Catholics for Ron Paul Coalition

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I would vote for him if he got the republcian nomination

How many pro-life judges were apointed to the USc by a democrat?
How many prolife judges on the USC were appointed by Republican presidents? Scalia, Thomas, Roberts, Allito…none of these will overturn the essence of RvW…the denial of personhood. If they were recognized as persons, the 14th Amendment would require the states to provide them equal protection of the laws. That is the only thing that will protect them ultimately. Judy Brown of American Life League strongly criticized Scalia over this point. Scalia’s dissenting opinion in PP v Casey was that the Constitution doesn’t require the states to permit abortion or to restrict abortion. Thomas concurred with Scalia. So they agree with Blackmun’s majority opinion in Roe that the unborn aren’t persons as that term is used in the 14th Amendment. This is pro-life?
 
How many prolife judges on the USC were appointed by Republican presidents? Scalia, Thomas, Roberts, Allito…none of these will overturn the essence of RvW…the denial of personhood. If they were recognized as persons, the 14th Amendment would require the states to provide them equal protection of the laws. That is the only thing that will protect them ultimately. Judy Brown of American Life League strongly criticized Scalia over this point. Scalia’s dissenting opinion in PP v Casey was that the Constitution doesn’t require the states to permit abortion or to restrict abortion. Thomas concurred with Scalia. So they agree with Blackmun’s majority opinion in Roe that the unborn aren’t persons as that term is used in the 14th Amendment. This is pro-life?
It is likely that about 2/3s of the States would outlaw abortion the moment Roe V Wade is overturned. That will save countless lives regardless of how many other States still allow it. we can not let the perfect be the enemy of the possible…

BTW-the second part of the question was how many pro-life Jusitces were appointed by a democrat President? we are constantly told is no reason to vote for a Republican president because some Republican presidents have appointed pro-abortion justices while totally ignoring the fact that there is absolutely no chance Democrat president will appoint a pro-life justice. as always with those who try to rationalize being pro-life but supporting pro-abortion candidates they demand absolute perfection from Republicans and lipservice from Democrats.
 
It is likely that about 2/3s of the States would outlaw abortion the moment Roe V Wade is overturned. That will save countless lives regardless of how many other States still allow it. we can not let the perfect be the enemy of the possible…
I hope you’re right but what makes you think it will be overturned by Republican appointees to the SC? Why should the unborn be left to the whims of state law when the 14th Amendment requires their equal protection? The point of that Amendment after the Civil War was to stop certain states from denying equal protection of the laws to blacks. The authors of the Amendment could have but didn’t use the narrow term “black person”, instead they used the broader term “any person”…requiring states to provide equal protection of the laws to any person in their jurisdictions.
BTW-the second part of the question was how many pro-life Jusitces were appointed by a democrat President? we are constantly told is no reason to vote for a Republican president because some Republican presidents have appointed pro-abortion justices while totally ignoring the fact that there is absolutely no chance Democrat president will appoint a pro-life justice. as always with those who try to rationalize being pro-life but supporting pro-abortion candidates they demand absolute perfection from Republicans and lipservice from Democrats.
The Dems have been abundantly clear (and honest) about their evil intent to keep abortion going. Criticism of GOP lipservice on abortion does not equate to support for pro-abortion candidates.
 
It won’t be Ron Paul. How about answering the question? **Who do you want choosing the next supreme court justice? the pro-abortion Obama, or the GOP nominee? **

Ishii
Exac tly. Particularly important as it is likely to be a pro-abort judge stepping down
 
Other issues, such as his unelectability. But voting for him in the primaries is fine, as long as Catholics vote for the most electable pro-life candidate in the general (which will be the GOP nominee).

Ishii
Assuming the GOP nominee is a pro-life candidate. No sure thing there.
 
As far as Ron Paul goes, there are some of his ideas which don’t reconcile completely with Church Teaching, not surprising since he’s not Catholic.

That being said, I find him FAR better than any of the others in the GOP field. He’ll be getting my vote and my money in the primaries. If doesn’t get the nomination, he may still get my vote in the general election, depending on who the nominee is. But we’ll cross that bridge when we get to it.

A larger question is what does it mean to be pro-life. Lets look at Rick Santorum. It’s hard to find “anti-life” votes he took on the Senate floor, so is he pro-life? He certainly claims, so, but I would strongly disagree. Why? Well he campaigned for avowed pro-abortionist Arlen Specter. Why would he do that? Because both of them had a ( R ) after their name at the time. That is the problem with almost all the nominees. They are Republicans first, and everything else, including pro-life second. I don’t agree with Paul on everything, but I think he is sincere in his beliefs. If he wanted to get ahead in the political machine he would not act the way he does. He’d play nice, keep his mouth shut, and wait his turn like the other guys. Ironically, this very attribute which makes me want to vote for him, makes him “unelectable” in the eyes of many others. Our society is in a bad place, when you are unelectable unless you are a manufacture machine politician.

