Catholic vs Southern Baptist

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To Super Catholic. My life parallels yours. I was raised Southern Baptist, but now I am Catholic. I too am an ex Marine. I too was station at MCAS Beaufort. The only difference is you married a Baptist and I married a Catholic. If I can change there’s hope for your wife. Prayer really works. Do it. Semper Fi. 👍👍👍
Merry Christmas Ben F, It seems the posts are a bit confusing. I’m not the guy with the Baptist wife. I myself have always been Catholic, but just recently in the last year and a half I found out what it really means to be Catholic and I have been defending and explaining the faith and every way I can. Welcome home my authentic Christian friend.
 
This is somewhat uncharitable, despite being true. I would strongly advise against saying this. I can definitely see how a SB would see this in the Mass. It is not present.

You must show her the truth of your faith by your actions and by the light of Christ shining in your life. Do as St. Francis did and preach the Gospel at all times, and only when necessary use words.

I grew up around these people as well. There is nothing you can say that will sway them. Your actions are your only and best choice to preach the truth. Show her with the fruits of your life. When you continue attending mass the rest of your life will benefit from it, including your marriage. Allow her to see that without being overbearing (which is where I go astray often times). Hard as it may be, you are going to have to keep your mouth shut on this and just allow her to slowly come to terms with the fact that the mass is true, good, and holy. That it is not the satanic ritual she was raised to believe.
Merry Christmas FidesSpesCarita, My post wasn’t intended to be uncharitable, but my fervor usually makes this and other posts seem that way. The bottom line is hmfogusme placed a post calling out for help. I had to come to his rescue to quickly help and support him. That’s why I’m SUPERCATHOLIC!!!
 
Merry Christmas FidesSpesCarita, My post wasn’t intended to be uncharitable, but my fervor usually makes this and other posts seem that way. The bottom line is hmfogusme placed a post calling out for help. I had to come to his rescue to quickly help and support him. That’s why I’m SUPERCATHOLIC!!!
tada its suppercatholic to the rescue 😃
 
“That’s why I’m SUPERCATHOLIC!!!” :D:D:D

Oh yes, the Southern Baptist. :rolleyes: I have had a few encounters with the SB’s right here on my little farm in South Carolina. They drive up in their van with their children and they all get out to convert me because of course I need converting since I have a St Francis statue in my garden. I just let them go on mainly because of the children and then when they have exhausted themselves I ask if we can all pray together before they leave. I make the sign of the cross and say prayers over them and then the last thing I say to the children is thank you for following Christ and keeping him in their hearts.

They leave perplexed. No fuss no muss. :cool:
 
Well, I’m back from Alabama, back in Beaufort. I was going to tell my wife that I was pract Catholicism again after New Years. Well, she found out Christmas day. I have been a battle for about a week now. I have been surrounded by SB (my family). I had to go talk to the SB preacher for my mother. He was making all kinds of stuff up about us. Anyway, I want you all to that I’m closer and deeper in the faith after all of that. The preacher siad that I was an anomaly because of my strong SB back ground. I just think it is good because I know what they do. I was knee deep in it for 18 years.

My wife wants to divorce me now. I want to say to heck with it but thats the Devil taking. Im going to stay the course and let God have his will. If his will is for us not to be together, well I guess it will be.

PS. I think she is comming around a little. I can sence it.

Thank you all for the conversations.

Peace Be With You All…
 
Well, I’m back from Alabama, back in Beaufort. I was going to tell my wife that I was pract Catholicism again after New Years. Well, she found out Christmas day. I have been a battle for about a week now. I have been surrounded by SB (my family). I had to go talk to the SB preacher for my mother. He was making all kinds of stuff up about us. Anyway, I want you all to that I’m closer and deeper in the faith after all of that. The preacher siad that I was an anomaly because of my strong SB back ground. I just think it is good because I know what they do. I was knee deep in it for 18 years.

My wife wants to divorce me now. I want to say to heck with it but thats the Devil taking. Im going to stay the course and let God have his will. If his will is for us not to be together, well I guess it will be.

PS. I think she is comming around a little. I can sence it.

Thank you all for the conversations.

Peace Be With You All…
hmfogusmc:

You are not an anomaly my friend - you are a trend! I live in South AL where there is one Catholic Church in a town of approx. 65,000 people and it’s filled with mostly SB converts. I spent 40 years in and out of the SB Church. I have good relations with knowledgeable SB’s and I can tell you that the surging Calvinist influence in the SB is doing tremendous damage to that denomination in the South. Many - many families are being torn apart by this. Perhaps that’s one reason why our Parish is growing so fast.

Luckily, God graced my wife at the time of my conversion so we both took the swim together. However, virtually all of my extended family (SB’s) believes that I am going to hell and many have said as much.

