sexual acts, primarily because of reason #1 given by Pat the Cat:
it is a sexual act that is NOT open to life
As a Catholic, you are called to celibacy in your situation.
 
How so?

As a Catholic, you are called to celibacy in your situation.
I am realizing that everyday. I guess I am fishing for support in my situation. It is very hard for me to fathom not ever having sex again, since I used to be very active.

I came back to the Church and my faith out of love for the Holy Spirit. It will take allot of prayers and perseverence on my part to do this. Maybe a few from some of you will help also.

Thanks all…I really hope I dont fail
 
How would you explain “Wet dreams” then?
Yes, I wonder that as well. I don’t know if grown men have them (I’m not a man), but I do know that this happens to boys and teenage boys often. They don’t realize it is happening while they are sleeping. Would that be considered a sin if they don’t know that they are doing it?

I don’t know how to say this discreetly, but I’ve also seen baby girls and toddlers doing things with the buckle of their car seats or if they are at a park or sitting on a bike, etc. The parents either ignore the baby or look in shock that a person that little would even do something like that. When I was a teenager and caught these little girls doing this, I didn’t know what to do - I was too much in shock. So, I’d get them distracted to play something like dolls or a game. And at that time, for me, it was too embarrassing to tell the parents that their baby girl or little girl was masterbating. They are too young to know from right and wrong. Also, how do you talk to a toddler or little child about that sort of thing to let them know that what they are doing is not right? They are too young to even realize that it is something sexual.
 
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When you masturbate you hurt yourself and you hurt your future spouse because she will have to be a perfect lover to compare with your “fantasy” lover.

nice point of view…:clapping:
 
Yes, I wonder that as well. I don’t know if grown men have them (I’m not a man), but I do know that this happens to boys and teenage boys often. They don’t realize it is happening while they are sleeping. Would that be considered a sin if they don’t know that they are doing it?
Wet dreams are fine, according to the Church. It happens when you are sleeping and since you do not have any control over your dreams, you have no culpability. It’s not like you chose to comit the sin at all.

And yes, men get this throughout their lives…even married men.
Personally It’s only like 2 times a year for me, but all men get this.

It’s the body’s way of getting rid of the frustrations that we are not allowed to get rid of ourselves.
 
Wet dreams are fine, according to the Church. It happens when you are sleeping and since you do not have any control over your dreams, you have no culpability. It’s not like you chose to comit the sin at all.

And yes, men get this throughout their lives…even married men.
Personally It’s only like 2 times a year for me, but all men get this.
Thanks, PennitentMan. Funny enough, it was never something I ever talked about with my husband. We talk about practically everything, too, so it’s funny to me that I this subject never actually came up for us.
 
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