Catholicism is unorthodox?

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Well, that has not been the case for me. My Protestant relatives and friends have not abandoned me. Furthermore, they are very fond of my Catholic wife. So, again, I ask, now that I’m Catholic, I’m supposed to abandon my relationships with my parents, my sister and her children, my aunts, uncles, cousins, and life-long friends who are Protestant? BTW, the Protestant relatives and friends to whom I refer are mainly Southern Baptists.
I would suggest if you are all getting on fine it is probably because you are not been a witness to your faith while you are with them. Try telling them the Catholic Chruch is the one true Church outside of which there is no salvation and see how things go.
 
I’ve been an avid Christian forum participant since 2001— the forums that I have come across have helped me immensely to grow as a Christian, since while my Mother tried her best, my parents did not bring me up in a Christian home.

Since becoming Catholic in 2005, I’m noticing that I’m not allowed at most Christian discussion forums. As soon as people find out I’m Catholic, I feel as if they turn against what I have to say or at least don’t see anything positive in what I have to say. Today, for example, I came across a site saying the following…

And “Roman Catholicism” was listed under as one of THOSE religions.

I’m shocked that so many Christians don’t realize where their faith comes from. One of the reasons why I was drawn to Catholicism was because of the Church’s roots. Since when are Protestant beliefs the “orthodox” beliefs?

I’m having happy to have a home like Catholic Answers, but I do feel sad for not feeling welcomed where I once was.
If Catholicism teaches the truths of Christ and the Apostles, what justification does any Protestant maintain for remaining outside, dividing the unity of the Body of Christ? It is only the inconsistent Protestant who forgets his history that imagines that non-Catholic communities could have been founded and maintained in an environment which accepts the Catholic faith as “orthodox”.

I hope I could never be Protestant again. But among those who are, I recognize those who deny that Catholics are orthodox to be more Catholic in heart and spirit. Those who might possibly even voice disdain for the Holy Father or belittle us for loving our Lord’s Mother as we do, at least remember that there has to be a reason for the Reformation. I am more drawn to have hope for that kind of “separated brother” than for those who seem indifferent to our distinctive beliefs.
 
Ah yes, the argument that Catholics are not Christians. I’ve heard this one before. Most recently it happened when I was discussing theology with a Calvinist. He proceeded to say this to me:

The question is: what does “grace” mean? Is the “grace…through righteousness” talking about Christ infusing righteousness (as Rome says) INTO us, or is it about Christ imputing righteousness to us (as Christians say). In other words, is it saying that at justification, Christ makes our souls holy, or does He simply cover us with the robes of His righteousness, so that in the sight of God’s Law, we are righteous.

These sorts of things happen whenever you discuss religion with people outside the Church. I find that it is best to just forgive them and keep going.
 
I would suggest if you are all getting on fine it is probably because you are not been a witness to your faith while you are with them. Try telling them the Catholic Chruch is the one true Church outside of which there is no salvation and see how things go.
I know my parents and my sister well enough to know that if I were to tell them “the Catholic Church is the one true Church outside of which there is no salvation,” that they would certainly disagree with me, but that they would end relationships with me. I also know them well enough to know that choosing to approach witnessing the Catholic faith to them by starting with “the Catholic Church is the one true Church outside of which there is no salvation” would most likely never bear any fruit in terms of bringing them to the Catholic faith.
 
I’ve been an avid Christian forum participant since 2001— the forums that I have come across have helped me immensely to grow as a Christian, since while my Mother tried her best, my parents did not bring me up in a Christian home.

Since becoming Catholic in 2005, I’m noticing that I’m not allowed at most Christian discussion forums. As soon as people find out I’m Catholic, I feel as if they turn against what I have to say or at least don’t see anything positive in what I have to say. Today, for example, I came across a site saying the following…

And “Roman Catholicism” was listed under as one of THOSE religions.

I’m shocked that so many Christians don’t realize where their faith comes from. One of the reasons why I was drawn to Catholicism was because of the Church’s roots. Since when are Protestant beliefs the “orthodox” beliefs?

