Catholics and Methodists can learn from one another, pope says

[JimR-OCDS]

VATICAN CITY (CNS) — Catholics and Methodists can still learn from one another how holiness is lived and understood, Pope Francis said.

Religious leaders must also ensure that members of both congregations “meet regularly, come to know one another and encourage one another to seek the Lord and his grace,” he said April 7.

The pope met at the Vatican with members of the World Methodist Council, the Methodist Council of Europe and the Methodist Church in Britain who attended the opening of the new Methodist Ecumenical Office in Rome.

cnstopstories.com/2016/04/07/catholics-and-methodists-can-learn-from-one-another-pope-says/

Jim

 

[ComplineSanFran]

Wonderful to hear this!

 

[ComplineSanFran]

I’m thinking of all those great hymns that the Wesley’s gave us. Perhaps the Pope was thinking of that in the back of his mind.

Hark, the Harold Angels Sing
Lo, He Comes with Clouds Descending
Love Divine, All Love Excelling
Christ, whose Glory Fills the Sky

Thousands of wonderful hymns.

 

[JimR-OCDS]

I’m thinking of all those great hymns that the Wesley’s gave us. Perhaps the Pope was thinking of that in the back of his mind.

Hark, the Harold Angels Sing
Lo, He Comes with Clouds Descending
Love Divine, All Love Excelling
Christ, whose Glory Fills the Sky

Thousands of wonderful hymns.

Jim

 

[Tablefor9]

I really find Methodism and Wesleyan theology much closer to us than say, Calvinism or most Baptists. Concentrate on the similarity and let our Lord take it from there, I say.

 

[Kurisu35712]

Other than having a more traditional liturgy, I’m not sure what Methodists really believe. Although the ones that I know are some of the most genuinely kind people I’m friends with.

 

[Catholic4Christ]

Hark, the Harold Angels Sing

Our Father, Who art in Heaven, Harold be Thy name…

 

[ComplineSanFran]

Our Father, Who art in Heaven, Harold be Thy name…

Ha! Was it me or was it spellcheck? On a day like today, it could well have been either. Thanks for catching it.

 

[ComplineSanFran]

Other than having a more traditional liturgy, I’m not sure what Methodists really believe. Although the ones that I know are some of the most genuinely kind people I’m friends with.

Yes, they are kind and generous. And what do they believe? I would bet it’s safe to say ‘Jesus.’

Methodists are a Mainline Church. They have a Confession of Faith. If you want the bare bones beliefs, that’s always a good place to start.

umc.org/what-we-believe/confession-of-faith

 

[twf]

I’m thinking of all those great hymns that the Wesley’s gave us. Perhaps the Pope was thinking of that in the back of his mind.

Hark, the Harold Angels Sing
Lo, He Comes with Clouds Descending
Love Divine, All Love Excelling
Christ, whose Glory Fills the Sky

Thousands of wonderful hymns.

They’re wonderful hymns, but they’re also English hymns. Certainly we English speaking Catholics use many of them…but I’m not sure if the Holy Father would know them.

 

[LoyalViews]

They’re wonderful hymns, but they’re also English hymns. Certainly we English speaking Catholics use many of them…but I’m not sure if the Holy Father would know them.

He might! A lot of (the) Wesley’s hymns have been translated into French and Spanish, Italian and German and so on.

 

[ChurchSoldier]

Our Father, Who art in Heaven, Harold be Thy name…

 

[ChurchSoldier]

The Methodists and Methodist Conferences in my area tend to be like Episcopalians with grape juice rather than wine.

 

[Pulvis]

If the Catholic Church contains the fullness of truth, and is the repository of that truth, what exactly are we to learn from protestants who seperated themselves from that fullness to go off and do their own thing? If the Holy Father is the Successor to St, Peter, and our Bishops are the successors to the Apostles, charged with guarding and teaching the totality of the Faith, what can the Methodists, or any other Protestant sect teach us about the Faith?
cin.org/users/james/ebooks/master/trent/tcreed09.htm
cin.org/users/james/ebooks/master/baltimore/bcreed09.htm
cin.org/users/james/ebooks/master/aquinas/acreed09.htm
cin.org/users/james/ebooks/master/pius/pcreed09.htm

 

[JimR-OCDS]

If the Catholic Church contains the fullness of truth,

Revealed truth, not the fullness of truth which we mortals do not know while here in this life.

Jim

 

[JosieN]

If the Catholic Church contains the fullness of truth, and is the repository of that truth, what exactly are we to learn from protestants who seperated themselves from that fullness to go off and do their own thing? If the Holy Father is the Successor to St, Peter, and our Bishops are the successors to the Apostles, charged with guarding and teaching the totality of the Faith, what can the Methodists, or any other Protestant sect teach us about the Faith?
cin.org/users/james/ebooks/master/trent/tcreed09.htm
cin.org/users/james/ebooks/master/baltimore/bcreed09.htm
cin.org/users/james/ebooks/master/aquinas/acreed09.htm
cin.org/users/james/ebooks/master/pius/pcreed09.htm

 

[Exiled_Child]

Fantastic article, Jim, thanks; I’ve bookmarked this.

 

[otjm]

The Methodists and Methodist Conferences in my area tend to be like Episcopalians with grape juice rather than wine.

Years ago (around 30), I had the privilege of having day care done by the wife of a minister. As I recall, he was an Episcopal priest, but seemed to be very at home withing the local Methodist congregation, whom he served as pastor.

I never really understood how he seemed to move between the two, but he was certainly a kind, thoughtful and prayerful man. And his wife was like another grandma to my children.

 

[otjm]

If the Catholic Church contains the fullness of truth, and is the repository of that truth, what exactly are we to learn from protestants who seperated themselves from that fullness to go off and do their own thing? If the Holy Father is the Successor to St, Peter, and our Bishops are the successors to the Apostles, charged with guarding and teaching the totality of the Faith, what can the Methodists, or any other Protestant sect teach us about the Faith?
cin.org/users/james/ebooks/master/trent/tcreed09.htm
cin.org/users/james/ebooks/master/baltimore/bcreed09.htm
cin.org/users/james/ebooks/master/aquinas/acreed09.htm
cin.org/users/james/ebooks/master/pius/pcreed09.htm

Actually quite a bit, if one can get past the issues of what separate us, and look at the issues which unite us.

We share a love of Scripture, and of Christ. We share one baptism. And for those who are baptized, we share the Sacrament of Matrimony. With many, we share a commitment to pro life and to working to help the poor.

With a number of Protestants, we share the most popular private devotion - the rosary. And with some, we share high liturgy - while there remains issues concerning priesthood. And with some we share our other Liturgy - the Liturgy of the Hours.

It is only a fool who thinks that someone cannot love God with their whole mind, their whole heart, and their whole soul, and others as themselves.

It also helps, on occasion, to remember that Christ was not a Christian. He was a Jew.

 

[Belshazzar]

I can think of 3 Protestants who were they Catholics, they would be canonized saints.

1). Hymn writer Fanny Crosby.

2). Mystic writer Evelyn Underwood.

3). John Wesley.

I’m sure there are probably more, but that’s all I can think of right now.