Pax and God Bless.
 
Vote for Ron Paul, take away votes from the Republican nominee, help Obama win re-election, then Obama can give us two more pro-abortion supreme court justices guarenteeing abortion on demand for another 40 years. Good job guys!

Ishii
Ron Paul wants to BE the Republican nominee. He only ran 3rd Party in 1988.

As for some of the other comments on here, sure, there is no guarantee that a Republican will appoint a pro-life justice, but there is no chance that a Democrat would appoint a pro-life justice.

If I’m betting on a race between a sick horse and a dead horse, my money’s on the sick horse.
 
If I’m betting on a race between a sick horse and a dead horse, my money’s on the sick horse.
Unfortunately, your choices for “Best Horse” seem to be between a donkey and a zebra.
 
im starting to get the feeling that this country is run by someone or something someplace else
jesse ventura might be right, they are all in cahoots with each other !!!

but do like ron paul but he will never get in , because of above
 
im starting to get the feeling that this country is run by someone or something someplace else
jesse ventura might be right, they are all in cahoots with each other !!!

but do like ron paul but he will never get in , because of above
he will never get in because he offers simplistic solutions to complex problems & will never garner more than single-digit support. it’s not a matter of the conspiracy. It’s a matter of un-electability
 
I hope you’re right but what makes you think it will be overturned by Republican appointees to the SC? Why should the unborn be left to the whims of state law when the 14th Amendment requires their equal protection? The point of that Amendment after the Civil War was to stop certain states from denying equal protection of the laws to blacks. The authors of the Amendment could have but didn’t use the narrow term “black person”, instead they used the broader term “any person”…requiring states to provide equal protection of the laws to any person in their jurisdictions.
There is no way that any person who honestly reads the Constitution in the context of when the 14th Amendment was written would come to the conclusion that personhood included unborn children. That was clearly not the intent of the equal protection clause. Scalia is stating the correct constitutional law position.

We should actively be working to amend the Constitution to protect the rights of the unborn, but it’s fantasy to read into the Constitution what we want to see.

We know that the four conservative Catholic members of the Supreme Court, Alito, Thomas, Scalia, and Roberts will probably take the correct constitutional position regarding abortion. That is, abortion is not in the constitution, and should be left to the states. If such a view were to become the law of the land, we would expect many states to outlaw abortion completely, and the rest of the states would probably pass laws greatly restricting abortions.

If the Court is given a chance to revisit Roe v. Wade, it will probably only be given such a chance if a Republican appoints a Justice (we only need one more) who holds the correct constitutional view on the matter. Indeed, there is a much greater chance that these men will strike it down than relying on the Obama/Clinton appointments, who are obviously pro-death and follow an unserious and activist approach to constitutional interpretation.

In sum: electing a Republican president is the only plausible way to overturn Roe v. Wade and thus to give greater legal rights to the unborn.

As for Ron Paul, he is unelectable. The various media have been quite easy on him because they know he is on the fringe and would never threaten Obama. Furthermore, they like his positions on drugs and foreign policy. He’s basically only an interesting novelty who will be completely dismantled in the primary. Should he ever reach the general election (which is highly unlikely), he would be beaten by a landslide, especially when the media starts to harp on his loony positions, ties to white supremacists, and conspiracy theories.
 
The whole argument of “personhood” is pinko philosophical jabberwocky.
Pinko scum have reverted to this pathetic argument. They have reached a point where their assumption on scientific authority holds absolutely no ground (not that it ever really did), so they delve into the world of “philosophy” where anything is “right” because ya spew enough verbal manure to make it seem so. There are vulgar terms to describe this sort of argument, the initials = B.S.

Philosophy is not a science it is just an unfounded opinion.

BIOLOGICAL FACT = Human beings are distinct and alive at conception.

Thats all folks!
 
As for Ron Paul, I live in his district. I would hate to lose him as my representative but there is very little in his positions that I disagree with.
He has already announced he is not running for Congress this year so he can put his efforts into his presidential bid. He will have my vote, as he always has.

As to those here who wish to use euphemisms and rhetoric to downplay the informed opinions of others, do you not understand what a poll is? Do you not accept the right of others to their opinions in a democracy? I am sick of politicians and political positions predicated upon maintaining the status quo. No one is unelectable if they get enough votes. How many unelectable people are now in Congress? I was a Republican all my life until two years ago. They no longer represent my views and I wear that moniker no longer.
 
No one is unelectable if they get enough votes.
In theory, sure. In practice Ron Paul is unelectable right now, in that he cannot get enough votes, not realistically.

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In theory, sure. In practice Ron Paul is unelectable right now, in that he cannot get enough votes, not realistically.
That is an opinion, one supported by a chart from 2008, that shows no one electable, except McCain, who was actually not elected. It matters not one whit to me. I am voting for the man.
 
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