Catholicism verses Islam differences and similarities

[Sailka]

I’ll name several:
Jesus was not crucified.
Mary is part of the Trinity.
Mohammed is a good person.
Islam means peace.
There is no compulsion in religion.
Mohammed was a noble person.
Palestine is perpetual Arab/Muslim land.

You are Again misrepresenting Islam, which is NOT One Faith. It is 82 Sects, with no earthluy leader of all.

                                                                                           These ideas you represent are of Individuals, not all Islam.  You  try to present the biggest negatives  which are exagerretions or untrue.  You present  Not one Conciliation  or Positive.  There is No/Zero/None excuse for Defaming another Faith severlly. Is Very Uncatholic  to.                                                                          
                                                                                           Are you Catholic, Vickie?  You writings take you out of Good Standing

                                                                                           
                                                                                         All wrong again, Vickie!   Never heard  Any of these ideas.

Most Muslims think Jesus, who they respect as much as Muhamed, did not die on the cross. They do think he Ascended bodily into heaven.

                                                                                           Mary is part of the Trinity?   Where did you get that from, Vickie. Muslims don't believe in the Trinity.

                                                                                                                                                                                          Even Catholic Church respects the good points of Muhamed. And Church teaches Judge no one, lest Ye be Judged  in Same eye.   My Own Parisg Website had 3 Totally Honest No-poltics or hype preserntations on Muhamed, Islamic History  and  Current Islam. Our site  being redone as we move into Giant New Very Tradtional  Church we   built.
                                         
                                                                                           Indeed,  the  Origin   of the word Islam Is Peace,  in greek or arabic or something.

“There is no compulsion in religion” is Incorrect, false statement Not by Islan. Every faith has coerced others into joining. The Correct Statement is that Islam Respects all scriptural Faiths, And their founders, like Budha, Jesus as Great Prophets. The Catholic Church Also respects Other Faiths as Basic Islam does, normally and historically (Spain, under Moorish occupation, Etc, etc)

                                                                                                                                                                                          Muhamed is considerec by the Vatican  and   Catholic Church as a great, historic founder of a Great Faith,, both of who went overboard  in using  Force too much  sometimes. The Church respects Martin Luther also
                                          
                                                                                                                                                                                          "Palestine is perpetual Arab/Muslim land"  is 'new one'.    No honest person would deny that "Palertine"  has been Totallly and recognized palestinian lands, with full property  rights, except............................Very much of it has been "Settled"   (Stolen/Occupied)  by outsiders,  using   the Old Testament   falselly for personal benefits. Isreali Courts and Government have So Recognized often, In writing  (Oslo  Accords)  and actions.

 

[Verisimilitude]

All wrong again, Vickie! Never heard Any of these ideas.

Our names begin with the same letter, but Vickie is a lot cuter than I am.

Most Muslims think Jesus, who they respect as much as Muhamed, did not die on the cross. They do think he Ascended bodily into heaven.

Thats a problem right there. why do you respect Mohammed as much as Jesus? Who did Jesus murder, steal from, or marry (a child)?

My faith says He was crucified. Who are you (or who was Mohammed) to say otherwise?

Mary is part of the Trinity? Where did you get that from, Vickie. Muslims don’t believe in the Trinity.

From your Quran.
( سورة المائدة , Al-Maeda, Chapter #5, Verse #116)

Even Catholic Church respects the good points of Muhamed. And Church teaches Judge no one, lest Ye be Judged in Same eye. My Own Parisg Website had 3 Totally Honest No-poltics or hype preserntations on Muhamed, Islamic History and Current Islam. Our site being redone as we move into Giant New Very Tradtional Church we built.

The Church says nothing good about Mohammed and in fact i don’t think mentions Mohammed by name. History also shows Mohammed to be a bad man.

Indeed, the Origin of the word Islam Is Peace, in greek or arabic or something.

…or something. It’s been nearly 1500 years you would think Muslims could have settled on if it means peace, or submission or fight.

