Catholic University in Belgium Sacks Lecturer Who Called Abortion the Murder of an Innocent Person

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Let’s presume that we agree on the general cautioning of teachers, then treat the matter fairly on both sides. If any lecturer in any educational institution injects his/her pro-abortion view upon their students in moral philosophy class, shouldn’t it be ground for dismissal?
 
Where I live, Catholic universities are not just for Catholics nor is adherence to the Catholic faith an expectation or requirement for students. It is not a seminary or anything vaguely resembling that.

We don’t know the full context of this particular man’s actions. It is not sufficient to recognize he spoke the truth we Catholics believe and thus conclude he’s done no wrong. Is it ok to hop up on the soap box and “lecture” on moral ills and present catholic doctrines in the midst of that particular class, should the lecturer feel so inclined?

I took a “philosophy of religion” course once. Had the lecturer exhorted us all to see “the light”, to recognize the “truth of the one true church” - he would also be quite out of line.

I don’t say the university was right to fire him. But it is wrong to conclude (given limited information) that the university erred.
If the University had claimed his actions were not part of the relevant Philosophy curriculum, that all may be true.

Instead, after feminist protest, they made some garbage argument about the legality of abortion under Belgium’s laws.Thinking back to numerous times in world history when laws directly contradicted Catholic teaching, that’s about the worst possible argument I can think of. As such, they appear to be cowards or abortion supporters.

once they clarify, i’ll confirm or rescind the image they have presented us.

It’s akin to Belmont Abbey firing a Philosphy professor for stating the true nature of marriage according to natural law and Catholic teaching because “hey, the USSC said that’s legal bro. Get out.”
 
There is much speculation here. We don’t have the specifics.

If the lecturer had said: “Let’s consider the position of the Catholic Church. It holds that life begins at conception and…etc etc…abortion is a sin…depriving life from an innocent human…the same species of act as murder…”.

Now I think we can be sure that presenting that information, accurately and dispassionately, could be well in scope for the class and would be no grounds for complaint, let alone disciplinary action.

It seems very likely the lecturer’s behaviour was quite different.
 
There is much speculation here. We don’t have the specifics.

If the lecturer had said: “Let’s consider the position of the Catholic Church. It holds that life begins at conception and…etc etc…abortion is a sin…depriving life from an innocent human…the same species of act as murder…”.

Now I think we can be sure that presenting that information, accurately and dispassionately, could be well in scope for the class and would be no grounds for complaint, let alone disciplinary action.

It seems very likely the lecturer’s behaviour was quite different.
Let’s assume for the moment what you speculated was entirely true. Was it a fireable or dismissal offense? Does this university apply the same severe disciplinary action toward other lecturers who commit the similar offense?
 
Let’s assume for the moment what you speculated was entirely true. Was it a fireable or dismissal offense? Does this university apply the same severe disciplinary action toward other lecturers who commit the similar offense?
Since we lack detail on both questions, we can’t know.

My speculation as to the (non) consequences of informing the class of the Catholic position is I think reasonable. That the Church takes that position is a fact not in dispute.

Speculation as to whether the university acted reasonably in dealing with the lecturer is guesswork for the reasons given.
 
Where I live, Catholic universities are not just for Catholics nor is adherence to the Catholic faith an expectation or requirement for students. It is not a seminary or anything vaguely resembling that.

We don’t know the full context of this particular man’s actions. It is not sufficient to recognize he spoke the truth we Catholics believe and thus conclude he’s done no wrong. Is it ok to hop up on the soap box and “lecture” on moral ills and present catholic doctrines in the midst of that particular class, should the lecturer feel so inclined?

I took a “philosophy of religion” course once. Had the lecturer exhorted us all to see “the light”, to recognize the “truth of the one true church” - he would also be quite out of line.

I don’t say the university was right to fire him. But it is wrong to conclude (given limited information) that the university erred.
The main problem is that many (if not most) Catholic Colleges / Universities in Europe and the Americas are in open/public dissent to Ex corde Ecclesiae.

The fundamental purpose of a Catholic college is evangelization, catechesis, and providing a Catholic atmosphere to foster a Catholic worldview in academics.

If a Catholic college does not put these things first, then there is no reason for it to exist.

Sure, Catholic colleges don’t all have to be seminaries; but they should be promoting & supporting the Catholic worldview.
 
…The fundamental purpose of a Catholic college is evangelization, catechesis, and providing a Catholic atmosphere to foster a Catholic worldview in academics.

If a Catholic college does not put these things first, then there is no reason for it to exist.

Sure, Catholic colleges don’t all have to be seminaries; but they should be promoting & supporting the Catholic worldview.
I agree. However, that does not bear directly on whether this lecturer acted improperly or properly. Eg. If he explained the Catholic teaching, that would likely be proper. If he declared in an aggressive tone that “any woman sitting in this lecture theatre who has had an abortion is guilty of murder…”, that would likely be improper (never mind the ambiguity in the reference to murder).

