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TheresaL:
My son is a senior in high school trying to sort through the endless college literature that comes in the mail, make college visits, and try to figure out what career he would like to pursue. If he would choose a Catholic University, I would like it to be truly Catholic. (My daughter attends a “Catholic” university that is anything but Catholic.) Does anyone know which Catholic Universities are loyal to the teachings of the Church? I know of Ave Maria University- Michigan and Florida, Franciscan University, and Benedictine University in Kansas.
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Living in Chicago my whole life I would definitely NOT waste my money on DePaul and Loyola in Chicago. They are Catholic in name ONLY and as far as I’m concerned should no longer we called Catholic schools.
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Mandatum Schools

This is a partial list of U.S. Catholic Universities who publicly require all Catholic theology professors to have the mandatum (their bishop´s recognition of their pledge to teach in communion with the magisterium of the Church). Contact editor@ncregister.com to add your school.

Canon 812 reads: “It is necessary that those who teach theological disciplines in any institute of higher studies have a mandatum from the competent ecclesiastical authority.”

Aquinas College, Nashville, Tennessee

Ave Maria College, Ypsilanti, Michigan

Ave Maria University, Naples, Florida

Belmont Abbey College, Belmont, North Carolina

Benedictine College, Atchison, Kansas

Our Lady of Corpus Christi, Corpus Christi, Texas

DeSales University, Center Valley, Pennsylvania

Franciscan University of Steubenville, Steubenville, Ohio

Magdalen College, Warner, New Hampshire

Our Lady of Holy Cross College, New Orleans, Louisiana

St. Gregory´s University, Shawnee, Oklahoma

University of Dallas, Dallas, Texas

University of St. Thomas, Houston, Texas

Oath of Fidelity Schools

This is a partial list of schools whose theology faculties have taken fidelity oaths in lieu of the mandatum. Most are in dioceses where the local bishop has not offered the mandatum. Contact editor@ncregister.com to add your school.

Christendom College, Front Royal, Virginia

Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, California
Mandatum Universities/Colleges Listing!

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JMJ_Pinoy said:
I’m not sure if all of these Catholic universities/colleges are loyal to the teachings of the Church, but you can research them if you like:

Ave Maria College
Ave Maria School of Law
Benedictine College
Catholic Distance University
Catholic University of America
Chreighton University
Christendom College
Christian Brothers University
College of Our Lady of Corpus Christi
College of St. Thomas More
DePaul University
Franciscan University of Steubenville
Gannon University
Georgetown University
Gonzaga University
International Catholic University
Magdalen College
Marquette University
Marymount University
St. Ambrose University
St. Edward’s University
St. John’s University
St. Joseph University
St. Louis University
St. Mary’s University
St. Thomas Aquinas College
Thomas Aquinas College
University of Notre Dame
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If you want to send your son/daughter to an Orthodox Catholic University then I would definitely NOT send them to DePaul, Georgetown, Gonzaga, Marquette and as long as Fr. MrBrien is still at Notre Dame I would never even consider the school.

Others I have heard are NOT Orthodox Catholic are Villanova and Loyola Chicago. I think Franciscan University in Stuebenville, Ohio is excellent! Just my thoughts.
 
From what I’ve heard, Steubenville is excellent. I myself visited both Creighton and Benedictine.

Benedictine is very orthodox and the spiritual climate there is excellent. My concern with going there was not with the professors, as they have good science and theology programs, but rather with the caliber of the other students. I was afraid of repeating my high school situation in which I didn’t have to try and was therefore not challenged.

Creighton’s academics are excellent, particularly for a school in the midwest. Had I not received a full-ride scholarship to the university of tulsa, I most certainly would have attended Creighton.

I have 2 friends at Creighton and 4 at Benedictine, so I’ll try to get there opinions on the orthodoxy of the colleges.
 
I am a graduate of Franciscan University of Steubenville. I’d HIGHLY recommend it to anyone.
 
I am a graduate of Franciscan University of Steubenville. I’d HIGHLY recommend it to anyone
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Ditto. Class of '04 here.

There have been quite a few other threads on this same topic. I would suggest browsing the family life section back more.

I know I have personally posted on at least 3 threads just like this one, talking about how great Steubenville is.
 
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PLAL:
Living in Chicago my whole life I would definitely NOT waste my money on DePaul and Loyola in Chicago. They are Catholic in name ONLY and as far as I’m concerned should no longer we called Catholic schools.
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Bummer. Thanks for the insight, though.

The problem with the official mandatum schools is they are out of state and that is not an option for her right now…

So, here’s the thing…she has attended public schools all along. We have raised her in the faith, true to the magesterium. We have taught her how to use her gifts from the sacraments in the secular school environment she’s in to be a light to those around her. She’s real good at it, too.