I’m having happy to have a home like Catholic Answers, but I do feel sad for not feeling welcomed where I once was.
it seems to be typical of the people who do not like the idea that the Church has been around for 2000 years and that we are founded by God and not some guy who threw a hissy fit one day.
 
I know my parents and my sister well enough to know that if I were to tell them “the Catholic Church is the one true Church outside of which there is no salvation,” that they would certainly disagree with me, but that they would end relationships with me. I also know them well enough to know that choosing to approach witnessing the Catholic faith to them by starting with “the Catholic Church is the one true Church outside of which there is no salvation” would most likely never bear any fruit in terms of bringing them to the Catholic faith.
Does not change the fact that you are only getting on well because you never mention that part of the Catholic Faith to them.
 
Does not change the fact that you are only getting on well because you never mention that part of the Catholic Faith to them.
You call a fact that which you do not and cannot possibly know to be a fact, which I find to be presumptuous and arrogant on your part. You do not know me, you do not know my family, and you know nothing about the relationships I have with them. On the other hand, I have known my parents for my entire life (39 years) and my sister for her entire life (37 years). Certainly, I’m in a better position to guess how they would most likely react were I to tell them that they should convert and become Catholic so that they will not go to hell, since there is no salvation outside the Catholic Church. However, there are two reasons why I don’t say this to them. The main reason is that I do not believe that all non-Catholics are automatically damned to hell. However, I also know that telling them that they should become Catholic because their souls are in danger by not being Catholic would do nothing to bring them closer to the Catholic Church; rather, it would decrease the likelihood that they would consider becoming Catholic. This is the case with virtually any Protestant who is told this; you will gain few if any converts to Catholicism by trying to frighten people with flames of hell.
 
The protestants only came into existence to oppose the Catholic Church, as such it should be no surprise that they hate Catholics and reject you for your Faith, it is one of the few things that they all hold in common.
What a ridiculous statement . No doubt there are Protestants who hate Catholics, as there are surely Catholics who hate Protestants. However, it is by no means true that all Protestants hate Catholics. When I was a Protestant, I never hated Catholics (dated one, my best friend from childhood was Catholic, my best friend later in life used to be Catholic but is now Orthodox). I know many Protestants who certainly do not hate Catholics. To state that all Protestants share a hatred for Catholics is a matter either of ignorance or of slander.
 
I am also a convert and although my parents are both deceased now, I know that they would have had problems with me being Catholic. My children were received before I was and my mother attended the Mass and I knew she was not happy. We just never discussed it. We were very close and it never interferred with our relationship.

I have several friends who aren’t Catholic and we just don’t discuss religion, nor politics as it would just cause a riff. Some of my friends do speak about Christ, but I speak to them on their level of understanding. It is not my place to convert anyone, it is the Holy Spirits.

If becoming Catholic causes a family to disown their own flesh and blood, then I hope that would only strengthen ones belief in the Catholic Church. Of course that would be a horrible thing to go through, but I am sure that it has happened to many.

We must stand by our beliefs, but we don’t need to push them onto others. Just pray for them is all we can do. As far as other websites not allowing Catholics to post is another sign that the Church is Christ’s True Church. These people are afraid. I have never seen any Catholic website closed to other denominations.

Yours in the Hearts of Jesus and Mary

Bernadette
 
I happened across this today, concerning the interaction of Catholics with non-Catholics. Testem Benevolentiae Nostrae, Leo XIII:
But if, among the different ways of preaching the word of God that one sometimes seems to be preferable, which directed to non-Catholics, not in churches, but in some suitable place, in such wise that controversy is not sought, but friendly conference, such a method is certainly without fault. But let those who undertake such ministry be set apart by the authority of the bishops and let them be men whose science and virtue has been previously ascertained. For we think that there are many in your country who are separated from Catholic truth more by ignorance than by ill-will, who might perchance more easily be drawn to the one fold of Christ if this truth be set forth to them in a friendly and familiar way.
This is not the way the situation is handled any longer. Everyone deems himself fit to have these sorts of interactions without the proper knowledge (or virtue).
 
Now that EWTN is on YouTube, please do check out EWTN Live – this week’s show has an excellent guest, a former Calvinist who discusses these very issues with Fr. Mitch Pacwa.
 