All I can say is hang there and learn all you can about your faith - you will have plenty of chances to defend it in this part of the country.

God Bless and we will pray for you.🙂

Pax!
 
Well, I’m back from Alabama, back in Beaufort. I was going to tell my wife that I was pract Catholicism again after New Years. Well, she found out Christmas day. I have been a battle for about a week now. I have been surrounded by SB (my family). I had to go talk to the SB preacher for my mother. He was making all kinds of stuff up about us. Anyway, I want you all to that I’m closer and deeper in the faith after all of that. The preacher siad that I was an anomaly because of my strong SB back ground. I just think it is good because I know what they do. I was knee deep in it for 18 years.

My wife wants to divorce me now. I want to say to heck with it but thats the Devil taking. Im going to stay the course and let God have his will. If his will is for us not to be together, well I guess it will be.

PS. I think she is comming around a little. I can sence it.

Thank you all for the conversations.

Peace Be With You All…
Dear hmfogusmc, I’m glad to hear your wife is calming down a bit. I recommended three dvds to someone on another thread. They are WHY BE CATHOLIC by Ray Gaurendi WHAT CATHOLICS REALLY BELIEVE also by Ray Gaurendi with Pastor Kevin Fete and WHERE DID THE BIBLE COME FROM a three disc set from Saint Michael’s Media. The first two discs of the set is a very good documentary on biblical history. The third disc is a powerful lecture from Michael Voris called Why does Bible History Matter?. If you get these dvds I recommended, the first thing you should do is watch them yourself. Then simply tell your wife “I would like you to watch these with me, not with the intention to convert you, but for you to understand a little bit better why I have chosen the Catholic Faith.” The downside may be your wife will flat out refuse to watch, at least at first. Don’t force her, don’t get into an argument. The upside is you’ll have great resources to strenghten your faith. Another thing I recommend is go to YOUTUBE and type in The One True Faith. This should lead you to Saint Michael’s Media headed by Michael Voris. A powerful source of apologetics. And always come back here. Out of all the recommendations I’ve made try Why Be Catholic first with your wife. It’s a gentle one. Save the Michael Voris lecture for last. It’s a sledgehammer on the head. Good luck my friend.
 
Hey there SUPERCATHOLIC, I went on you tube and watched the The One True Faith and it is good. I am glad people like you and the others are conversating with me on this subject. It is always good to talk to people. I dont know if this is natural with the situation that I’m in. My wife and I are basicly seperated. We have been living apart with the exception of the once or twice a month visit, since Feb 2009. Since, we have had the situation come up on Christmas day she has been distant from me sometimes and sometimes I think she thinks we are normal again. I left Alabama on the 2nd and since then I have only talked to her about 30 min. I want to talk to her but to be real with you all, I dont know if it is a good thing to talk to her. I love her and would love for my FAMILY to be in communion with the Catholic church (that will never happen, to strong of a SB stronghold). I am ready for what ever is going to happen. I would like to start over. Now, that I know what to look for in a wife. I know now that relationships arent just sex and lust. it is about sharing your lives together serving God and each other. I have done to much to my wife. When we got married I was inmature and I guess I thought getting married ment you have a ---- buddy for life. Dont get me wrong, I love my wife. We have both agreed that we are not in love with each other anymore. The one thing I have been doing and Im going to do is talk to my son every night and send him cards every week. Just to let him know that I still love him. He didnt ask for any of this and I dont want him to think it is his fault.
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  I just want to be happy and if my wife isnt happy which she hasnt been, I want her to be happy. I just think what it would be like to have a family that goes to Mass with you. I wonder what its like to take communion. I havent taken it in so long I wonder. I'm just ready to do whatever it takes to get back in communion, if that means get a divorce and annulled, or get my wife to get married in the church.
Well, I’m sorry to ramble on on stuff you all already know about. I im stuck here in the BOQ here in Beaufort and it gets lonesome so just bare with me.

Peace be with you all…
 
Well, I’m back from Alabama, back in Beaufort. I was going to tell my wife that I was pract Catholicism again after New Years. Well, she found out Christmas day. I have been a battle for about a week now. I have been surrounded by SB (my family). I had to go talk to the SB preacher for my mother. He was making all kinds of stuff up about us. Anyway, I want you all to that I’m closer and deeper in the faith after all of that. The preacher siad that I was an anomaly because of my strong SB back ground. I just think it is good because I know what they do. I was knee deep in it for 18 years.

My wife wants to divorce me now. I want to say to heck with it but thats the Devil taking. Im going to stay the course and let God have his will. If his will is for us not to be together, well I guess it will be.

PS. I think she is comming around a little. I can sence it.

Thank you all for the conversations.