“There is no compulsion in religion” is Incorrect, false statement Not by Islan. Every faith has coerced others into joining. The Correct Statement is that Islam Respects all scriptural Faiths, And their founders, like Budha, Jesus as Great Prophets. The Catholic Church Also respects Other Faiths as Basic Islam does, normally and historically (Spain, under Moorish occupation, Etc, etc)

Tell allah that then:
( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #256)
Jesus did not call for people to be coerced. Where do you think He does?

Muhamed is considerec by the Vatican and Catholic Church as a great, historic founder of a Great Faith, both of who went overboard in using Force too much sometimes. The Church respects Martin Luther also

No, Mohammed is not considered a great person by the Church. Why do you say that? Luther is a heretic.

“Palestine is perpetual Arab/Muslim land” is ‘new one’. No honest person would deny that “Palertine” has been Totallly and recognized palestinian lands, with full property rights, except…Very much of it has been “Settled” (Stolen/Occupied) by outsiders, using the Old Testament falselly for personal benefits. Isreali Courts and Government have So Recognized often, In writing (Oslo Accords) and actions.

I think you need to get out more.

 

[Angelos]

                                                      All wrong again, Vickie!   Never heard  Any of these ideas.

Most Muslims think Jesus, who they respect as much as Muhamed, did not die on the cross. They do think he Ascended bodily into heaven.

All wrong, Sailka! Islam denies Jesus’ crucifixion as well as His resurrection. The Koran does NOT say that Jesus ascended into heaven, but that He was assumed to heaven by Allah.

Mary is part of the Trinity? Where did you get that from, Vickie. Muslims don’t believe in the Trinity.

We do not fabricate stories! The Koran accuses ALL Christians of worshipping three GODS, namely; Allah, Mary, and Jesus! It seems that you have got your Islamic knowledge from hearsay or misleading Muslims. In Surah 5 Allah supposedly interrogates Jesus and makes Him deny that the “Christian” Trinity consisting of Allah, Mary, and Jesus (!) is a condemned blasphemy.

                                                                                           Indeed,  the  Origin   of the word Islam Is Peace,  in greek or arabic or something.

So what??? Lucifer means the bright morning star!

 

[Sister_Amy]

I’d like to briefly explain the purpose of the jizya tax.

In any country, it is the responsibility of the government to protect the people inside it. It does so by establishing an army–this takes money. It’s a responsibility of Muslims to actually pay a particular tax on their wealth, which is used to take care of the poor. But instead of forcing this tax on non-Muslims who don’t believe in Islam, they are only supposed to pay another tax which is to help fund the military, and which serves for their protection.

So instead of thinking of it as a religious tax, I think it’s better to just think of it as a state tax. It is absolutely not supposed to be a means of oppression, as the Qur’an says quite repeatedly that oppression is forbidden for the Muslims.

 

[inJESUS]

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So instead of thinking of it as a religious tax, I think it’s better to just think of it as a state tax. It is absolutely not supposed to be a means of oppression, as the Qur’an says quite repeatedly that oppression is forbidden for the Muslims.

it is paying with humiliation…it is punitive…we cannot see it as tax and you will see it as it is, humiliation…

 

[Booklover]

I’d like to briefly explain the purpose of the jizya tax.

In any country, it is the responsibility of the government to protect the people inside it. It does so by establishing an army–this takes money. It’s a responsibility of Muslims to actually pay a particular tax on their wealth, which is used to take care of the poor. But instead of forcing this tax on non-Muslims who don’t believe in Islam, they are only supposed to pay another tax which is to help fund the military, and which serves for their protection.

So instead of thinking of it as a religious tax, I think it’s better to just think of it as a state tax. It is absolutely not supposed to be a means of oppression, as the Qur’an says quite repeatedly that oppression is forbidden for the Muslims.

Muslims have been oppressing the unbelievers ever since Muhammad got strong and started waging his murderous jihads against those who didn’t accept him and his alter ego, Allah.