All along we were set on her attending a public university with the same spirit and mission…but looking at the list of courses in Catholicism DePaul offers is appealing…while DePaul may be in-name-only, for the most part, it does have an element of magesterium teaching present (so it seems from the courses and the faculty)…so which is better for my daughter:

public university with no Catholic magesterium offerings available to her

or

in-name-only Catholic university where she can perhaps help to initiate a change toward magesterium in her time there (through social activism, etc.)?

You may know already from my previous posts that I tend to like to remain and fight for what’s right, affecting change from within … and I’ve raised my children to do the same, so you can see why I’d even consider sending her to DePaul despite the in-name-only branding…I honestly would appreciate any insight though.
 
Aaron I.:
From what I’ve heard, Steubenville is excellent.
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I visited the Steubenville website and it says that campus will be closing.

I see Franciscan University is still open…they don’t have a Theater Arts Major, which is her first choice…they do have radio/television/journalism (her second choice)…their study abroad is Austria or Rome, and she’s looking for a year in France…so…I don’t know how good a fit that would be for her.

I wonder which Steubenville school I was looking at before…
 
Steubenville is not closing, I promise!

They do have a theater group that does regular productions throughout the year, and I have personally knowns someone who graduated from the communications arts program- he said it was very good.

As for studying abroad. The school has a second campus in Austria and every student is encouraged to take a semester there. There are class trips to Rome and Assisi. Each school week the kids only have class 3 days so that the other 4 can be spent travelling Europe. My sister was there in spring 04 and my youngest sister is there now, they both cannot say enough good things about it. There is a joke that everyone who comes back from there says “I just got back from Austria and it changed my life!”

I was never able to go, unforunately. 😦

If your daugher would like to talk to a student or visit the school, let me know and I can hook her up with my little sisters (one is early education graduating 06, the other nursing graduating 08)
 
A lot of the Jesuit, no matter how much I love them, are not as orthodox and strict… yet still are good schools… Thomas Aquanis is one of the best I hear…

Laura 😛
 
My wife got her PhD at St. Louis University. That fine institution and its Jesuit campus ministry are the prime reason my wife became Catholic. It’s a fine school.

John
 
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kristacecilia:
Steubenville is not closing, I promise!

They do have a theater group that does regular productions throughout the year, and I have personally knowns someone who graduated from the communications arts program- he said it was very good.
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I see they have a Drama Degree…but the emphasis is on Literature, History, Directing and Stagecraft/Design…which doesn’t really address her desire to be a stage actor.

But…the other day, she gloomily said to me, “Mom, being an actor would be sinful wouldn’t it?” In her mind being Maria in West Side Story, or one of the characters of Chicago, or even Guys & Dolls, let alone recent stage productions would be off limits to her as a Catholic.

I didn’t think that was the case, but I really didn’t have an answer… but I did tell her there are Catholic Universities who are offering degree programs regarding media, plays, etc. because they are trying to develop a fresh, moral-minded, pool of producers, directors, actors, screenwriters, etc. in order to change the death-culture of our current media programming.

So, I’ll print out the stuff from Steubenville to see what she thinks…but she’s really trying to stay in the Chicago area because of her friends who plan to be there and because of the opportunities to do stage/radio work there (though she’d be closer to NY in Steubenville).

Thanks for the info though…it’s been good…I’ll keep your offer in mind about the sisters.
 
John Higgins:
My wife got her PhD at St. Louis University. That fine institution and its Jesuit campus ministry are the prime reason my wife became Catholic. It’s a fine school.

John
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Impressive! sigh if I could start again…
 
John Higgins:
My wife got her PhD at St. Louis University. That fine institution and its Jesuit campus ministry are the prime reason my wife became Catholic. It’s a fine school.

John
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Not to question your wife’s experience, but when I visited the campus last year, it was not possible to buy a Catholic Bible on campus :eek: (the bookstore had only King James) and the tour of the campus minorly included the Chapel – as a tourist attraction :mad: . Needless to say, I was not impressed and will not be attending there.
 
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TheresaL:
My son is a senior in high school trying to sort through the endless college literature that comes in the mail, make college visits, and try to figure out what career he would like to pursue. If he would choose a Catholic University, I would like it to be truly Catholic. (My daughter attends a “Catholic” university that is anything but Catholic.) Does anyone know which Catholic Universities are loyal to the teachings of the Church? I know of Ave Maria University- Michigan and Florida, Franciscan University, and Benedictine University in Kansas.
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Dear Theresa,

There is a small, very Catholic college in Ontario, Canada called Our Lady Seat of Wisdom Academy . I went there several years ago when they only had a one-year certificate, but now they have a three-year program that is amazing. Credits are directly transferable to Franciscan University and Ave Maria University.

One of the benefits of OLSWA is that it only costs $7000 Canadian per year, including room and board. A person can take the three-year program and finish a degree at FUS or AMU in a single year. This would mean savings of about $110k US over a three-year period if you wanted to attend FUS. Check out the credit transfer options here.