Does not change the fact that you are only getting on well because you never mention that part of the Catholic Faith to them.
You know, religion discussions of any kind just don’t come up at my family gatherings, ever. What are you going to say? “Please pass the rolls; by the way did you know that the Catholic Church is the only true church? Oh, the butter too, thanks.” I’ve only ever been asked once why I converted – by a member of my family who’s already Catholic. Most of the family-gathering conversations we have are not intellectual, philosophical, or in any way “deep,” on any subject.
 
Well, that has not been the case for me. My Protestant relatives and friends have not abandoned me. Furthermore, they are very fond of my Catholic wife. So, again, I ask, now that I’m Catholic, I’m supposed to abandon my relationships with my parents, my sister and her children, my aunts, uncles, cousins, and life-long friends who are Protestant? BTW, the Protestant relatives and friends to whom I refer are mainly Southern Baptists.
Maybe not abandon but be careful that you are not pulled away from the Catholic church and be in prayer for them, that they, though are our brothers and sisters in Christ and can experience salvation also, will come to know the full truth.

Also, you can be very fond of someone and still not agree with their theology. I am very fond of many of my family but some reject Jesus. I need to pray for them everyday and you need to pray for your family, also and avoid issues and places that can pull you from the faith.
 
I’ve been an avid Christian forum participant since 2001— the forums that I have come across have helped me immensely to grow as a Christian, since while my Mother tried her best, my parents did not bring me up in a Christian home.

Since becoming Catholic in 2005, I’m noticing that I’m not allowed at most Christian discussion forums. As soon as people find out I’m Catholic, I feel as if they turn against what I have to say or at least don’t see anything positive in what I have to say. Today, for example, I came across a site saying the following…

And “Roman Catholicism” was listed under as one of THOSE religions.

I’m shocked that so many Christians don’t realize where their faith comes from. One of the reasons why I was drawn to Catholicism was because of the Church’s roots. Since when are Protestant beliefs the “orthodox” beliefs?

I’m having happy to have a home like Catholic Answers, but I do feel sad for not feeling welcomed where I once was.
I understand what you are saying. I reverted back to Catholicism a couple of years ago and it is funny how my protestant friends reacted. Though, most all remained friendly and only one questioned my decision I got so many deer in the headlight looks from people.

I must say too that while in the protestant churches for 12 years I found that though most would always be nice to Catholics and could sometimes discuss religion with them, but when there weren’t any Catholics around you could hear what their true impression of the Catholic religion was. And most I found did not think that Catholics were christians. I remember one woman whispering how she used to be Catholic, not wanting anyone to hear.

A Catholic friend told me once, one of her best friends were protestant and always seemed to not mind her Catholicism and then one day found out that she all along belonged to a groupd that believed the pope was the anti-christ.

Protestants are protesting and what they are protesting are the truths of the Catholic church. That is how protestantism started. There are some that are great and accept Catholicism as Christian but in protestantland that seems to be highly debated among them; are Catholics really christians?

We really need to be in prayer about this and not be afraid to show that we are Catholic but also spend more time fellowshiping with other Catholics than trying to fellowship with protestants. Not that we never should but we must be careful or it will pull us out of the truth and that is what happened to me 12 years ago. I thought all Christians could and should fellowship together and the next thing I know I was in the protestant church and no longer knew what the truth was until just a couple of years ago.
 
i’m Christian. you’re not Christian, you’re Catholic

how many times do we hear that? sigh…
Just tell them that our faith was founded by Jesus Christ( The Messiah). Their faith was founded by men.
 
I know my parents and my sister well enough to know that if I were to tell them “the Catholic Church is the one true Church outside of which there is no salvation,” that they would certainly disagree with me, but that they would end relationships with me. I also know them well enough to know that choosing to approach witnessing the Catholic faith to them by starting with “the Catholic Church is the one true Church outside of which there is no salvation” would most likely never bear any fruit in terms of bringing them to the Catholic faith.
You can tell them that the bible, which they use except for a few books, was put together by the Catholic Church. So they are using a tradition of the Catholic Church.
 
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