Catholic vs Roman Catholic

[guanophore]

Which three councils are these?

The ones not considered ecumenical in the East.

The documents do state that the Church is Roman. At that time, they were politically, economically, and linguistically so separated from the East that they may not have believed there even was an Eastern (non Latin) church in existence.

The rites used within the Latin Church are viewed as sub-rites rather than being full rites of their own. Especially the rites of the religious orders.

This is true. The subrites are all based on the Latin Rite.

 

[Pirate_Talker]

If you wished to return at some point to the faith into which you were baptized, you would automatically be considered a Roman Catholic. If you choose to return to the Catholic Church under a different rite, you would been permission from both your bishops to change rites.

You have been asked not to put yourself forth as a Catholic here on CAF because you no longer espouse Catholic faith, and it causes a scandal when non-Catholic answers are offered by a person who calls themselves a Catholic, but is non- or anti Catholic in faith.

And you know this how? It is very presumptuous to single out a poster like this.

 

[oneGODoneCHURCH]

For the OP just so you are sure if with in the USA you can go to the USCCB website and find the Dicesses were you will be. from their web site you can then locate parishes that Are truely Catholic be they Latin Rite or One of the Eastern Rite Chruches.

usccb.org/about/bishops-and-dioceses/diocesan-locator.cfm

 

[jmj1984]

The ones not considered ecumenical in the East.

The documents do state that the Church is Roman. At that time, they were politically, economically, and linguistically so separated from the East that they may not have believed there even was an Eastern (non Latin) church in existence.

Did you check what councils I was referring to? The Council of Florence, Trent and the First Vatican Council. Florence involved the re-union between The Greeks and Rome, Trent was during the renaissance and the First Vatican Council was attended by Melkites, which council do you think was ignorant of the eastern church?

As for not being considered ecumenical, I know only what The Church teaches, namely that they are ecumenical

This is true. The subrites are all based on the Latin Rite.

I’m sorry but this only shows your complete ignorance of all these rites, the Mozarabic, Ambrosian and Sarum rites are very very different from the Roman Rite. I am taking it by Latin Rite you mean Roman Rite, as there is no such as ‘Latin Rite’…

I suspect the Dominican and Carthusian rites also have little to do with the Roman Rite…

 

[jmj1984]

Do you have any evidence to support this assertion?

I’ve already cited the evidence

 

[Inquiringperson]

The SSPX is a Society, not a Rite or Church. They are Latin-Rite priests who do not have full privileges in the Latin Church. A very complicated subject, you can Google it for more info.

I see.

 

[zenith15]

Prescript: I must apologise for the stream of consciousness. I shall not edit it. It was mostly a thought directed at myself. I have just returned from the Extraordinary Form of the Roman Rite and I have a gut plenty with Mystic Monk Coffee sweetened with agave honey. Agave as we know is the noble and many-pointed plant associated with Our Lady of Tepeyac, known as the Guadelupe of the Americas. You see, I have been delighted by some literature clarifying the following subject particularly in regards to the poor souls of the Gehenna of Purgatory, many of whom have not the least inkling as to their spiritual state, thinking themselves damned to hell, so far are they from repaying their debts. We must pray for them. It is November.

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That is one of the most depressing things I have ever heard. I cannot imagine why God would allow souls in Purgatory to believe they were in the fires of Hell and had no hope. What an awful thought to die with–that this might be your fate too.

 

[jmj1984]

That is one of the most depressing things I have ever heard. I cannot imagine why God would allow souls in Purgatory to believe they were in the fires of Hell and had no hope. What an awful thought to die with–that this might be your fate too.

This is simply not true, those in purgatory know they are destined for haven and thus do not despair like those in hellm St Thomas Aquinas is clear on this matter.

 

[bostonboy23]

Whenever I go on a trip that will keep me away from my home parish the first thing I look for is a Roman Catholic church and their mass schedule so I can plan my trip around mass times. I find that there are listings for Roman Catholic and Catholic churches. Sometimes the same church is listed in both classification but more often there are different churches in each classification.

Is there a difference? I always go to the Roman Catholic church but just found this to be odd that there are two different listings.

the word catholic is a latin word meaning universal. Roman Catholic just means the universal roman church. you should be careful however there are some strange churches they call themselves “catholic”. to be save i would go to a roman catholic or if you know that church is part of the diocese of that city.

for example theres a church that calls itself “old traditional” catholic. stay away from these loony bins.