Hmm. Hadn’t thought of that.JonNC:
Maybe because you guys don’t have men in funny fish-god hats.
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Here you’re dissing our Mother Mary, so I’m so ready to throw hands.
Yes, there is one Mediator. But remember, Christ and God are one. Mary supplicates and intercedes for us, as she did at the wedding at Cana.
John 2:1-11 “On the third day there was a wedding in Cana of Galilee, and the mother of Jesus was there. 2 Jesus and his disciples had also been invited to the wedding. 3 When the wine gave out, the mother of Jesus said to him, “They have no wine.” 4 And Jesus said to her, “Woman, what concern is that to you and to me? My hour has not yet come.” 5 His mother said to the servants, “Do whatever he tells you.” 6 Now standing there were six stone water jars for the Jewish rites of purification, each holding twenty or thirty gallons. 7 Jesus said to them, “Fill the jars with water.” And they filled them up to the brim. 8 He said to them, “Now draw some out, and take it to the chief steward.” So they took it. 9 When the steward tasted the water that had become wine, and did not know where it came from (though the servants who had drawn the water knew), the steward called the bridegroom 10 and said to him, “Everyone serves the good wine first, and then the inferior wine after the guests have become drunk. But you have kept the good wine until now.” 11 Jesus did this, the first of his signs, in Cana of Galilee, and revealed his glory; and his disciples believed in him.”
Jesus was concerned that when he performed this miracle, he would reveal himself as the savior too soon, putting himself into danger. But his mother, Mary, asked him for a simple favor, and out of love for her he performed his first miracle. If Jesus would do this small thing simply because his mother asked, what would he do for you if you supplicated Mary to pray for you? This is the power of Mary, and why we ask her to intercede. She is powerful and Jesus listens to her.
That probably isn’t what she wants.
And that is not unlike any intercessory prayer, either from the saints in heaven or the saints on earth.
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giddyromilly
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Well, I’m not literally going to fight him, I’m just passionate.
Here you are right. I think that her special position as Jesus’s mother, though, lends her some sway that a saint in heaven or on earth may not have.
You sure the thought didn’t cross your mind.Well, I’m not literally going to fight him, I’m just passionate.
Just Kidding.
Well, He did listen to her at Cana.
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Greetings, my friend. I have read your several posts and must say I have fervently agreed with every one of them in my 60+ years. That was when my information was provided by people who were against Catholicism to begin with. About a decade ago I decided to disregard what I had been told and see for myself what Catholics themselves did and taught; to see what their form of worship was about, and get the facts first and decide later what my view of this big, bad, bible-defying and pagan-like institution was going to be.
I attended a monastery, went to a Mass, read dozens upon dozens of books, not about the faith, but by the founders and the practitioners of the faith. I studied deeply the prayer traditions, the origins of the rituals, the meaning behind the statuary, not to mention this “Mary thing”. Much to my surprise, I must admit, I discovered that the Roman Catholic Church is a profoundly Christ-centered organization, a strongly committed gathering of folks who love God, one another, and their communities. It is a church that was founded upon caring for the sick, the elderly, the orphaned, the relief of human suffering in all it’s forms, and who fearlessly preach the Source for seeking to do that. I remain a Protestant but feel much more at home in a Catholic chapel than I ever did in any of the evangelical churches I attended.
Your defense of the scriptures is most admirable. But I can honestly tell you that this group of people, and the Catholic Church in general, is not one you need have any arguments with. Your energies and knowledge would be put to much more productive use if you were to aim them where the greatest good can be done, such as toward immorality within modern media, the sagging values of our governing bodies, or the watering down of basic education. Blessings to you, always. -CW
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Why bother? There’s only like 7 Lutherans in the country, right?
I’m TOTALLY KIDDING. There’s way more Lutherans than that. I love every one of my 15 Lutheran brothers and sisters.
There are 634 of us that are really offended.JonNC:
Why bother? There’s only like 7 Lutherans in the country, right?
I’m TOTALLY KIDDING. There’s way more Lutherans than that. I love every one of my 15 Lutheran brothers and sisters.
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Yeah, I thought about adding that clarity beyond just saying “most Protestants” but decided it might distract too much if the OP responded. In my experience as a former Reformed Christian, Protestants like OP are more likely to turn on Lutherans, Presbyterians, or Anglicans than question themselves, and I didn’t want to go down that trail.
So thanks for adding the clarity back in.
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