Catholics and Immigration

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Who are you looking for on the horizon? X is our man! If we don’t support him then we deserve our fate. We need a grass-roots groundswell of support for X. I have already sent him $100 and have ordered some of his bumper stickers to pass out. I have one pasted to my front house window until I can get a yard sign.

According to an article in the latest edition of The *Wanderer *by Christopher Manion, after the June 5th debate, X received an overwhelming majority of the votes on Internet Polls, both on CNN’s web site and those of the other networks. CNN responded by erasing all the rave reviews within an hour. Fox News pulled the same kind of antics after the South Carolina debate when X was the winner of the polls.

I quit giving to the GOP years ago when I realized that they were really in league with the Democrats. This illegal immigration amnesty bill that they tried to ram through proves it. Imagine A, B, C and D, E, F, and G all working together to sell us out! And they aren’t going to quit either. They are already regrouping and planning their next round. God help us!:eek:
 
Minnesota Mary, for what it;s worth, it would be wiser to move more into the Interior of America. The West Coast even up to Oregon and Washington State are in tenuous seismographic positions. If you go like the Dakotas be sure to have a well-stocked; well layed out tornado cellar. Montana, Idaho are also places you would be comfortable.

We are in times of Tribulation, make no mistake about it. America is only a shell of what it was 50 years ago; flick your finger and a hollowing is visible.

The Immigration bill is that bullet through our heads before we fall into the mass grave for Middle America. No matter what, some of us will endure and survive. Those that do will be because it is in God’s plan.

Funny as it may sound the Ruby Ridge assault on Randy Weaver and his family was the tip of the iceberg. The Government is out to eradicate Middle America. The agents killed his 12 year old boy…shot him in the back; sniper shot and killed his wife and infant.

They had ATF, FBI and sundry Swat Teams to go after a man that just wanted to be left alone.

We are a debtor nation, thanks to this War and the Welfare system and future payouts to illegals will finish us and our currency. This could be the advent of the Mark of the Beast.

Coded ID’s will be the law because we will not know who’s who.

If some were able homeschooling is the best bet for our children, at least until the Government outlaws it.

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Pray for America
 
johnstown_johnn said:
Minnesota Mary, for what it;s worth, it would be wiser to move more into the Interior of America. The West Coast even up to Oregon and Washington State are in tenuous seismographic positions. If you go like the Dakotas be sure to have a well-stocked; well layed out tornado cellar. Montana, Idaho are also places you would be comfortable.

We are in times of Tribulation, make no mistake about it. America is only a shell of what it was 50 years ago; flick your finger and a hollowing is visible.

The Immigration bill is that bullet through our heads before we fall into the mass grave for Middle America. No matter what, some of us will endure and survive. Those that do will be because it is in God’s plan.

Funny as it may sound the Ruby Ridge assault on Randy Weaver and his family was the tip of the iceberg. The Government is out to eradicate Middle America. The agents killed his 12 year old boy…shot him in the back; sniper shot and killed his wife and infant.

They had ATF, FBI and sundry Swat Teams to go after a man that just wanted to be left alone.

We are a debtor nation, thanks to this War and the Welfare system and future payouts to illegals will finish us and our currency. This could be the advent of the Mark of the Beast.

Coded ID’s will be the law because we will not know who’s who.

If some were able homeschooling is the best bet for our children, at least until the Government outlaws it.

__

Pray for America
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In Matthew 24:16 Jesus warned the early Christians, “Then those who are in Judea must run away to the hills.” He was talking about the time of Titus and the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 A.D. But it is still good advice for us today. I’m looking to find a place in the Black Hills. May God save us. :gopray2:
 
It took this Amnesty bill to expose who these people really are. Lindsey Graham called those that oppose this bill as bigots. He is another elitist.

I thought he was an OK guy until this. McCain, he was always a too tightly wound. Kennedy, well we know all about him, don’t we? If he doesn’t alter his abortion support he is in danger of losing his immortal soul. I do not wish that on ANYONE.

Looking back, Ross Perot, remember him? he got about 18% of the national vote–just about all of it was from Middle America.

We cannot win but at least we’ll draw together like an extended family. Maybe that will be the ONE good thing out of all this.🙂
 
Okay…now I’m mad. Nowhere in my hope is a “One World Government” suggested! The fact you choose to call it that tells me that my hope is not appreciated here.

I was stupid for even believing any of you would enjoy the idea.

It is not socialism to want a multi-country world that has no borders, no citizenships! Socialism has nothing to do with these ideals.