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YUSUFALI: Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, **until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. **
PICKTHAL: Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, and forbid not that which Allah hath forbidden by His messenger, and follow not the Religion of Truth, **until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low. **
SHAKIR: Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Messenger have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, **until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection. **

Is this not oppression??

Vickie

 

[R_not]

You are Again misrepresenting Islam, which is NOT One Faith. It is 82 Sects, with no earthluy leader of all.

                                                                                           These ideas you represent are of Individuals, not all Islam.  You  try to present the biggest negatives  which are exagerretions or untrue.  You present  Not one Conciliation  or Positive.  There is No/Zero/None excuse for Defaming another Faith severlly. Is Very Uncatholic  to.                                                                          
                                                                                           Are you Catholic, Vickie?  You writings take you out of Good Standing

                                                                                           
                                                                                         All wrong again, Vickie!   Never heard  Any of these ideas.

Most Muslims think Jesus, who they respect as much as Muhamed, did not die on the cross. They do think he Ascended bodily into heaven.

                                                                                           Mary is part of the Trinity?   Where did you get that from, Vickie. Muslims don't believe in the Trinity.

                                                                                                                                                                                          Even Catholic Church respects the good points of Muhamed. And Church teaches Judge no one, lest Ye be Judged  in Same eye.   My Own Parisg Website had 3 Totally Honest No-poltics or hype preserntations on Muhamed, Islamic History  and  Current Islam. Our site  being redone as we move into Giant New Very Tradtional  Church we   built.
                                         
                                                                                           Indeed,  the  Origin   of the word Islam Is Peace,  in greek or arabic or something.

“There is no compulsion in religion” is Incorrect, false statement Not by Islan. Every faith has coerced others into joining. The Correct Statement is that Islam Respects all scriptural Faiths, And their founders, like Budha, Jesus as Great Prophets. The Catholic Church Also respects Other Faiths as Basic Islam does, normally and historically (Spain, under Moorish occupation, Etc, etc)

                                                                                                                                                                                          Muhamed is considerec by the Vatican  and   Catholic Church as a great, historic founder of a Great Faith,, both of who went overboard  in using  Force too much  sometimes. The Church respects Martin Luther also
                                          
                                                                                                                                                                                          "Palestine is perpetual Arab/Muslim land"  is 'new one'.    No honest person would deny that "Palertine"  has been Totallly and recognized palestinian lands, with full property  rights, except............................Very much of it has been "Settled"   (Stolen/Occupied)  by outsiders,  using   the Old Testament   falselly for personal benefits. Isreali Courts and Government have So Recognized often, In writing  (Oslo  Accords)  and actions.

So what if islam is made up of 82 sects? They follow the koran, they follow their prophet that has been proven by his own words and deeds that he was not a good guy. Unless you consider enslavement, kidnapping, issuing fatwas against women breastfeeding children to die that his men carried out, stealing, lying, torturing and killing so many as a good guy?!

You think that we are unable to talk about islam without being a Catholic. It is the koran and hadiths that have all of this information in it - we are not making this stuff up.

And nice try on that islam=peace stuff. islam means submission.

You are telling us that we are to just ‘submit’ and not talk about mohammed, islamic history, the koran, etc unless it fits into what your idea of it is? Then we would be liars. We are told not to lie.

Yes, there are muslims who are peaceful - but they - once again, I will state this - do nothing to stop the violent ones. They don’t change their laws to deal with them if they torture and/or kill infidels, and they do nothing to stop the subjugation of peoples which means demeaning them and basically treat them similar to how the mafia treats people who are blackmailed/extorted.

The problem, I will state again, with talking about anything in islam - you can dig for a peaceful passage and we can show you 200 passages, or more, that refute it. And yes, there are abrogated surahs - surahs that were more peaceful that were replaced by the more violent surahs.

Too often we are unable to discuss because we are just supposed to agree with you about islam when islam is actually the complete opposite of what you say - for women, for infidels, and even for muslims.

