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Toten
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I would like to get Catholics Persective on why they do not think that Mr. joseph Smith, founder of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, is not a Prophet?
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ForwardProgress
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Because if you believe that the Catholic church is the one that Jesus himself setup and guides, why would you consider a person who’s prophecies and doctrines disagree big time with that one true church?
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Maranatha
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Joesph Smith could be a prophet only if there was a 'Great Apostasy." can you show evidence that three was this alleged apostasy?
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jburgherr
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God’s own revelation, in Jesus Christ, is already complete, full, and perfect.
As Christianity as is a “totally revealed” religion, there is no further revelation needed (or allowed) by prophets…ergo Joseph Smith is/was not a prophet.
As Christianity as is a “totally revealed” religion, there is no further revelation needed (or allowed) by prophets…ergo Joseph Smith is/was not a prophet.
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christianley
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Because I was a Mormon for over 30 years and I found the Mormon scriptures to be completely unreliable. I am now a very happy Catholic.
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FightingFat
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Why would he be? Why would God choose to abandon the billions of people who believe they faithfully follow him through the Church he himself set up and promised would never fail, to re-instate his rule in a new continent with a man no one had heard of? The was not one faithful Catholic left? Not one faithful servant he could explain things to? Reveal the mistakes to?
If he wanted to address apostate Church wouldn’t his efforts be better served (not to mention the devotion of those following his Gospel and his teachings in faith) by appearing to the Pope and telling him where he was going wrong?
Didn’t appearing to Joe make it really tough on Him (by creating a tiny splinter sect) and on us? Isn’t the only possible conclusion to him appearing to Joe alot of unecessary confusion and upset for those of us who have always been faithful?
Think about it! How on earth could Mormonism be true?
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Allweather
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Another indicator is that Joseph Smith initiated polygamy among the Mormons, and when his wife, Emma, objected, he had a “revelation” from “god” to the effect that Emma is to keep her mouth shut under threat of “destruction.”
Polygamy is a variation on adultery. Our Lord taught very clearly about adultery in the Gospel. The model for marriage is, and always has been, one man, one woman. So, Mormon polygamy is a serious departure from Christianity, one that cannot be supported or defended under any circumstances. No true prophet of God would come teaching such a thing.
The only reason the main body of Mormons in Utah stopped practicing polygamy was because the Federal Gov’t in the late 1800s started confiscating Mormon property and arresting polygamists. Congress would never accept as a state, a territory with a theocratic government, or one that had polygamy as an institution. Soon enough, the so-called Mormon prophet had a revelation that vaguely allowed for the cessation of polygamy, Utah passed anti-polygamy laws, and was admitted to the Union. Even so, Mormons continued to practice polygamy, and many still do, underground. There are many breakaway Mormon sects that consider the Salt Lake City branch to be apostate because of its discontinuance of polygamy, and openly practice it today in various places.
Polygamy is a variation on adultery. Our Lord taught very clearly about adultery in the Gospel. The model for marriage is, and always has been, one man, one woman. So, Mormon polygamy is a serious departure from Christianity, one that cannot be supported or defended under any circumstances. No true prophet of God would come teaching such a thing.
The only reason the main body of Mormons in Utah stopped practicing polygamy was because the Federal Gov’t in the late 1800s started confiscating Mormon property and arresting polygamists. Congress would never accept as a state, a territory with a theocratic government, or one that had polygamy as an institution. Soon enough, the so-called Mormon prophet had a revelation that vaguely allowed for the cessation of polygamy, Utah passed anti-polygamy laws, and was admitted to the Union. Even so, Mormons continued to practice polygamy, and many still do, underground. There are many breakaway Mormon sects that consider the Salt Lake City branch to be apostate because of its discontinuance of polygamy, and openly practice it today in various places.
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Pjs2ejs
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Joseph Smith, Mohammed, David Karesh, Jim jones. The list goes on. All said they were prophets. All wrote testaments. Which one is right?
None of them.
None of them.
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VWcrazy
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Joseph Smith - the L Ron Hubbard of the 19th century!
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Batjacboy
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A devout Mormon once told me that Joseph Smith lied to his wife, his friends, and his early congregation about his sexual practices.
True prophets don’t lie.
True prophets don’t lie.
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JonathanKinsman
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christianley
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The Book of Mormon is accepted by a number of LDS split-offs who are pretty orthodox and even believe in the Trinity. The Community of Christ is the largest. It wouldn’t surprise me if the Catholic Church even says the baptism of some of these groups is valid since they don’t follow the King Follet teachings.
Here is their web site:
cofchrist.org/
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mkarzon
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I don’t ever remember Isaah,Jeramiah or Daniel getting into gunfights with people either as Smith did in Illinois.
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JonathanKinsman
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PaulDupre
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The LDS call Joseph Smith, Jr. a martyr, yet he died in a gun battle wherein he fatally wounded two men. Only in Islam and Mormonism is a martyr someone who dies while killing people.
Pathetic.
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KatieD
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I believe the RLDS changed their name in the 1990’s to Community of Christ. They want to appear to be more mainline Protestant and distinguish themselves from the LDS in the eyes of the public, as some of their teachings are very different than the LDS. My husband was raised in this group, and after attending Mass with me for many years, is now learning as much as he can about the Catholic Church and is strongly considering converting.
A question for the LDS and other followers of Joseph Smith: Exactly when did this apostacy occur? I have never gotten a straight answer to this question from anyone who believes that Joseph Smith was a prophet.
A question for the LDS and other followers of Joseph Smith: Exactly when did this apostacy occur? I have never gotten a straight answer to this question from anyone who believes that Joseph Smith was a prophet.
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JonathanKinsman
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Chris-WA
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I personally believe him to be a false prophet. One test the bible mentions to determine whether or not someone is a true prophet is if they predict things that don’t come to pass. Joseph Smith definitely falls into this category. Secondly, I think Joseph’s personal conduct during his tenure as a “prophet” is very suspect, especially with regards to his appetite for women. The whole manner in which polygamy started within the Mormon church stinks of corruption.
I also have a serious problem with the way Joseph’s First Vision story seemed to drastically change over time. The version we have today is far different than what he originally told.
Another reason I regard him as a false prophet is because of the way modern LDS paint such a glossy portrait of the man while ignoring his true history. Most LDS are not willing to find out the truth about the man and rather hold onto romantic ideas of how wonderful he was when the truth is quite the opposite.
Finally, and most importantly, I will never believe that Jesus Christ went to all the trouble to establish His church (for the first and only time in history) only to have the church lose its authority within one generation as the LDS would have us believe. Unlike Mormons, I do not believe the founding of the Christian church was just another “dispensation” in a long line of failed attempts, but rather was Christ’s full revelation of Himself never to fail or be abandoned.
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valient_Lucy
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Because Catholics believe that all public revelation ended with the death of the last Apostle.
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