Catholicism and Military service

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Quit gussying up the pope with all this “Vicar of Christ on Earth” stuff. Unless he’s speaking ex cathedra his opinion is no more binding than the drunken politician or the internet blogger.
 
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TC3033 said:
Which was what many of the privates I served with were, post 9/11.
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Were they like “I just want to shoot a human being” or “I want to shoot particular human beings, namely the people planting IEDs in marketplaces and beheading journalists.” If the former, total psycho. If the latter, pretty understandable.
 
TC3033 said:
When were you with the 101st?
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Never was with the 101st (also not air assault qualified), but my brigade was operating in their AOR and technically we reported through them.
 
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:+1:one of my best friends from HS was with the Screaming Eagles. He was Ranger Q…I’d assume Air Assault too. Times might have overlapped. I wanted Air Assault so much, but timing was so awful. I spent some time in Campell working with them in '05 before finally getting discharged.
 
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That did read bad… I did mean think how out of shape us “reservist” were. Training to standard was a big thing for me. There was a recruiter there, who was all over me, I think had it been peace time…I would have taken the Airborne.
 
ImQuiet said:
Unjust in his opinion.
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It seems like the Pope and the Vatican officials should be knowledgeable enough to be able to apply the Catholic just war teaching to a particular war? No?
VonDerTann said:
Unless he’s speaking ex cathedra his opinion is no more binding than the drunken politician or the internet blogger.
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I am not sure i would go along with that. i would expect the Pope to know more about Catholic theology than a drunken politician. No?
RolandThompsonGunner said:
You seem to have an axe to grind with people serving in the military, and frankly it doesn’t seem like a topic on which you’re particularly well informed.
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I read that it was hundreds of thousands of people who died in the Iraq war and that the papal envoy had said that the war was unjust and illegal. Was that information incorrect? As far as having an axe to grind, i do think it is a great tragedy for hundreds of thousands of people to be killed in an unjust war. It is a great loss and causes lifelong pain and suffering and sometimes even despair to the surviving relatives.
 
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AlNg said:
It seems like the Pope and the Vatican officials should be knowledgeable enough to be able to apply the Catholic just war teaching to a particular war? No?
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If he’s not speaking ex cathedra is doesn’t matter.
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I read that it was hundreds of thousands of people who died in the Iraq war and that the papal envoy had said that the war was unjust and illegal. Was that information incorrect? As far as having an axe to grind, i do think it is a great tragedy for hundreds of thousands of people to be killed in an unjust war. It is a great loss and causes lifelong pain and suffering and sometimes even despair to the surviving relatives.
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Going through your posts, I’m probably more radically anti-war than you’d ever hope to be dude. But there are plenty of very intelligent and reasonable people who can disagree with my stance in good faith, and it’s a disservice to those who served to sweep the Iraq war under unjust war labels when the simple answer is that it’s a complicated situation. Show me the Pope speaking ex cathedra on the nature of the Iraq war and I’ll agree with you, until then people can hold their opinion on it.
Personally, I think it was ill-advised and foolish waste of time, but I tend to apply that to any armed conflict.
 
ImQuiet said:
Show me the Pope speaking ex cathedra on the nature of the Iraq war and I’ll agree with you, until then people can hold their opinion on it.
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The priest tells Al that artificial birth control is wrong.
Then Al replies: Sorry Father but you are not speaking ex cathedra.
Father then says: But Popes have issued statements saying that it is wrong to use artificial birth control.
Al replies: Sorry Father but Pope Paul himself said that this teaching was not ex cathedra. Show me where the Pope speaking ex cathedra on the issue of artificial birth control and I’ll agree with you. Until then Catholics can hold their opinion on it and form their own conscience as to whether it is right or wrong. Yes the Pope does say it is wrong, but the American politicians say it is OK to use it. Since it has not been defined ex cathedra, I am going to go by what the American politicians say and besides many anonymous bloggers on the internet see nothing wrong with artificial birth control and even some German bishops are OK with it. So I will follow the advice of the American politicians and not the Pope.
 
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I was pleased, but not pumped. I was a rep or two short on PU’s or SU’s for 90pts. Missed the APFT patch…again.

This got me watching Air Assult school videos on YouTube. I’m so upset with myself.
 
s124,

Regarding the Air Force Academy itself, the only thing I have not seen mentioned is the fact that 15 or so years ago there were many stories that religiously, evangelicals were the dominant force. Google the words “evangelicals harassment Air Force Academy”. I do not know if that is still true. Therefore, please brush up on your Catholic apologetics - even if you don’t get appointed to the academy, it’s a good skill everyone needs anyway!
 
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