We see in countries where muslims migrate to in a supposedly peaceful way, but when their numbers build up - we see the complete opposite start happening. Why? Because the koran itself tells its adherents to take actions against the infidels - and when such behaviors could be stopped by their own fellow muslims - they are not stopped but instead the rest of the muslims cry that they are the victims - when it is not true.

Why is that? And why can’t we talk about islam in an honest way? Why do we have to meet some parameters set up by you or else you, and your fellow muslims, go spastic? When what we are talking about is the absolute truth that is backed up with proof?

I too often read fairy tales about how dhimmi are treated, or the denial of slavery is still going on in islam, or that women are not ‘honor killed’ and helped along by the sharia laws and lack of will power by muslims to deal with atrocities against women due to sharia law, or when muslims come to our country they start going against our laws and practice polygamy, etc.

 

[Booklover]

• Vickie, name me One Islamic “Lie/Deceit”. You’ve been brainwashed, and don’t respexct honest facts being presented by by Muslims And Agnostoc Catholic about Islam.

On the contrary, It’s Muslims who are brainwashed into believing that Muhammad was a good man and that Islam is a religion of peace.

Vickie, Who has killed Tens of Thousands of Muslims in Their Lands, in last few years? And trying to make Big Business profits and ‘swinging deals’, Like the Giant Olil Contracts 2 days ago For USA Oil Giants? Do you think we are acting Christian in there things?

• It is not Islam that causes the tiny fraction of 1% of terrorists, but Our Above named Policies. And Torture of ‘suspects’ has been a War Crime since 1864, Geneva. And does Not work. Think we are creating friends, promoting democracy with these Very selfish, self centered actions of ours? What are we doing in Their Lands? Their Culture?

• Who, Vickie? Heard of a British Oil company and our CIA overthrowing the Honestly elected President of Iran in 1947? All the problems There Resulted From our glossly improper actions there, the opposite of Christianity Or Freedom or Democracy?
• Can’t see where the big Problems are, Vickie? Our Side, Not Islam, which is a Faith.

Muslims have been killing unbelievers for 1400 years all in the name of Islam, Muhammad and Allah and they love to blame everyone else for their own problems.

Islam isn’t just a religion but a dangerous political ideology that wants to force the whole world to accept it as the only religion/government.

Vickie

 

[R_not]

Catholics, and other Christians, have time and again acknowledge that bad things happened in the name of the Church. things that individuals did against peoples of countries. The difference are the base teachings of islam and Christianity. Those atrocities should not have been done because our teachings do not teach our clergy, and lay people, to do such things; while in islam - it is ok to do those atrocities. Hence, we will not see any apology from muslims, as Catholics and Christians have apologized for, and we still see the atrocities carried out.

Instead of an apology for the atrocities we are only experiencing either denial, or just out right ignoring these things, or twisting of words such as - islam=peace, or the definition of ‘innocent’ for muslims is different than our definition of ‘innocent’. So we heard time and again after 9/11 phrases like this, “muslims do not believe in the killing of innocents, nor do muslims believe in suicide”.

Well, this is not entirely true because they only consider muslims innocent - no infidel is innocent - child, woman, or even old person. (hence, the aiming of bombs into Israel at schools, school buses, places where the young have pizza, etc) And they do not believe in suicide, but it is ok to die if they try or succeed in killing infidels.

So, you are right about the atrocities that happened in Ireland and we have learned from history - thank goodness!

 

[morning_star777]

for god’s sake amy,don’t explain islamic law in ur own way.of course jizyah is a religious tax&in islamic country govt take it from non muslims just to protect their(non muslims)life.so non muslims are really 2nd class citizen under shariah law.anyway every ppl have to pay taxes.like we all pay income tax or other taxes.so i think its enough.but jizyah is really a dishonorable tax…uff,the army will be muslim but non muslims will maintain it?

 

[R_not]

Sounds like it to me! Where did you hear this term?

Oh! I see it in a previous post. I think that the person using it was just throwing out a lot of stuff meaning to confuse the issue. At least when I read the post - that is what is looks like to me!

