Catholic vs Episcoplan?

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ltwin said:
Since your Anglican, I guess you’d know more than I would. But I don’t think its controversial to say that the way things are going, there will be a gay marriage ceremony in the Episcopal Church eventually, BCP or not. The conservatives just have not been effective in halting the decline of a once great church.
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ltwin,

It’s difficult to say how all this will play out. I think what many people outside Anglicanism don’t realize is that this is a difficult and agonizing time for orthodox Anglicans in The Episcopal Church. As difficult as things are, I am saddened by so much splintering and separation. Though, I understand there is a breaking point for all of us. Sadly, the more conservatives who break away from TEC, the more difficult it is for the remaining conservatives to restore orthodoxy.

Ironically, I’ve seen countless threads here, over the last three years, criticizing the number of “denominations.” If conservative Anglicans split from TEC, there are Catholics who point to yet more splintering among non Catholics. If conservatives stay, we are criticized for remaining with a leadership that is so liberal.

Of course, from the Catholic POV, the only truly acceptable option you can see for us is to enter into Communion with Rome. Some Anglicans have chosen this option. It will take some time to see how this works out for these Anglicans in the long run. The entry is not without turbulence, even now.
 
Anna_Scott said:
ltwin,

It’s difficult to say how all this will play out. I think what many people outside Anglicanism don’t realize is that this is a difficult and agonizing time for orthodox Anglicans in The Episcopal Church. As difficult as things are, I am saddened by so much splintering and separation. Though, I understand there is a breaking point for all of us. Sadly, the more conservatives who break away from TEC, the more difficult it is for the remaining conservatives to restore orthodoxy.
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It is a difficult time for Anglicanism generally: for conservatives, because liberals seem to be abandoning them and their image of orthodoxy; for liberals, because conservatives seem to be making submission to them the price of unity; for moderates, because liberals and conservatives seem to spend more time on how they differ than on how they agree.

Still, it is far from the first such storm that Anglicanism has faced in the last half a millennium.
 
Mystophilus said:
It is a difficult time for Anglicanism generally: for conservatives, because liberals seem to be abandoning them and their image of orthodoxy; for liberals, because conservatives seem to be making submission to them the price of unity; for moderates, because liberals and conservatives seem to spend more time on how they differ than on how they agree.

Still, it is far from the first such storm that Anglicanism has faced in the last half a millennium.
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Mystophilus,
That is an interesting assessment. 🙂
 
just so people are clear - one who attends an episcopal church is called an episcopalian.
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7_Sorrows said:
just so people are clear - one who attends an episcopal church is called an episcopalian.
🙂
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And so that is what I am, an Episcopalian. I’m also a Lutheran, since our parish has an affiliation with ELCA as well as TEC. Maybe I’m more Lutheran since I’ve had the Lutheran Confirmation, but not the Episcopal one, which will have to wait for the bishop to be available.

And we describe ourselves as “emerging Anglo-Catholic with Benedictine influence”… and all that works for me. We do welcome gays and ordain women, and I have no problem with that. But otherwise, I am mostly orthodox and conservative in the English style, much like C.S. Lewis and N.T. Wright, two of my favorite Christian writers.

Earlier this year, I came over from Assemblies of God, which I had found to be too conservative for me, socially, politically and theologically. It was an easy enough transition, since I’ve always liked liturgy and felt drawn to Anglicanism.
 
Izdaari said:
And so that is what I am, an Episcopalian. I’m also a Lutheran, since our parish has an affiliation with ELCA as well as TEC. Maybe I’m more Lutheran since I’ve had the Lutheran Confirmation, but not the Episcopal one, which will have to wait for the bishop to be available. . . . .
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Izdaari,

Christians who have been Confirmed in the Lutheran Church are Received rather than Confirmed when coming into the Episcopal Church. I’m surprised you would have to be Confirmed again. Is there are particular reason?
 
Anna_Scott said:
Izdaari,

Christians who have been Confirmed in the Lutheran Church are Received rather than Confirmed when coming into the Episcopal Church. I’m surprised you would have to be Confirmed again. Is there are particular reason?
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You’re probably right. Likely I’ll be Received rather than Confirmed. 👍

As it was explained to me, either way it only matters if I want to be ordained in TEC… which is possible, though that would be at least several years of schooling away.

I am new to all this. As I said, it was just earlier this year that I came over from AoG.
 
Anna_Scott said:
And an Anglican.

All Episcopalians are Anglican; but not all Anglicans are Episcopalian. 🙂
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yes, you are correct, but i was pointing out the spelling of episcopal and episcopalian.
if you look at the title of the thread and some of the posts, episcopalian and episcopal are not spelled correctly. 🙂
 
7_Sorrows said:
yes, you are correct, but i was pointing out the spelling of episcopal and episcopalian.
if you look at the title of the thread and some of the posts, episcopalian and episcopal are not spelled correctly. 🙂
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Right. I am an episcopalian, not an episcoplan (whatever that is). But I didn’t notice the misspelling until you pointed it out.
 
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