I also suspect that the implications of a university being “catholic” are not appreciated by many stakeholders and observers.
 
I agree. However, that does not bear directly on whether this lecturer acted improperly or properly. Eg. If he explained the Catholic teaching, that would likely be proper. If he declared in an aggressive tone that “any woman sitting in this lecture theatre who has had an abortion is guilty of murder…”, that would likely be improper (never mind the ambiguity in the reference to murder).

I also suspect that the implications of a university being “catholic” are not appreciated by many stakeholders and observers.
True. But this is Belgium. So I fear that whatever voice inflection, tone, etc that he used was just an excuse to remove a professor that didn’t follow the atheistic and liberal agenda of the secularists in power.
 
There is much speculation here. We don’t have the specifics.

If the lecturer had said: “Let’s consider the position of the Catholic Church. It holds that life begins at conception and…etc etc…abortion is a sin…depriving life from an innocent human…the same species of act as murder…”.

Now I think we can be sure that presenting that information, accurately and dispassionately, could be well in scope for the class and would be no grounds for complaint, let alone disciplinary action.

It seems very likely the lecturer’s behaviour was quite different.
Looking at the article, the only clear fact that emerges is that the university justified non-opposition to abortion as it “stressed that abortion was legal in Belgium since 1990 and it respected women’s autonomy to opt for it.”

It does not give any clear criticism of Mercier’s personal approach which would certainly be expected if he had acted in an unprofessional or unethical manner.

Hence one can assume it to be more likely that the University took exception to Mercier’s pro-lie stance as such rather than the manner in which he disseminated it.
 
Looking at the article, the only clear fact that emerges is that the university justified non-opposition to abortion as it “stressed that abortion was legal in Belgium since 1990 and it respected women’s autonomy to opt for it.”

It does not give any clear criticism of Mercier’s personal approach which would certainly be expected if he had acted in an unprofessional or unethical manner.

Hence one can assume it to be more likely that the University took exception to Mercier’s pro-lie stance as such rather than the manner in which he disseminated it.
I think that’s a completely unsafe assumption given the limited fact base.

It is not a sackable offence to be “pro-life” in any jurisdiction. But to declare abortion “murder” (in the relevant context) - contrary to the law of the land - is asking for trouble, I would think. By all accounts he was not exposing Church teaching (for students to consider), but personal views presented in strident fashion.

Nothing can be concluded from the absence of personal criticism of the lecturer. Such would typically provide additional grounds for the predictable wrongful dismissal lawsuit.
 
I think that’s a completely unsafe assumption given the limited fact base.

It is not a sackable offence to be “pro-life” in any jurisdiction. But to declare abortion “murder” (in the relevant context) - contrary to the law of the land - is asking for trouble, I would think. By all accounts he was not exposing Church teaching (for students to consider), but personal views presented in strident fashion.

Nothing can be concluded from the absence of personal criticism of the lecturer. Such would typically provide additional grounds for the predictable wrongful dismissal lawsuit.
If the law of the land determines one’s moral stance in public then calling abortion ‘wrong’ or ‘evil’ is just as bad as calling it ‘murder’. If the law allows it one cannot oppose it, in this logic. Any kind of pro life stance then becomes objectionable - with practical consequences.

Very much the mentality in countries that have a positivist approach to morality - whatever is legal is right, or at least excusable. But a wrong law remains a wrong law, never mind how venerable the buildings in which it is enacted or how august the legislators who enact it.
 
If the law of the land determines one’s moral stance in public then calling abortion ‘wrong’ or ‘evil’ is just as bad as calling it ‘murder’. If the law allows it one cannot oppose it, in this logic. Any kind of pro life stance then becomes objectionable - with practical consequences.

Very much the mentality in countries that have a positivist approach to morality - whatever is legal is right, or at least excusable. But a wrong law remains a wrong law, never mind how venerable the buildings in which it is enacted or how august the legislators who enact it.
The law of the land does not determine one’s moral stance, however, the lecturer is not (cannot) be in trouble for his personal moral beliefs, any more than the Catholic Bishop’s of Belgium can be in trouble for theirs. He can only be in trouble for his behaviour. It was not the lecturer’s role to “volunteer” (rather bluntly it would seem) his personal moral stance with his Philosophy students - presenting his position as fact given he held a position of educational leadership.

While sharing the lecturers espoused opinion, I take the view he should not have expressed them in the manner and context that he did and I can envisage multiple avenues to articulate the position he did on abortion that would not have landed him in hot water. [Though still not clear how this topic arises in a philosophy class.]
 
The law of the land does not determine one’s moral stance, however, the lecturer is not (cannot) be in trouble for his personal moral beliefs, any more than the Catholic Bishop’s of Belgium can be in trouble for theirs. He can only be in trouble for his behaviour. It was not the lecturer’s role to “volunteer” (rather bluntly it would seem) his personal moral stance with his Philosophy students - presenting his position as fact given he held a position of educational leadership.