 

[Sailka]

So what if islam is made up of 82 sects? They follow the koran, they follow their prophet that has been proven by his own words and deeds that he was not a good guy. Unless you consider enslavement, kidnapping, issuing fatwas against women breastfeeding children to die that his men carried out, stealing, lying, torturing and killing so many as a good guy?!

You think that we are unable to talk about islam without being a Catholic. It is the koran and hadiths that have all of this information in it - we are not making this stuff up.

And nice try on that islam=peace stuff. islam means submission.

You are telling us that we are to just ‘submit’ and not talk about mohammed, islamic history, the koran, etc unless it fits into what your idea of it is? Then we would be liars. We are told not to lie.

Yes, there are muslims who are peaceful - but they - once again, I will state this - do nothing to stop the violent ones. They don’t change their laws to deal with them if they torture and/or kill infidels, and they do nothing to stop the subjugation of peoples which means demeaning them and basically treat them similar to how the mafia treats people who are blackmailed/extorted.

The problem, I will state again, with talking about anything in islam - you can dig for a peaceful passage and we can show you 200 passages, or more, that refute it. And yes, there are abrogated surahs - surahs that were more peaceful that were replaced by the more violent surahs.

Too often we are unable to discuss because we are just supposed to agree with you about islam when islam is actually the complete opposite of what you say - for women, for infidels, and even for muslims.

We see in countries where muslims migrate to in a supposedly peaceful way, but when their numbers build up - we see the complete opposite start happening. Why? Because the koran itself tells its adherents to take actions against the infidels - and when such behaviors could be stopped by their own fellow muslims - they are not stopped but instead the rest of the muslims cry that they are the victims - when it is not true.

Why is that? And why can’t we talk about islam in an honest way? Why do we have to meet some parameters set up by you or else you, and your fellow muslims, go spastic? When what we are talking about is the absolute truth that is backed up with proof?

I too often read fairy tales about how dhimmi are treated, or the denial of slavery is still going on in islam, or that women are not ‘honor killed’ and helped along by the sharia laws and lack of will power by muslims to deal with atrocities against women due to sharia law, or when muslims come to our country they start going against our laws and practice polygamy, etc.

                                                                                           There are so many anti-islam  slants  in your  writings, only have time to throw out a couple thhings:                                            
                                                                                           Islam does not torture.    No country allows it. Only we have Authorized at THE TOP  torture,  against thousands, and see that   blamed on enlisted men only. 


           
                                                                                           It  is not Islam, but Individuals who  go against Islam  who   do the evils you cite.  It is  Not  Islam, but those who abuse it. 

                                                                                                                                                                                          And am not presenting my  ideas, belifes, but  the facts  documnted in Unbiased sources.   

                                                                                                                                                                                          Have always lived as my all-Catholic education taught:  unbiased, no spin, honest.    Those ARE the operatve   norms  of  our Saviour, as Taught by the Catholic Church. 

                                                                                                                                                                                          Pls see Catechism #844  about becoming "vain in reasoning" to evil another  Faith.                                                                     Individuals do evil, not Faiths.

 

[Verisimilitude]

The person I was debating has that term in their profile. It was what they identified themselves as. It is a contradiction and I pointed that out.

 

[R_not]

                                                                                           There are so many anti-islam  slants  in your  writings, only have time to throw out a couple thhings:                                            
                                                                                           Islam does not torture.    No country allows it. Only we have Authorized at THE TOP  torture,  against thousands, and see that   blamed on enlisted men only. 


           
                                                                                           It  is not Islam, but Individuals who  go against Islam  who   do the evils you cite.  It is  Not  Islam, but those who abuse it. 

                                                                                                                                                                                          And am not presenting my  ideas, belifes, but  the facts  documnted in Unbiased sources.   

                                                                                                                                                                                          Have always lived as my all-Catholic education taught:  unbiased, no spin, honest.    Those ARE the operatve   norms  of  our Saviour, as Taught by the Catholic Church. 