Peace Be With You All…
hmfogusmc, i am SO sorry to hear about your wife. have you read, rome sweet rome by dr scott hahn? it’s a quick read, but he faced the same situation when he converted. i highly suggest you both read it as it does show a glimpse of that difference between those that reject the CC because of poor data and those that are given the right information, but somehow this “dark fog” overrides all reason. reason is on our side, but in dealing with that darkness we must pray. and i don’t think dr hahn wrote it to show what i said, but that was what i got from it. once you see it, you see it everywhere… like lil gollums’s whispering to frodo about sam… in almost every bit of secular media, from our leaders, entertainers, from non-denominational Churches etc…

i will keep your family in my prayers.

peace and may you grow closer in the new year.

jen
 
I was looking and around and I found this piece of information. It is kind of funny that the Southern Baptist was start in America with all the other nut job Religions.

FUNNY…

Denominations and sects founded in the U.S.

Episcopal Church in the United States - founded as an offshoot of the Church of England; now the United States branch of the Anglican Communion

United Church of Christ - descended from Congregationalist churches of New England; formed in 1957 as a united and uniting church from a union of the Congregational Christian Church and Evangelical and Reformed Church

Churches of Christ/Disciples of Christ - a restoration movement with no governing body. The Restoration Movement solidified as a historical phenomenon in 1832 when restorationists from two major movements championed by Barton W. Stone and Alexander Campbell merged (referred to as the “Stone-Campbell Movement”).

Pentecostalism - movement which emphasizes the role of the Holy Spirit, finds its historic roots in the Azusa Street Revival in Los Angeles, California, from 1904 to 1906, sparked by Charles Parham

Adventism - began as an inter-denominational movement. Its most vocal leader was William Miller, who in the 1830s in New York became convinced of an imminent Second Coming of Jesus. The most prominent modern group to emerge from this is the Seventh Day Adventists.

Universal Life Church - founded by the disaffected Pentecostalist Reverend Kirby J. Hensley in 1959 espousing as a goal the non-interference of the Church between the members and their God.

Nation of Islam - A sect of Islam, created and followed solely by African-Americans. Main difference between Orthodox Islam was the re-definiton of the term “Allah” as someone “who came in the person of W. D. Fard.”

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormon) - founded by Joseph Smith, Jr. in 1830 in New York. Now headquartered in Salt Lake City, Utah.

Jehovah’s Witnesses - originated with the religious movement known as Bible Students, which was founded in Pennsylvania in the late 1870s by Charles Taze Russell.

Scientology - founded by L. Ron Hubbard

Southern Baptist Convention, the largest Baptist group in the world and the largest Protestant denomination in the United States. In 1995, it renounced its 1845 origins in the defense of slavery and racial superiority.

Unitarian Universalism - a theologically liberal religious movement founded in 1961 from the union of the well established Unitarian and Universalist churches.

Christian Science - founded by Mary Baker Eddy

Reconstructionist Judaism-founded by Mordecai Kaplan

Native American Church-founded by Quanah Parker beginning in the 1890s and incorporating in 1918.

Twelve Tribes Communities a controversial sect founded in 1973 by Elbert Eugene Spriggs or “Yoneq” in Chattanooga, Tennessee designed to replicate the early church as described in Book of Acts
 
I was looking and around and I found this piece of information. It is kind of funny that the Southern Baptist was start in America with all the other nut job Religions.
If you follow the history it goes back to John the Baptist. Try Google or Yahoo and search Baptist History. 😃
 
If you follow the history it goes back to John the Baptist. Try Google or Yahoo and search Baptist History. 😃
The Baptist was found in 1609 by Smyth it has nothing to do with John the Baptist, you need to find a new preacher if he is teaching thing like this
 
I was looking and around and I found this piece of information. It is kind of funny that the Southern Baptist was start in America with all the other nut job Religions.
It really started in the 16th century (in the UK by John Smyth). Anyway, aren’t all religions “nut job” religions 🙂
 
The Baptist was found in 1609 by Smyth it has nothing to do with John the Baptist, you need to find a new preacher if he is teaching thing like this
I think the baptists have a theory of succession (sort of like Catholics); of course it’s the old my church is better than your church routine :rolleyes:
 
If you follow the history it goes back to John the Baptist. Try Google or Yahoo and search Baptist History. 😃
You can try Yahoo,Google and gippoo and it will not change that the bapitst was not start by Jon the Baptist
 
To you all that think Im trying to say “Your church is better than mine”. I grew up a Southern Baptist and I think I know a little bit about them. I was taught my whole life that the Baptist are the closest thing to the real faith. I can remember my Mom telling me that when I was a kid.
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 The SB or any other Protestant's have got it backwards but if it is what they believe its what they believe. Yes, alot of denomenations say theres is better than the other. The Catholic Church can back it up.
Peace be with you all…
 
