Catholics for a Free Choice president retires

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The NY Times published a lovely send off for Frances Kissling, the retiring president of “Catholics” For a Free Choice. (Click the link for a good background on the organization via Crisis Magazine.)

Snippets from the NY Times article:
Frances Kissling has been called the “philosopher of the pro-choice movement” by her friends and an “abortion queen” by her critics.
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Though unknown to most lay Catholics, she has inspired and worked with politicians and activists, many Catholic, to speak out in favor of giving women access to abortions and to artificial contraception.
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“The constant refrain in this office is, ‘Are we really Catholic?’ ” Ms. Kissling said here in a recent interview. “I know with every ounce of my being that you don’t have to agree with the positions of the church on issues of abortion and contraception to be Catholic.”
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“Since the first century the Church has affirmed the moral evil of every procured abortion. This teaching has not changed and remains unchangeable. Direct abortion, that is to say, abortion willed either as an end or a means, is gravely contrary to the moral law” (CCC 2271).**
Ms. Kissling agrees with her detractors that her organization has not affected church doctrine. Instead, it has focused on working with lay Catholics and others to build momentum for its causes.
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"Take heed that no one leads you astray. For many will come in my name, saying ‘I am the Christ,’ and they will lead many astray" (Mt 24:5).
Sitting in her Washington office, Ms. Kissling was unequivocal in her distaste for the church hierarchy. “I think that in many ways, the church has become an unjust institution,” she said. On one wall of her office was a cherub, on another a Che Guevara calendar. In a corner stood a candle that looked like a bishop’s miter, yet to be lit.
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Ms. Kissling continued: “It abuses nuns, anyone who thinks, homosexuals, women who have abortions. It sexually abuses children. It treats people badly, and something has to be done to change its abusive nature.”
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"They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us; but they went out, that it might be plain that they all are not of us. But you have been anointed by the Holy One, and you all know. I write to you, not because you know it, and know that no lie is of the truth. Who is the liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ" (1 Jn 2:18-22)?

I am immediately reminded of the words Fr. Corapi spoke this past weekend in Seattle, about the motto of Call to Action and dissenting groups of their league. He said, “We are Church to the degree that we are in line with the Church. Not when we think we’re more Catholic than the Pope.”

Please pray for dissenting organizations such as these who are misguided and driven by evil under the disguise of a Catholic name. Pray especially for the conversion of people like Frances Kissling.

Lord Jesus Christ,
most merciful Saviour of the world,
we humbly beseech You,
by Your most Sacred Heart,
that all the sheep who stray out of Your fold
may in one days be converted to You,
the Shepherd and Bishop of their souls,
who lives and reigns with God the Father
in the unity of the Holy Spirit,
world without end.

Amen.
 
Thanks for the scriptural counter-posts. Really beautiful. Was with Fr. Corapi this weekend in Seattle also. Wasn’t it wonderful? God bless.
 
This was my first time seeing Fr. Corapi, and it was exactly as I expected: amazing. Great to have such a Catholic event. Mass, Stations, Fr. Corapi, Confession, Rosary. Spiritual powerboost.

I can’t wait to get my hands on the books he plans to write.
 
“The constant refrain in this office is, ‘Are we really Catholic?’ ” Ms. Kissling said here in a recent interview. “I know with every ounce of my being that you don’t have to agree with the positions of the church on issues of abortion and contraception to be Catholic.”

Let’s see, to be Catholic, do you need to believe in the Trinity? Do you need to believe in the Real Presence? Do you need to believe in the Resurrection? Do you even need to believe in God???

And which other of the Ten Commandments (besides the Fifth) are also optional?
 
The article doesn’t mention that the organization has no members. I also note that they say she upsets “Conservative catholics”, I would disagree with the labeling of faithful cathoics as conservative.

I also notice that when it comes to labeling they call the Ford Foundation a “Secular” institution, not "“Liberal”.

Typical New York Times Slanted editorial.

Good ridance Kissling.
 
…Oh…and they failed to mention that she sent a letter of support to the two Anti-catholics…sorry…Anti Christian women that worked for John Edwards.
 
Michael_C said:
The article doesn’t mention that the organization has no members. I also note that they say she upsets “Conservative catholics”, I would disagree with the labeling of faithful cathoics as conservative.
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Exactly. Sure, call it conservative to agree with 2000 years of unchanged Church doctrine. I call it being “Catholic.”
 
The New York Times may have given her a nice send-off, but she will be in for a not-so-nice welcome in the afterlife if she does not repent. Pray for her. Catholics for a Free Choice…the very idea of such a group is an insult to all things good and decent.
 
Ding dong the witch is dead. Does she have a replacement lined up or were they aborted by her efforts?
 
If she disagrees with the church on so many issues, then why doesn’t she leave and find one that suits her “moral” convictions?

It really amazes me how arrogant and ignorant these dissenting organizations are. The very name of this organizations is redundant if you think about it. God already gave us free will. Catholics (and just about anybody) can use contraception, have abortions, practice homosexual lifestyles if they so please.

A few years ago I was walking in downtown DC and there was a poster in a metro stop with a man and a woman cuddling in bed. It said “Good Catholics Use Condoms.” I was absolutely livid.
 
StratusRose said:
If she disagrees with the church on so many issues, then why doesn’t she leave and find one that suits her “moral” convictions?
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Because she is “Catholic” to the extent she sees it as her mission to change the “corruption” from within the Church, in the same sense that someone who hates America and most of her values would be better suited to live in Europe, but stays as part of their “duty” of ending “corruption,” and calls themself an American.

I’ll appropriately repeat what I said in the original post : )

I am immediately reminded of the words Fr. Corapi spoke this past weekend in Seattle, about the motto of Call to Action and dissenting groups of their league. He said, “We are Church to the degree that we are in line with the Church. Not when we think we’re more Catholic than the Pope.”
 
I was happy to learn here that she has retired. I hope that she is the main driving force for this organziation, and that now it will disappear. Since as she once said, this is not a membership organization, there may not be people in place to continue it.
 
StratusRose said:
A few years ago I was walking in downtown DC and there was a poster in a metro stop with a man and a woman cuddling in bed. It said “Good Catholics Use Condoms.” I was absolutely livid.
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My girlfriend, when she went to WYD in Germany, she saw the same poster in a metro train. She tore it down and tossed it in the garbage, knowing thousands of Catholics would be subject to the heresy and sin the poster promoted!
 
Vianney said:
My girlfriend, when she went to WYD in Germany, she saw the same poster in a metro train. She tore it down and tossed it in the garbage, knowing thousands of Catholics would be subject to the heresy and sin the poster promoted!
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Good for her! 🙂
 
dafalax said:
Ding dong the witch is dead. Does she have a replacement lined up or were they aborted by her efforts?
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Pax tecum!

That reminds me of a quote from Janet Folger. She was speaking about NOW and NARAL and she said, “These are the only organizations I know of that advocate killing their potential members.” That is quite true for all pro-abortion organizations, including Heretics for a Free Choice.

In Christ,
Rand
 
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