I’m completely confused as to WHY anybody would make that kind of thinking from my lovely post. Furthermore, it looks like my lovely ideas are being used to further fuel the arguments on this thread. Anybody that takes a peaceful speech and turns it into a weapon is harbouring some kind of ugly hatred. Ugly hatred tends to turn the most beautiful things into despised evil.

I’ll share my hope elsewhere. I’m unsubscribing from this thread and I’m dropping out of this thread. There’s something incredibly wanting here when someone can’t come in with a lovely idea and don’t receive proper Catholic behaviour and kind feedback. I feel I got into some kind of cross-fire here.

I’m praying for you all. My cute “rabbit sign” is apparently not helpful. Perhaps sensitive, peace-loving people are not wanted here. This forum used to be so nice. I feel its become “Debate Answers Forums”.

In Jesus and Mary,

“seremina”
Minnesota_Mary said:
Honey, be careful of what you pray for because you are likely to get what you want which is ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT where everyone is reduced to the same lowest common denominator.

Socialism doesn’t work. Why should one man work for something that another man gets for free? The seven deadly sins abound, and Envy, Sloth, and Greed are behind the desire for socialism. You think Utopia is possible in this world? Think again.
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Minnesota_Mary said:
In Matthew 24:16 Jesus warned the early Christians, “Then those who are in Judea must run away to the hills.” He was talking about the time of Titus and the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 A.D. But it is still good advice for us today. I’m looking to find a place in the Black Hills. May God save us. :gopray2:
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I will say a prayer that you will be guided to that particular place. You must also do research and even visit before but DO NOT be too long in the preliminaries. Keep the Faith, I know you will because it is the vessel for our Salvation. Love the Eucharist because it is the Savior Himself and He comes to abide in us WITH the Father and the Holy Spirit when we receive. It is so awesome no words can suffice.

God wants us to survive. In the Apocalypse John tells us there will be survivors (the ones that washed their robes in the Blood of the Lamb).
 
seremina said:
Okay…now I’m mad. Nowhere in my hope is a “One World Government” suggested! The fact you choose to call it that tells me that my hope is not appreciated here.

I was stupid for even believing any of you would enjoy the idea.

It is not socialism to want a multi-country world that has no borders, no citizenships! Socialism has nothing to do with these ideals.

I’m completely confused as to WHY anybody would make that kind of thinking from my lovely post. Furthermore, it looks like my lovely ideas are being used to further fuel the arguments on this thread. Anybody that takes a peaceful speech and turns it into a weapon is harbouring some kind of ugly hatred. Ugly hatred tends to turn the most beautiful things into despised evil.

I’ll share my hope elsewhere. I’m unsubscribing from this thread and I’m dropping out of this thread. There’s something incredibly wanting here when someone can’t come in with a lovely idea and don’t receive proper Catholic behaviour and kind feedback. I feel I got into some kind of cross-fire here.

I’m praying for you all. My cute “rabbit sign” is apparently not helpful. Perhaps sensitive, peace-loving people are not wanted here. This forum used to be so nice. I feel its become “Debate Answers Forums”.

In Jesus and Mary,

“seremina”
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I’m sorry Seremina, but your vision of a utopian world with no borders, no citizenship sounds like something right out of John Lennon’s song–“Imagine.” Peace loving and sensitive people are wanted everywhere, but we must be discerning and realize that there are a lot of devious, duplicitous people in the world who will take advantage of us. Not all of the world’s people want what is best for us. The U.S. is scorned and reviled the world over. We need to remember that and act prudently. Your rabbit is cute. Keep on praying because prayer is the only thing that may save this country. :signofcross:
 
johnstown_johnn said:
I will say a prayer that you will be guided to that particular place. You must also do research and even visit before but DO NOT be too long in the preliminaries. Keep the Faith, I know you will because it is the vessel for our Salvation. Love the Eucharist because it is the Savior Himself and He comes to abide in us WITH the Father and the Holy Spirit when we receive. It is so awesome no words can suffice.

God wants us to survive. In the Apocalypse John tells us there will be survivors (the ones that washed their robes in the Blood of the Lamb).
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I did visit the Black Hills and fell in love with it. It is America’s best kept secret. It will be expensive to relocate there, and I will be far away from friends and family if I move there.
 
johnstown_johnn said:
It took this Amnesty bill to expose who these people really are. Lindsey Graham called those that oppose this bill as bigots. He is another elitist.

