Catholic teaching not found in the Bible

[paarsurrey]

Right. Look it up, you will not find the word “Trinity” in there.

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The word Trinity is not there in the Bible; and it should not be as Jesus and Mary were Jews, they never held these doctrines. It was later invented by Paul at Rome when Jesus alongwith Mary had gone on his journey/exile to India, after the incident of Crucifixion in which he made good his escape from the cursed death on Cross with the mercy of GodAllahYHWH to fullfil Sign of Jonah. No doubt Paul had differences with Jesus and Mary.

This is my opinion; others are welcome to differ with me politely and with sound reasons.

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[xixxvmcm85]

Hi

The word Trinity is not there in the Bible; and it should not be as Jesus and Mary were Jews, they never held these doctrines. It was later invented by Paul at Rome when Jesus alongwith Mary had gone on his journey/exile to India, after the incident of Crucifixion in which he made good his escape from the cursed death on Cross with the mercy of GodAllahYHWH to fullfil Sign of Jonah. No doubt Paul had differences with Jesus and Mary.

This is my opinion; others are welcome to differ with me politely and with sound reasons.

Thanks

It would be nice if you could substantiate some of your opinion with some physical evidence. Thanks

 

[paarsurrey]

I would argue that it is implied even “loosely”, otherwise the only alternative is that the Bible contradicts itself.

The Trinity is the obvious, logical interpolation of the cumulative effect of all these verses.

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Maybe Paul did it cleverly so that the followers of Jesus should not protest against Paul’s endeavours of importing a new theology from the pagans.

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[paarsurrey]

You can also arrive at the Papacy and the Immaculate Conception in a similar way, but first you have to know which verses to look at - this, we get from the Oral Tradition.

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There is no likelihood of any Oral Tradition from Jesus or Mary, as Paul the proponant of this innovation had not met Jesus or trained by Jesus. Paul did it on his own and did not consult Jesus and Mary in this connection.

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[paarsurrey]

Catholic (Katholikos) just means universal. We are the Church in Acts, which is universal (Catholic).

Jesus was only a Messenger of GodAllahYHWH unto the Jews. The universalization was an unauthorised attempt of Paul, I think.

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[estesbob]

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Maybe Paul did it cleverly so that the followers of Jesus should not protest against Paul’s endeavours of importing a new theology from the pagans.

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OR maybe you have a distored view of scripture given your ahderence to a man made faith created 600 years after Paul preached?

This is the very first time Ihave EVER heard someone claim Paul imported a new theology from the Pagans. Perhaps you could expand on this?

 

[estesbob]

Jesus was only a Messenger of GodAllahYHWH unto the Jews. The universalization was an unauthorised attempt of Paul, I think.

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How do you reconcile this with Jesus’s conversation with the woman at the well?

 

[bpbasilphx]

A lot of things dear to the hearts of “Bible only” Christians are not in the Bible, either.

Among them is the formula “personal Savior.”

 

[paarsurrey]

Yes. The whole Church was always Catholic until in 1517 the Protestants started making divisions in it.

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As was Paul doing things without any legal authority from Jesus or Mary; so did the Protestants. The faithful only sincerely followed them; they had no choice.

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[Benadam]

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I also don’t find Trinity mentioned in the Bible from Word of revelation from GodAllahYHWH or Word from the mouth of JesusYeshuaIssa or from Mary. People try to derive these concepts from very far fetched interpretition; without any clarity for such basic issues.

Others are welcome to differ with me with sound reasons.

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paarsurrey said:

*Anybody who sincerely is a follower of Jesus; should do acts that Jesus did himself and have concepts unequivocally held by Jesus and Mary as they only received Word of Revelation directly from *GodAllahYHWH

How is it that the concepts you believe are attached to the words in your bible are one and the same as the concepts in the minds of Jesus and Mary?

 

[estesbob]

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As was Paul doing things without any legal authority from Jesus or Mary; so did the Protestants. The faithful only sincerely followed them; they had no choice.

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Legal authority from Mary??? What the heck does that mean???

Paul was given Authority by Jesus himslef on the Road to Damascus.

 

[xixxvmcm85]

Hi

Maybe Paul did it cleverly so that the followers of Jesus should not protest against Paul’s endeavours of importing a new theology from the pagans.

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Oh, so physical evidence equates to a conspiracy theory to you.

Ok, let’s try this again:

What leads you to believe that Paul “cleverly placed such passages in the Bible”?

You do know that the entire NT was not authored by St. Paul, correct?

 

[Benadam]

Muslim’s claim incorruptibility because their revelation is divine. Yet they claim that the revelation introduced by Jesus was divine.

 

[paarsurrey]

It would be nice if you could substantiate some of your opinion with some physical evidence. Thanks

The Sign of Jonah was for the adulterous Jews. They all believed that Jonah, miraculously or otherwise, survived for three days and nights in the belly of the fish and did not die in that period for a single moment.

The sign is fullfilled only if Jesus also does not die for a single moment while Jesus was on the Cross and in the tombe where he was laid for treatment of his injuries. If this does not happen then the sign is not fullfilled as per Jews . The similarities of the event with Jonah speak clearly of Jesus spending three days and nights in extremely precarious circumstances and a miraculous revival from near death, and not of coming back to life from the dead. The same, Jesus claimed, would happen in his case.

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[paarsurrey]

OR maybe you have a distored view of scripture given your ahderence to a man made faith created 600years after Paul preached?

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We belive in Jesus and Mary; we have nothing to do with the clever innovation of Paul.
Muhammad did not author any book; he never knew reading and writing. Yes, he received Word of Revelation from the mouth of GodAllahYHWH as did Moses and Jesus.

Sorry I don’t want to go in the details; as that would be off-topic.

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[paarsurrey]

A lot of things dear to the hearts of “Bible only” Christians are not in the Bible, either.

Among them is the formula “personal Savior.”

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That is equally not good for the Protestants. If Paul did things unauthorized from Jesus; that gives no authority to Protestant to introduce things which were not explicitly mentioned by Jesus.

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[paarsurrey]

paarsurrey said:

*Anybody who sincerely is a follower of Jesus; should do acts that Jesus did himself and have concepts unequivocally held by Jesus and Mary as they only received Word of Revelation directly from *GodAllahYHWH

How is it that the concepts you believe are attached to the words in your bible are one and the same as the concepts in the minds of Jesus and Mary?

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At least my concepts tally with those mentioned in the OTBible and Quran.

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[paarsurrey]

Legal authority from Mary??? What the heck does that mean???

Paul was given Authority by Jesus himslef on the Road to Damascus.

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Mary was alive though Jesus disappeared as per the CatholicsProtestants. Now Mary is held with great esteem by the my Catholic friends. Paul should have consulted her in every crucial matters. It is so simple to grasp.

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[paarsurrey]

Oh, so physical evidence equates to a conspiracy theory to you.

Ok, let’s try this again:

What leads you to believe that Paul “cleverly placed such passages in the Bible”?

You do know that the entire NT was not authored by St. Paul, correct?

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Kindly mention who authored it.

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[paarsurrey]

Muslim’s claim incorruptibility because their revelation is divine. Yet they claim that the revelation introduced by Jesus was divine.

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Yes, there is not a single Muslim who does not belive that Jesus did receive Word of Revelation from GodAllahYHWH. It is another thing that it could not be preserved by his people.

But there is nothing to woryy; GodAllahYHWH revealed Jesus’ and Mary’s essential life accounts on Muhammad as mentioned in Quran. At least there is something authentic with us; a good gesture of peace on the part of Islam/Quran/Muhammad.

Let us work for the peace of the world so vital for humanity.

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