Catholic vs protestant

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Yes!!

Thank you. I’ve bookmarked the page.
 
annad347 said:
Like a doctor… meaning education is what validated them.
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No, their ordination is what sets them apart, their receiving of the sacrament of Holy Orders. No Protestant church has Apostolic succession.

@TomH1 stated the difference very well.
 
MichaelP3 said:
There can still be an argument about validity and all that but many many non-Catholic ministers go through the same level of education at accredited institutions.
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Which ones? The fact remains no Protestant church has Apostolic succession and none can be traced back to the Church Jesus Christ established.
 
TC3033 said:
You’re in a Catholic forum.

Odds are, you’re only going to get one answer.
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And yet I have not once seen you promote a Catholic position. The OP can rest assured that this forum is anything but exclusive.
 
ThomasMT said:
And yet I have not once seen you promote a Catholic position.
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Then you need to look harder.
ThomasMT said:
The OP can rest assured that this forum is anything but exclusive.
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Eh, debatable. I’ve been warned for answering a question specifically asking for a non-Catholic viewpoint.

Anyways, I’ve seen these threads and how they go.

My advice to OP. We can’t tell you. Go where you feel you belong.
 
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There’s an unbroken historical lineage, a lived experience, aka “Tradition” dating back to the Church receiving and preaching the gospel before a word of the New Testament was written. The authority of the Reformers was the bible only, Sola Scriptura, and that was guaranteed to produce all kinds of innovations and novel gospels- and to continue to do so. Even at the beginning there was the true church, consisting of Jesus’ disciples and those that they discipled, and there were false teachers.
 
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What’s your point? Like I said…you need to look harder. It may be outside of this thread. Or, if you know me so well, maybe we just end up in threads we’re going to disagree on. 🤷‍♂️ 🤔
 
The point is to refute your claim that multi sided answers to the OP’s question are unlikely. Additionally, my point is to underscore that purely Catholic answers are unlikely, on CAF.

As far as “looking harder,” you may have a point. I simply found your initial reply a bit ironic, so I couldnt resist my frustration.
 
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Don’t think he is referring to Apostolic succession, but rather the comparison between the pathway of protestant ministers in theological institutes with the pathway of catholic priests in seminaries. He is trying to say that the education that protestant ministers go through is generally similar to that of catholic priests.
 
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Thank for answering and explaining the Pope, but can someone please answer this question?
If a Catholic priest goes through the process of becoming an ordained Catholic priest, becomes validated to do his duties, but changes churches, does he lose his title of being an ordained priest… does he lose his validation credentials?
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I’m Anglican. This sort of discussion occurs not infrequently. I’ll kick start it.

Leaving aside the Anglican position on Anglican holy orders, speaking of RC orders, no. A valid ordination imparts an basically indelible mark, ontologically. If by “title”, you mean the ability to confect sacraments validly, as before he left the Church, no. Without further theoretical action, he is a priest forever.

But while he may confect a valid sacrament, that is not the same as confecting a valid and licit sacrament, in the eyes of the RCC. Which he cannot do without the faculties provided him via the RCC.

There is much more that can ( and has been) said on the subject. Let’s see if a RC voice takes this up.

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annad347 said:
If a Catholic priest goes through the process of becoming an ordained Catholic priest, becomes validated to do his duties, but changes churches, does he lose his title of being an ordained priest… does he lose his validation credentials?
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To the best of my knowledge, the answer is No, he doesn’t. Dominic Stockford, the current chairman of the London-based Protestant Truth Society (link below), is an ordained Catholic priest who changed his mind about religion back in the eighties or nineties. I used to get into conversation with him from time to time on comments threads at the Archbishop Cranmer blog, until he got banned about a year ago. He mentioned several times that, as far as the Catholic Church is concerned, he is still regarded as a priest in good standing, qualified — for example — to hear confessions and give absolution.

http://protestanttruth.com/council-members/
 
Not sure about that.To validly/licitly confect sacraments, he would have to still be under the RCC.
 
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Not sure about that.To validly/licitly confect sacraments, he would have to still be under the RCC.
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I don’t think I ever asked him about that. I remember what he said about hearing confessions.
@annad347, if you’re interested in checking the details, you could contact Dominic at the PTS. He’s a nice guy, I’m sure he’ll be happy to answer your questions.
 
If he is not under the RCC, the RCC would not recognize any sacerdotal functions he performed (excepting the complicated relationship with the Orthodox Churches.

I note on that link that he was “saved” out of the Church of Rome. I more than doubt seriously the Roman Church would be recognizing any sacerdotal functions he might perform.

If he shows up here, I’d ask. As I would what the EFCC might be.
 
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