I thought he was an OK guy until this. McCain, he was always a too tightly wound. Kennedy, well we know all about him, don’t we? If he doesn’t alter his abortion support he is in danger of losing his immortal soul. I do not wish that on ANYONE.

Looking back, Ross Perot, remember him? he got about 18% of the national vote–just about all of it was from Middle America.

We cannot win but at least we’ll draw together like an extended family. Maybe that will be the ONE good thing out of all this.🙂
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I remember Ross Perot and thanks to him we got Bill Clinton.
 
=QUOTE=Minnesota Mary;2329603]Who are you looking for on the horizon? x is our man!

He may be and he may do a good job, but let’s be realistic here. He has not a chance in heck to be elected. It is good to vote our conscience, but we always have to keep in mind the unintended consequences of our votes. I am not putting you down for your opinion at all. I am only relating what I see and have seen over many years of voting.

If we don’t support him then we deserve our fate. We need a grass-roots groundswell of support for X. I have already sent him $100 and have ordered some of his bumper stickers to pass out. I have one pasted to my front house window until I can get a yard sign.

Again, I admire your fervour. But we’ll have to find hundreds of thousands of people to send him $100 nto make his campaign viable./

According to an article in the latest edition of The *Wanderer *by Christopher Manion, after the June 5th debate, X received an overwhelming majority of the votes on Internet Polls, both on CNN’s web site and those of the other networks. CNN responded by erasing all the rave reviews within an hour. Fox News pulled the same kind of antics after the South Carolina debate where X was the winner of the polls.
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I quit giving to the GOP years ago when I realized that they were really in league with the Democrats.

]I sure can’t buy that assessment. Sorry.

This illegal immigration amnesty bill that they tried to ram through proves it. Imagine A, B, C, D, E, F, and G all working together to sell us out! And they aren’t going to quit either. They are already regrouping and planning their next round. God help us!:eek:

COLOR=“red”]Here is place where your idea of grass roots really had some effect. Consultants that we know in DC said that the phones were ringing off the wall and faxes were coming in hot and heavy. I think the politicians (some of them) were absolutely astonished learning out those of us out in the hinderlands felt about this issue. There are many Republicans and Democrats that have to run again in "08 and I think they are stepping lightly on the issue. I’m not sure that E wouldn’t just as well drop the whole thing and blame it on the Republicans. If L wan’t finish before this (and I strongly believe that he was) it is sure off the radar screen now.
I understand how you feel, but I think we have to regroup ourselves and see where to put our energy into someone who can win and who shares our ideals.
 
mary_bobo said:
I remember Ross Perot and thanks to him we got Bill Clinton.
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Right. We could have had four more years of “The New World Order” guy, Bush, Sr. Either way we lose. The Bushes are elitists. They know absolutely zero about going to work everyday and budgeting a household (this is what Middle Americans do). Bush, the younger, knew even less…he was born into privilege and he is the prime mover for foisting illegal immigrants almost in our living rooms.

Clinton was a man of many secrets. He was born illegitimately and he was named William Blythe. When his mother finally married he changed his name to Clinton his new stepfather’s surname. Clinton was big on forced integration in all facets of life.

“Forced” anything is against God’s gift of free will. 🙂
 
What are you ppl talking about? Minnosota and john, you sound like protestants babbling about a government conspiercy to kill “average americans.” I just does’nt sound catholic…
 
The Bushes make no bones (pardon the pun) about being all for the New World Order. In fact, they proudly annouce it. The senior George Bush opened up the Republican convention in 1988 with his famous “New World Order” speech. However, I don’t believe these new worlders are out to kill anybody. Although some of their policies may end up doing that very thing - possibly unintentionally.

There are a number of reasons illegal immigration is a big deal right now with middle class Americans, but a very important one is this very thing: the New World Order.

Simple, patriotic Americans, really sense that a group of elitists are trying to take away this country’s sovereignty to promote their worldwide economic system. They feel that this system really only benefits the one or two percent wealthiest in the world, and the rest are racing to the bottom of the economic ladder.

The gap between Rich and Poor growing ever wider, and Big Brother looming ever larger over us.

Personally, I’m against a one world government. Because the bigger the government, the bigger the land mass to be governed, the less people will have a personal say in how they are governed.

It’s bad enough right now, just having Washington D.C. telling a huge country like the U.S. (300 million people) how to live, how to practice religion or not, how to defend or not defend your family.

Think about it, the government decides IF and how you may or may not build a house, for instance. IT determines if you may purchase land, What land, where and how you may use it.

We are far from a Free people, and a one world government would make us far less free.
 
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