Catholic vs Episcoplan?

[Anna_Scott]

yes, you are correct, but i was pointing out the spelling of episcopal and episcopalian.
if you look at the title of the thread and some of the posts, episcopalian and episcopal are not spelled correctly.

I didn’t even notice that.

 

[7_Sorrows]

I did a really nice post on that around 8 years ago.

GKC

i would have liked to read it. i am sure it was insightful.

 

[GKC]

i would have liked to read it. i am sure it was insightful.

Possibly. Possibly confusing.

GKC

 

[Mystophilus]

Mystophilus,
That is an interesting assessment.

Well, “interesting” is an … interesting way to describe it.

Do you mean “interesting” as in “Huh! I never thought of that.”, or “interesting” as in “Why on Earth would anyone think that?”, or something else?

 

[Anna_Scott]

Well, “interesting” is an … interesting way to describe it.

Do you mean “interesting” as in “Huh! I never thought of that.”, or “interesting” as in “Why on Earth would anyone think that?”, or something else?

Mystophilus,
Interesting in that few people actually try to see things from all sides: conservative, liberal, moderate. If we all did this more often, we might fight less and get more accomplished. So, “interesting” is a compliment.

Anna

 

[Anna_Scott]

I did a really nice post on that around 8 years ago.

GKC

You really should keep a “copy and paste” library of all these things you have written in the past. They would come in handy on threads like this one.

 

[Anna_Scott]

You’re probably right. Likely I’ll be Received rather than Confirmed.

As it was explained to me, either way it only matters if I want to be ordained in TEC… which is possible, though that would be at least several years of schooling away.

I am new to all this. As I said, it was just earlier this year that I came over from AoG.

Izdaari,
I’m sure your Rector will sort it out. Just ask him. Usually, there is some paperwork to fill out before the Bishop arrives. The Bishop Confirms and Receives.

 

[GKC]

You really should keep a “copy and paste” library of all these things you have written in the past. They would come in handy on threads like this one.

I do, on selected subjects that I obsess about. Saves a lot of typing on some of the repetitive thread topics And I looked for that one. I found one similar, but not what I was remembering.

GKC

 

[Anna_Scott]

I do, on selected subjects that I obsess about. Saves a lot of typing on some of the repetitive thread topics And I looked for that one. I found one similar, but not what I was remembering.

GKC

Hoping you find it.

 

[Mystophilus]

Mystophilus,
Interesting in that few people actually try to see things from all sides: conservative, liberal, moderate. If we all did this more often, we might fight less and get more accomplished.

Oh, thank you

The discussion of marriage and ordination for gay people has been a useful way of helping people to see the differences of opinion within Anglicanism. As long as we can maintain the sort of positive view which you espouse here, we can actually benefit from the process, and there are calls for that coming from all over the communion.

 

[GKC]

Hoping you find it.

Not necessary; the central point was the same as what you said, but with some history in it.

GKC

 

[CMatt25]

just so people are clear - one who attends an episcopal church is called an episcopalian.

Unless one is for instance a baptized/confirmed Catholic or of another tradition and attends an Episcopal church for worship but has not been received or confirmed into TEC.

 

[CMatt25]

We do welcome gays and ordain women, and I have no problem with that.

Reminds me of a story an Episcopal priest shared with me. She said a man had been away from church for awhile over homosexuality and Bishop Robinson. He asked her what she thought. She said she had no problem. He appeared shocked. She asked if he believed in 1 God and Jesus? When the man replied he did, she said well so do I. So just because we disagree on homosexuality she told him does not mean we can not be part of the same worshiping family. And the man has worshiped in the church she pastors every week since. For which she is grateful.

 

[CMatt25]

Izdaari,

Christians who have been Confirmed in the Lutheran Church are Received rather than Confirmed when coming into the Episcopal Church. I’m surprised you would have to be Confirmed again. Is there are particular reason?

As are Christians who have been confirmed in the Catholic Church. An Episcopal priest explained it to me this way. Roman Catholics who have been confirmed are received into TEC because Episcopalians believe both Roman Catholics and Episcopalians are confirmed in the apostolic succession by bishops. Rome of course will disagree.

 

[Izdaari]

Reminds me of a story an Episcopal priest shared with me. She said a man had been away from church for awhile over homosexuality and Bishop Robinson. He asked her what she thought. She said she had no problem. He appeared shocked. She asked if he believed in 1 God and Jesus? When the man replied he did, she said well so do I. So just because we disagree on homosexuality she told him does not mean we can not be part of the same worshiping family. And the man has worshiped in the church she pastors every week since. For which she is grateful.

That’s a good point. We don’t require that everybody agree on that kind of stuff.

 

[GKC]

That’s a good point. We don’t require that everybody agree on that kind of stuff.

Might I observe that my mantra (which is quite true), is not given in approbation, but in a sad observation of reality.

GKC

 

[Izdaari]

Might I observe that my mantra (which is quite true), is not given in approbation, but in a sad observation of reality.

GKC

I understand. But I picked this motley crew on purpose, and find its motleyness to be one of its attractive features. But maybe I’m just weird.

 

[Mystophilus]

I understand. But I picked this motley crew on purpose, and find its motleyness to be one of its attractive features. But maybe I’m just weird.

I am weird, but I feel the same way: the breadth of Anglicanism was one of the most compelling reasons for joining. When that much diversity can be united (and, yes, the strain of maintaining that unity does cause constant creaking and groaning throughout the community), it looks rather suspiciously like divine intervention.

 

[GKC]

I understand. But I picked this motley crew on purpose, and find its motleyness to be one of its attractive features. But maybe I’m just weird.

If so, you may be in the right place.

GKC

 

[manualman]

I am weird, but I feel the same way: the breadth of Anglicanism was one of the most compelling reasons for joining. When that much diversity can be united (and, yes, the strain of maintaining that unity does cause constant creaking and groaning throughout the community), it looks rather suspiciously like divine intervention.

Interesting thread and I’m a sucker for hearing Anglican stories. Dunno why, just enjoy listening, thanks.

But this thread struck me strangely. Is it really UNITY if the ideas aren’t just diverse, but contradictory? Perhaps sometimes it can be. Sometimes people seem to have contradictory ideas, but really just haven’t investigated enough yet (the blind men describing the elephant comes to mind, and I suspect that eventual reunification between Rome and the EO will come about some way like that). But after some level of investigation, doesn’t one need to at least consider the possibility that two conflicting ideas really ARE inherently contradictory and can’t both be true? That at least one of those principles must be false? Isn’t a value of “tolerance” that simply chooses not to do anything about conflicting values more accurately described as “apathy” than “unity?” It kind of seems that way from the outside looking in. Maybe I just don’t get it yet.