                                                                                                                                                                                          Pls see Catechism #844  about becoming "vain in reasoning" to evil another  Faith.                                                                     Individuals do evil, not Faiths.

Here is the difference between those who do evil in each of the two religions. In our religion it is considered a sin and our Judeo-Christian laws deal with them as perpetrators of crimes, give them a trial by jury and mete out punishment, if necessary.

Sharia law does not account for it if it is done against infidels. In fact, we see that way too often when it is done against infidels - the muslims are glorified and if they died while doing their heinous deeds - they are held up as martyrs.

You see Catechism #844 and start applying it to your logic. All I am doing is just saying what is in your koran and your hadiths. Here is an interesting article about what is in YOUR koran and YOUR hadiths:

frontpagemagazine.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=CBA566EA-A36C-470D-9DD6-88D752FA5A4B

It is pretty disturbing for infidels.

The above surahs certainly sound like it is endorsing torture to me. As for muslim countries not torturing - you are right - the country does not torture - people do (which make up a country). It is the laws of that country and of those people that show us if it is allowed or not. Nothing in sharia law cares if infidels are tortured.

If I am wrong - give me a website and the law(s) that show that sharia law deals with it. Show me a law(s) that show that non-muslims are treated equally and if they are murdered, or any crime against them is committed - that if a muslim did it they will be dealt with. I would prefer the laws from a muslim country. We see in Saudi Arabia that nothing in sharia law stops them from actively carrying on slavery to this very day. We see in countries like Pakistan and areas in Kashmir and India where there are a majority of muslim - that they carry on kidnapping - and nothing stops them because of those same laws. Nothing, and no one, stops this behavior against infidels.

I can cite you whole books from people who escaped muslim atrocities that were being committed in their own countries once the muslims became a majority. One such book is ‘Because They Hate’ by Brigette Gabriel - a Lebonese Christian. Many accounts of torture by muslims in there.

You can go on youtube and see such things done by muslims to not only non-muslims but even to their own - no trial, no jury - just bunches of muslims mangling up a poor soul up so badly that they are unrecognizable after they are finished. No police, no ambulances, nothing. No outrage by the masses of ‘moderates’. Nothing.

 

[Sailka]

                                                                                                                                                                                         The agnostic Catholic is a contradiction common to the age 19 that brilliant, honest young man is.    Remember how religious concerened you were at age 19?  I wasn't, after full Catholic education. Luckily EWTN made me think, and fully discover the Ideal Catholic Church, on which will publish soon.

 

[planten]

So what if islam is made up of 82 sects? They follow the koran, they follow their prophet that has been proven by his own words and deeds that he was not a good guy. Unless you consider enslavement, kidnapping, issuing fatwas against women breastfeeding children to die that his men carried out, stealing, lying, torturing and killing so many as a good guy?!

You think that we are unable to talk about islam without being a Catholic.

To me you do not seem to be a christian or follower of Jesus, leave the Catholics alone please. You are no christian. I remember Jesus teaching people that they should not see a straw in the eye of others before seeing a plank in their own eyes.

And so many other wise words were said by Jesus, the words of love. There is none in you, nothing but abuse and bad words for others. If that is christianity then no one will go near it except the very blind ignorant men. That is what I see from your posts (I have rubbed off most of your misleading and accusative words).
I am not complaining. I am just trying to show you the mirror from the bible.

 

[R_not]

To me you do not seem to be a christian or follower of Jesus, leave the Catholics alone please. You are no christian. I remember Jesus teaching people that they should not see a straw in the eye of others before seeing a plank in their own eyes.

And so many other wise words were said by Jesus, the words of love. There is none in you, nothing but abuse and bad words for others. If that is christianity then no one will go near it except the very blind ignorant men. That is what I see from your posts (I have rubbed off most of your misleading and accusative words).
I am not complaining. I am just trying to show you the mirror from the bible.

and we get the same junk from you - deflecting anything of the violence perpetrated against all non-muslims. I have laid down facts, time and again - and no matter how real those facts are - you say they are misleading and accusative. Sorry, but they do not mislead but show what islam is doing - to this very day - to non-muslims. As accusative - I don’t know how else to tell of the violence that is islam.