I know that it is a faithful institution because, first of all, I went there, second, because I know many of the professors personally (I actually knew the founders before they started the college), and third, because I have a nephew who finished the three-year program last year and is attending FUS as we speak.

The students form a tight-knit community. There are only about 35 students attending, and the class sizes are around 16 students in the first year, and smaller in the 2nd and 3rd years. Personal attention is given to the students academically, spiritually, and in other ways as well. The professors care a great deal for the growth of each student, and it shows.

I still keep in touch (though not as well as I would like) with my friends from my year at OLSWA. I also have been reaping the rewards of the education I got there ever since. They form the mind of the student with sound philosophy and logic. They enrich the faith of the student with Christian doctrine, theology, and history. In short, they produce incredible Catholic men and women for very little money in an almost ideal atmosphere.

I hope that you find a suitable school for your son to attend. I would say that OLSWA would be it.

God bless,

Agricola
 
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stanley123:
Would it be better for parents to spend their hard earned money on tuition at a Baptist college, where this type of lewd play is not being shown?
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Who cares?

I mean, let’s live in the real world for just a minute, shall we? You’re talking about (at least) an 18-year-old adult. I assume attendance at this “lewd play” isn’t compulsory. Why not trust your child to behave as you raised him and not go?

Because, as we who went to college know perfectly well, there is a world outside the university gates. You may send your child to the most orthodox university around, but there’s still a world just outside the gates (except possibly in Ontario).

You can’t raise your children in a bubble. If you want a university where the classes are taught according to the mandatum, that’s your choice. (And your child’s; I assume, if you’re placing this requirement, you’re also writing the cheques?) But to accept or reject a school solely because it has a GLTB club or the occasional raunchy play is a little much.
 
Penny Plain:
Because, as we who went to college know perfectly well, there is a world outside the university gates. You may send your child to the most orthodox university around, but there’s still a world just outside the gates (except possibly in Ontario).

You can’t raise your children in a bubble. If you want a university where the classes are taught according to the mandatum, that’s your choice. (And your child’s; I assume, if you’re placing this requirement, you’re also writing the cheques?) But to accept or reject a school solely because it has a GLTB club or the occasional raunchy play is a little much.
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:yup: 👍 I second that!

Eamon
 
Penny Plain:
You can’t raise your children in a bubble…
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I guess this points out the difference between the Catholic schools and the Baptist schools. In Catholic schools, its OK to celebrate Ash Wednesday by having students participate in a lewd play which supports the idea that a young lady may attain her personal salvation by having lesbian relations with an older lesbian lady. In a Baptist school, family values are promoted and taught and students are discouraged from promoting lesbianism or promoting single sex marriage.
 
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stanley123:
I guess this points out the difference between the Catholic schools and the Baptist schools. In Catholic schools, its OK to celebrate Ash Wednesday by having students participate in a lewd play which supports the idea that a young lady may attain her personal salvation by having lesbian relations with an older lesbian lady. In a Baptist school, family values are promoted and taught and students are discouraged from promoting lesbianism or promoting single sex marriage.
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No good girl was ever ruined by a book. Or, for that matter, by a play.

Seriously, what do you think is going to happen? Virginal red-haired Mary Margaret O’Malley, who has dreamed all her life of marriage and a football team of strapping Irish sons, is going to be lured to this play by a radical nun and emerge a raving lesbian with a purple crewcut and a Harley? How does this work?

On a related note, why does the Newman Society find itself unable to use the word “vagina” in its advertisements? Research shows that slightly more than 50 percent of Americans have one, you know.

And do you think the Newman Society’s hysteria over this matter might have anything to do with its fundraising efforts? Nah.

[Edit: I notice that even Catholic Answers’ slightly prudish software, which edits out words such as &(, (^&, ^^^^^^^!!!, and !@#$%^&-)(&^%$$%^$##(*&, views “vagina” as an acceptable word. So what’s with the Newman Society?]
 
Penny Plain:
No good girl was ever ruined by a book. Or, for that matter, by a play.?]
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If you are representing the Catholic point of view, then I guess that this would point out the difference between Catholicism and the Baptist view on things. In some Catholic schools, there is no ban on lewd plays which promote lesbian activity and it is fine and dandy to promote lesbian activity between a younger female and an older lesbian lady, whereas this would be frowned upon at Baptist schools, where family life is emphasized. Further, it appears that it is just fine and dandy for publications at some Catholic schools to come out in favor of single sex marriage, whereas this would not be the case in more conservative Protestant schools.
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The Bible clearly and succinctly states in Leviticus 18:22 that “You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination,” and in Leviticus 20:13, “If a man lies with a male as with a woman both of them have committed an abomination; they shall be put to death; their blood is upon them.”
 
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