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SpiritMeadow
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Most fundamentalist schools require loyalty oaths that nothing will be taught that is counter to a literal interprestation of the bible. Those atheists who have an agenda, and some no doubt do, love to see people bogged down in this no win argument. Science goes on, while fundie Catholics and protestants waste their time and money arguing about creationism and ID. And of course don’t spend time fighting real problems in the world.Our fundie friends of course always miss the fact that their stubborn adherence to nonsense is always conterproductive. Too funny.First of all, let me precede my comments by saying that I haven’t seen the film, but have read a lot about its contents, and am going to see it within the next month.
I think religious people are being guided to focus on this issue, but it is clearly a false line of reasoning.
Religious people are getting confused about what these atheist scientists’ themselves are claiming is science and what isn’t. This is the perfect example of building up the straw man argument. These atheist scientists very well know what is the dividing line between science and philosophy, and they are not “masquerading fraud” in the slightest, unless you incorrectly presuppose that they are only allowed to talk about science in these type of forums.
Like I said, being able to discern what is science and what is philosophy is not something that Catholic individuals on this forum have a monopoly on.
Also, you can’t have your religious philosophy and then just choose whatever pieces of science that you would like that supports it. These atheist scientists aren’t calling out religious people for purely the actions of trying their hands at the proving of Creationist or I.D. areas by using science, but time and time again because they are doing the science wrong, and then parading it as good science. Science has a monopoly on what is good science.
But on the flip side, the religious, DON’T have a monopoly on what is good philosophy. But that isn’t even what the religious are criticizing these atheist scientists on, but on just the fact that they are USING philosophy in their arguments.
Atheists also consider these life processes as spectacular.
Besides the fact that these individuals were coerced under false pretenses to speak, they have been quoted afterward that their views were chopped up and misrepresented to suit the filmmakers’ beliefs.
But even without that, the alleged “pompousness” says nothing about their arguments. And the alleged “foolishness” is very debatable.
Hopefully this isn’t the tired old eugenics-Darwin-Nazi connection argument again. THe logic usually goes that anything that can be somehow linked to Nazism can ONLY be a bad thing. Hopefully, you can see the flaw in that logic.
I think it is wrong that there have been scientists who just have certain beliefs being repressed, however, I usually haven’t heard all the specifics behind how much of that was going into their work, and it could be argued that not all scientists will ever truly be allowed to have free reign on their work for practical administrative purposes. With that said, you should also read up on the examples of Creationist/ID administrators firing people who wanted to teach evolution in their schools, or firing those who were against not teaching it.