YOUR own koran is chock full of violence. YOUR own prophet was chock full of violence.
YOUR own islamic history is chock full of violence.

I will repost this information since you are crossing threads to post the same thing to deflect your own problems within your own ‘religion’.

Why you guys are unable to deal with your own violence that CONTINUES TO THIS VERY DAY, is the most telling.

Here is an article on muslims not able to deal with the truth and the lack of decency:
jihadwatch.org/archives/021615.php

I hear that Geert Wilders is going to film a sequel to his first film. I guess we can prepare for even more violence - over and above the daily ration that we hear about all the time.

jihadwatch.org/archives/021599.php

We read in just the last couple of days that hezbollah is training jihadists in Iraq, we just captured about 30 al qaeda recruiters in Morocco, 9 jihadist captured in Indonesia with a bomb cache - oh, I guess that since Indonesia isn’t fully islamacized yet - that this is just a day’s work for muslim to kill the rest of the Christian, Buddhists and others who are not muslim - but that is not violence to you muslims - that is just a day’s work and an honor.

With the problem muslims have been having with making sure their dhimmi are unarmed - our latest 2nd amendment being upheld by the court system must have really irked you all. This makes it so much easier for jihadists to kill others while ensuring no one strikes them back, right?

jihadwatch.org/archives/021605.php

 

[Sailka]

To me you do not seem to be a christian or follower of Jesus, leave the Catholics alone please. You are no christian. I remember Jesus teaching people that they should not see a straw in the eye of others before seeing a plank in their own eyes.

And so many other wise words were said by Jesus, the words of love. There is none in you, nothing but abuse and bad words for others. If that is christianity then no one will go near it except the very blind ignorant men. That is what I see from your posts (I have rubbed off most of your misleading and accusative words).
I am not complaining. I am just trying to show you the mirror from the bible.

                                                                                                                                                                                          Am widelly recognized about to be Nationally known traditional Catholic. And am heavily involved with several of our Big Parish minitries.                                                                                  
                                                                                           It is your personal and  radically Negative/false presentations about Islam  that concerns me.     Spinning/Defaming another big faith is the Opposite of what our Lord Taught, and   Holy Mother  Church teaches.  

                                                                                  Defaming another person or another Group   has been called the greatest  (non-violent)  evil/Sin.  That documentation is quote of Msgr Clark, on EWTN  about 15 years ago.  And My Pastor   agrees.

 

[planten]

                                                                                                                                                                                          Am widelly recognized about to be Nationally known traditional Catholic. And am heavily involved with several of our Big Parish minitries.                                                                                  
                                                                                           It is your personal and  radically Negative/false presentations about Islam  that concerns me.     Spinning/Defaming another big faith is the Opposite of what our Lord Taught, and   Holy Mother  Church teaches.  

                                                                                  Defaming another person or another Group   has been called the greatest  (non-violent)  evil/Sin.  That documentation is quote of Msgr Clark, on EWTN  about 15 years ago.  And My Pastor   agrees.

If the above post is meant for me (i.e. planten) then I am sorry, I could not understand it. Please explain your mission in easy understandable words. Thanks. I am ready to accept.

 

[Sam_777]

Islam isn’t just a religion but a dangerous political ideology that wants to force the whole world to accept it as the only religion/government.

Vickie

I totally agree, Islam indeed can be considered as a political ideology, if someone read the Quran & hadith deeply, he/she can discover many excellent earthy privilege given to the Muslim leaders, Imams, and clerics, and as I have read through the history books, that have given a good push for Islam to be adapted worldwide, where the control would be in the hands of few people, and no one from the public can say no or question them for anything, a good example of that here in Saudi Arabia if someone has been punished by a death sentence by our Islamic committee, the king can cancel that (even if Quran & hadith say so), he has that right per this Quran verse (Quran 04:59), thus that would give him more honer in front of the people & the tribes.