While sharing the lecturers espoused opinion, I take the view he should not have expressed them in the manner and context that he did and I can envisage multiple avenues to articulate the position he did on abortion that would not have landed him in hot water. [Though still not clear how this topic arises in a philosophy class.]
Keep constantly in mind what the university itself emphasized: it “stressed that abortion was legal in Belgium since 1990 and it respected women’s autonomy to opt for it.” So the university was against the very notion of calling abortion murder, irrespective of the academic context in which it was done.

Philosophy is a very loose term nowadays. I can easily envisage several areas of philosophical enquiry that would bring up the subject of abortion. For example: when does a human being begin to be a human being, i.e. what makes a human human? If a human being is fully human from the moment of conception then abortion clearly is murder. All very much a philosophical question.

And the lecturer was absolutely within his rights to present his “opinion” as fact given it is fact, and in a (nominally at least) Catholic university to boot. If however the university has officially endorsed curricula that affirm abortion is not murder and fire staff who think otherwise, then why hasn’t the Church lifted the adjective ‘Catholic’ from it?

At the limit, if the lecturer had starting talking about abortion in a course of Formal Logic I concede he could have received a warning. But that certainly would not be a reason to fire him, unless he ignored the warning and introduced non-relevant material into subsequent classes. Nothing however in the article suggests this was the case.

With all this in mind I understand the approach that seeks to quarantine pro-life opposition to abortion laws, getting pro-life arguments out of mainstream debates (especially academic mainstream debates - young people are still capable of believing something once it is proved) and making them a kind of fringe group that holds placards in the streets. It’s a simple truth that no society can be neutral - it must endorse a set of moral guidelines that are the foundation of its legal system, and any opposition to those guidelines must be sent into a social ghetto.

Liberals who believe in live-and-let-live can only do so because society is in transition from its Christian past to a dereligionised future where the individual reigns supreme and is the arbiter of right and wrong. (and good luck when that arrives). When the transition is complete I and others like me will be arrested even for posting stuff like this on a forum. Y’know - hate speech and all that.
 
I remember, not so long ago, when Catholics did not use pretzel logic to justify contradictions to the Faith.
 
What does “Catholic school” even mean any more?! All the Catholic students I have known are pro-death and immoral. All the Catholic professors I have known are total frauds, but they always seem to have to strangely advertise the fact that they are “catholic” out of the blue. Reference being “catholic” for no apparent reason then 20 minutes later go off on some indecent tangential topic. They’re all hypocritical city slickers. Its easy to see why conservative catholics are leaving the faith for Evangelical/fundamental/charismaticsim. Granted, these elements are extremely heretical, controlling, and dangerous, but you won’t se that immediately unless you know what to look for. “Average urban joe” won’t reasize this and be drawn in. Or just become an agnostic/atheist.
 
Where I live, Catholic universities are not just for Catholics nor is adherence to the Catholic faith an expectation or requirement for students. It is not a seminary or anything vaguely resembling that.

rred.
Why don’t we just be honest and say that in most places Catholic universities are simply not Catholic anymore.
 
Keep constantly in mind what the university itself emphasized: it “stressed that abortion was legal in Belgium since 1990 and it respected women’s autonomy to opt for it.” So the university was against the very notion of calling abortion murder, irrespective of the academic context in which it was done.
As ugly as it may seem, women do have that autonomy. That fact does not prevent exposing Catholic principles, which only a fool would do in the manner this lecturer appears to have adopted. It is not the usual practice of the Church (charged with moral teaching) to trumpet “abortion is murder and those women who have committed it are murderers”. Perhaps this is because, like this university, the Church is not sufficiently “Catholic”? Or perhaps because the Church recognizes the folly of such an approach?
 
Why don’t we just be honest and say that in most places Catholic universities are simply not Catholic anymore.
I suppose because that statement is a little unclear.

We are unable to staff Catholic schools with persons as fully capable of presenting the catholic faith as we’d like. How much greater a challenge must it be to do the equivalent (analogous) in a university? And actually - what is expected of a chemistry lecturer in a catholic university?

It’s quite unclear to me what tangible, achievable goals catholic universities can actually serve, or seek to serve.
 
As ugly as it may seem, women do have that autonomy. That fact does not prevent exposing Catholic principles, which only a fool would do in the manner this lecturer appears to have adopted. It is not the usual practice of the Church (charged with moral teaching) to trumpet “abortion is murder and those women who have committed it are murderers”. Perhaps this is because, like this university, the Church is not sufficiently “Catholic”? Or perhaps because the Church recognizes the folly of such an approach?
What, exactly, was this “folly”? More than likely, the teacher offended the supposed sensibilities of politically-correct feminists. Arguably, he should have known better, presuming he wished to keep his position at the university.
 
…Arguably, he should have known better…
Yes. Do you think he advanced the pro-life cause by calling the relevant women’s Murfderers? Do you see the Church adopt that approach from the pulpit or in other fora.

Ps. I am neutral on the question of whether dismissal was appropriate, given an insufficient picture of the events.
 
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