Catholics and their political views

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IDK, I don’t even want to vote here in America this November. Everything is so polarized, thought this was good article: https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/...heir-religion-says-catholic-congressman-13406 . Sadly he got voted out, was a pro-life democrat. The parties are just so polarized and I’m disgusted by each one. Current administration has done some good things when it comes to pro-life cause, defunding tax payer abortions, bettering foster care/adoption policies, pro-life justices. But when it comes to healthcare and helping families and immigrants, they turn a blind eye. Not to mention the language from POTUS. Meanwhile the other candidate claims to be Catholic yet was endorsed by Planned Parenthood… Disgusting and scandalous. Feel like best thing to do is to break through of the partisan divisions and just try to change culture. Start by loving neighbor regardless of party, race, sex, religion, views, etc.

Also sad to see this today: After backlash, EWTN radio host Gloria Purvis says she will persevere I feel like too many people replace their religion with a political party. I just see downright hatred for someone who holds views different from theirs. Totally not Christian like, we need to love everyone, including perceived enemies. Now I’m not saying to deviate from Church teaching but there’s a productive way of addressing something and a not so good way. Jesus met people where they were at. I’ve stopped talking to people because of their views and realized I probably shouldn’t have done that. In the end I think it comes down to working on our own interior life with God and setting best example to others. Won’t change world in day but can little by little.
 
As a Catholic I loathe the “better of two evils” voting style, but I’ve done it in the past. However, if I were in a position of only being able to vote between to pro-abortion candidates, I would not vote, on conscience.
 
I’ll say this. I can completely understand why a Catholic simply cannot bring themselves to vote for Trump. I really can.

What I can’t understand is how a Catholic can possibly vote Democrat. It just doesn’t make any sense to me for a Catholic to do that.
 
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What I can’t understand is how a Catholic can possibly vote Democrat. It just doesn’t make any sense to me for a Catholic to do that.
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I know a number of Republican Catholics who voted third-party in the last election. After the last four years, many of them are voting Democratic because they feel they’re throwing away a vote to remove Trump if they don’t.
 
all know that Catholics must be pro-life

Trump:
Didn’t ban abortion . Abortion is allowed in USA under Trump presidency .
Is against free health Care for prégnant women babies children old people
Is pro guns
Is pro War
Is pro homosexual mariage
Is against fidelity and chastity
It’s a shame USA haven’t only one respectable Christian candidat to défend christians
 
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It is a perception based even on posters of this forum which only supports the broader image.
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Who get this perception from the left supporting media. I think many people believe what the media reports is absolute truth without ever really knowing there is a whole other side out there. Because much of MSM and social media is left leaning, controlled by liberals, this is what they hear.

I am not saying everything Trump does is great or he’s the best thing since sliced bread, but he is not the monster the left makes him out to be. He has done good things for this country and if the Democrats had spent at least half the energy fighting him, working with him & the Republicans, think how much could have been accomplished.

Yes, I know, what about… or what about… It is about time to get over the “what abouts” and keeping score. It’s time for our country to come together and be the America we were meant to be. And that is not a socialist country with big government, few rights, and the elite having total control. Given how much many have been taught to hate Trump, this isn’t something he can overcome. However if we can keep the radical liberals out another 4 years we may have someone who can.
 
You are diverting. I am talking about the people who take any critique of Trump personally and pretty much adore him.
 
And exactly how many people are you talking about? A handful?

Being a Trump supporter, I happen to know this is not the attitude of most Trump supporters. But of course, what would a Trump supporter know about anything, right? We only divert when we disagree with anything the left says, right?

The arrogance of the left is spectacular. This very concept that someone can argue they know what we think better than we know.
 
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I saw this when taking a drive with the wife earlier today and got a kick out of it.
 
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What if they say “I disagree that they are pro-choice, but I agree with their other view.” Can they till vote for that candidate?
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If they can stand before Our Lord with a clear conscience that they believe that whatever reason(s) to vote for a pro death individual and their party is greater than the damage done to the culture and the hundreds of thousands of baby murders each year of a prolife person and/or their party then they should be okay.

If I held that belief then I would really want to be able to articulate the reasons to others before I have to try to articulate to Our Lord. I have yet to hear arguments that come close except that republicans are just using the issue to get votes. That may have been reasonable a few years ago but there has been pretty good traction on laws across the states and at least some hope that the supreme court might strike down the rediculous Roe v. Wade decision. That republicans don’t ever do anything is no longer anywhere near reasonable, only one party is even coming close to changing laws in the right direction on this issue.
 
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As if he is the beat all end all who can do nothing wrong and whose word is Gospel.
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I’ve noticed this as well. There seems to be a “protect Trump at all costs” mentality from some supporters. As if a billionaire leader of the free world needs to be defended.

That being said I think Trump supporters have been so vilified by their supposed intellectual superiors on the left that there is a weird personal tie-in that they have when the President is criticized. Couple that with the fact that almost everything the President does is criticized, whether criticism is warranted or not, and you have a constant stream of the back and forth that we see.
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Mr. Trump’s supporters feel they have to protect him at all costs because the other side is trying to destroy him at all costs.
 
I will leave the serious arguments to my fellow posters, but I will also leave this meme here:

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Shakuhachi said:
It is the attitude on this forum and of supporters I know.
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So you get to speak for every conservative on this form? Even after I explained to you, as a member of this form, how I think and feel you still you know better. Even after I told you many of the Trump supports on CAF feel much as I do, you still think you know better.

So please explain to me why you know about what I think than I do? Please lay it out for me? Tell me in your own words why you believe you know more about conservative thought than conservatives do?

And please do not just repeat that you know. I would like a specific answer how you know more.
 
I am referring to comments made here. But I am not going to waste my time digging up quotes. Facebook as well, defend him no malter what.
 
No Jesus did not mention the word “abortion,” was that even a word back then? Did He mention electric chairs, drugs, nuclear bombs, handguns, ropes for hanging, or any other modern methods for killing people??!

I do believe thou shall not kill covers that. But I know those who support abortion will dig deep to excuse their actions.
 
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Enacting laws is what will save innocent babies, politicians that increase funding and support Planned Parenthood and make abortion more accessible is what will kill more babies. No one chooses to have an abortion because of Trump’s so called insensitivity. If women need a role model Its our Blessed Mother, not some Democrat who supports abortion. The Democratic Party is THE abortion party., and it will stay that way as long as the majority of their party supports it.
 
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