To you all that think Im trying to say “Your church is better than mine”. I grew up a Southern Baptist and I think I know a little bit about them. I was taught my whole life that the Baptist are the closest thing to the real faith. I can remember my Mom telling me that when I was a kid.
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 The SB or any other Protestant's have got it backwards but if it is what they believe its what they believe. Yes, alot of denomenations say theres is better than the other. The Catholic Church can back it up.
Peace be with you all…
Better at what? Putting on a show … I’ll definitely give the CC that much 🙂
 
I think the baptists have a theory of succession (sort of like Catholics); of course it’s the old my church is better than your church routine :rolleyes:
Yep, but the one just down the street with the same name on it isn’t right, but mine is. :rolleyes:
 
Hey there SUPERCATHOLIC, I went on you tube and watched the The One True Faith and it is good. I am glad people like you and the others are conversating with me on this subject. It is always good to talk to people. I dont know if this is natural with the situation that I’m in. My wife and I are basicly seperated. We have been living apart with the exception of the once or twice a month visit, since Feb 2009. Since, we have had the situation come up on Christmas day she has been distant from me sometimes and sometimes I think she thinks we are normal again. I left Alabama on the 2nd and since then I have only talked to her about 30 min. I want to talk to her but to be real with you all, I dont know if it is a good thing to talk to her. I love her and would love for my FAMILY to be in communion with the Catholic church (that will never happen, to strong of a SB stronghold). I am ready for what ever is going to happen. I would like to start over. Now, that I know what to look for in a wife. I know now that relationships arent just sex and lust. it is about sharing your lives together serving God and each other. I have done to much to my wife. When we got married I was inmature and I guess I thought getting married ment you have a ---- buddy for life. Dont get me wrong, I love my wife. We have both agreed that we are not in love with each other anymore. The one thing I have been doing and Im going to do is talk to my son every night and send him cards every week. Just to let him know that I still love him. He didnt ask for any of this and I dont want him to think it is his fault.
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  I just want to be happy and if my wife isnt happy which she hasnt been, I want her to be happy. I just think what it would be like to have a family that goes to Mass with you. I wonder what its like to take communion. I havent taken it in so long I wonder. I'm just ready to do whatever it takes to get back in communion, if that means get a divorce and annulled, or get my wife to get married in the church.
Well, I’m sorry to ramble on on stuff you all already know about. I im stuck here in the BOQ here in Beaufort and it gets lonesome so just bare with me.

Peace be with you all…
I myself have been divorced before my friend. My son, who has lived with his mother since that day, only comes to see me once every two weeks and some in the summer. I wasn’t the best father when his mother I were married, I was only 18 at the time.

I feel soooo horrible for you man, and will pray for you. The road ahead will not be an easy one. The KEY thing to focus on, is the time you can spend with your child, should be quality time. You raise him no differently when he is with, as you would have if you were still with his mother.

My current, and God willing last wife so to speak, and I have son as well. We have been very involved in the Catholic Church since I was 23, and “came back”. She was an athiest when I meet her. We have raised our son together as a Catholic, and of course my oldest son as well. His mother was always a SB, as you put it, but never ever ever went to church. Years and years I have raised my oldest in the Catholic faith, and never been allowed to have him baptized. I have pleaded and begged, only to get the answer “I don’t want my son learning that Catholic s***”

Well…just today, she called me. She has finally, after 13 years of me raising my son in the faith, decided she is going to go back to the SB church. She even told me she is going to have him baptized. I wept…I wept…oh did I weep. All my time, all my trying to show him some faith, just to be denied something yet again as a father to my son.

She normally scares the hell outta me, as most women that are angry tend to, but I called her. I explained how much it had meant to me to bring him up, as much as possible, in the Catholic faith. I explained that if he chose to get baptized in the Baptist church, I would not fight it. I really have no say in matters, no matter what court papers say But I stressed very strongly that my son had always said he desired to be Catholic, baptized Catholic, and that I did not want my son taught the horrible things that SB believe about Catholics. She said we can talk about it, which is much better than the normal response.

You don’t ever give up man. Times will seem so very dark in regards to how much you can and can not do with you child. Stick true to what you believe, and in time, it will win out.

Embrace that desire for the Eucharist, as it will never lead you astray. Embrace your own personal cross that Christ has allowed you to bear, through free will and decisions that were made in your life I am sure. Cling tight to that cross, learn to love it. Learn to love the suffering that may come. Use it, and draw closer to the Christ and the Eucharist.

I will name you by name when I pray for you, as most of my prayers for those here are a general “shout out” to God for the people on these forums.

Sorry for the length, but I know your pain all to well my friend.

Peace and all good things,

Matt
 
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